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Topic: Larger Anchor?

Posted By: G8WVW
Subject: Larger Anchor?
Date Posted: 01 July 2020 at 07:17

Hi,

We are thinking of upgrading our 20Kg Delta for something bigger.

Wonder what other owners have replaced the standard anchor with and how big we can go without modifying the roller mechanism.

Many thanks,

Ian & Andrea

SV-Gabrielle

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Andrea & Ian
Aboard SV Gabrielle (H445 #164)
Portishead, SW England.

Replies:

Posted By: Semihh
Date Posted: 10 July 2020 at 13:17

Because of some problems with it I replaced 20kg with a 27kg Ultra anchor. Mechanism has no problem. But, you can’t insert the anchor stabilizer pin to the hole in larger anchor. This is a Hanse458

Posted By: Ian Coverdale
Date Posted: 14 July 2020 at 01:27

Smashing, thank you.

Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 27 July 2020 at 15:48

I also replaced the 20 kg Delta with a 27kg Ultra -- a very good solution -- the only 'disadvantage' of the Ultra is that it tends to slip over weed where the Delta finds a way to dig in. As weed usually is not a good place anyway I don't think this has real importance.

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alain
H445 #26

Posted By: Deep River
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 12:34

Hi Semih ,

I am from Izmir ,

I am thinking to replace Delta with Ultra 21 kg , which I have from my previous boat, Hanse has a 21 kg ultra anchor option for 455 ,the bigger is better of course but I think there is a space problem. did you have any problems with 27 kg in case if it hits the bow etc.?

Posted By: Black Diamond
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 17:31

I know this may seem a dumb question, but are you using all chain, chain/rope, or mostly nylon?

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Rick
S/V Black Diamond
Hanse 575 Build #192, Hull# 161
Newport, RI

Posted By: Deep River
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 21:03

No, I think it is a good question . I am using all chain 10mm and total 100 meters. I think chain has enough weight to hold the boat . My ex boat was a motorboat Azimut 42 , was equipped with 21 kg Ultra anchor , 10 mm, 80 meters all chain. I never had a anchoring problem. But this boat is new to me and I have no idea.

Posted By: G8WVW
Date Posted: 07 February 2021 at 21:53

We've still not decided which way to go with this yet.

Our research found this guy on Youtube ... https://youtu.be/ua21k2abK1Q" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/ua21k2abK1Q

Thoroughly interesting. Independent testing that suggests some big-name high performance anchors don't quite match their reputation and the standard Lewmar Delta actually performs okay.

Maybe we just need a a heavier Delta which is half the price of the 'high performance' alternatives.

Any thoughts?

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Andrea & Ian
Aboard SV Gabrielle (H445 #164)
Portishead, SW England.

Posted By: S&J
Date Posted: 07 February 2021 at 22:32

What about the new Epsilon? This is Lewmar's answer to the next-gen anchors. It is reasonably priced and has the same shank as the Delta so will fit the bow rollers. Roll bar is optional.

A 20kg costs around £290 but not available for a month or two so no real world tests yet.

I found the Delta useless in weed and not much better in shingle but these are tough for most anchors. Excellent holding in all types of mud and ok on sand.

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H458 #159 Primal Mediterranean cruising

Posted By: Deep River
Date Posted: 07 February 2021 at 23:02

Hi ,

Is it only the anchor holding the boat or together with the chain? All the new generation anchors are designed to work with chain because they need certain angle to hold the sea bed. I am confused with the anchor test video.

At 10 meters of depth I leave at least 50 to 60 meters of chain ( 10 mm ), which weighs almost 120 to 130 kg . At least the 10 meters of it lying in the sea bed so the anchor chain side can not rise up.

I always try to stay away from weed.

Thank you everyone who comments .

Stay healthy .

Posted By: Black Diamond
Date Posted: 07 February 2021 at 23:19

Asking about anchors is like asking about favorite colors... Although everyone will argue brands, no one I know of will argue against heavier holding better than lighter.

We have a 45kg Ultra stainless with 100M of stainless chain and have been happy with it in up to 30kts with mud for holding ground. Beyond that, I'd want two anchors out. I have a Fortress in the bow locker with 50' of chain and 200' of line for those occasions. I usually go with 5-1 even with chain.

If I had a 2 roller bow fitting, I'd go with the 66lb Bruce and the Ultra. They nest well on the bow and both are capable of holding the boat in a blow alone.

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Rick
S/V Black Diamond
Hanse 575 Build #192, Hull# 161
Newport, RI

Posted By: Gale Force
Date Posted: 08 February 2021 at 09:47

For some obscure reason Hanse don't seem to deem it necessary to have two anchors on board as they only supply the means for one.I am not aware that it is even an option for the ability to have two.Taking this into account I would be very interested to know your process of deploying and retrieving the 2nd anchor and the securing of the boat to the rode,chain or otherwise.

You might recall my earlier post of being in the position of losing my 4yr old stainless anchor and chain(as supplied) as a link snapped.I am well converted to having two anchors on board but have not had the opportunity to do it as yet.

Best regards

Duncan