Sailing performance
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Topic: Sailing performance
Posted By: angorsan
Subject: Sailing performance
Date Posted: 26 January 2025 at 20:55
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Hi everyone. It is still a few months till I step on my boat, but in preparation I would like to ask some questions about sailing performance. 1) Imagine you have both self-tacker and reacher on the second forestay on your boat. Now, you are about to enter the regatta where only self-tacker is allowed. What would you do to with the reacher: Take it down to be able to point upwind better or keep it furled since its bad influence on the airflow for jib is minimal? ( Iasked it in another thread, but maybe better to have all in one place). 2) Self tacking jib in light air going upwind - has anyone moved it further out with a block and extra sheet to get better airflow? Did it help in any noticable way? Thanks in advance for your comments!
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Posted By: Lhsrris218
Date Posted: 27 January 2025 at 18:38
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I think leaving it up is a good option. I would go with a Genoa for racing and not the self tacker. Not sure why you would want the sail out more - keep it sheeted tight for upwind sailing.
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Posted By: angorsan
Date Posted: 27 January 2025 at 19:10
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Well, perhaps I can use it, but the handicap would level the potential advantage. It is hard to tell if this handicap would favor me or not - hence the question ;) In regards to moving the sail out more - I got the idea from this video: https://youtu.be/roROlZDfoXE?t=63" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/roROlZDfoXE?t=63
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Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 27 January 2025 at 20:28
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So the video reference is for REACHING, not close hauled upwind. I have used this option many times and it is very effective. ------------- Leon / ARCADIA 2018 Hanse 588 Sag Harbor, NY |
Posted By: angorsan
Date Posted: 27 January 2025 at 20:35
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Indeed, for "close hauled" it would be a no go. Sorry, I am more used to Dutch points of sail names, sailing English is my second language
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Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 28 January 2025 at 20:39
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The trick is to lead the new sheet very much forward. These self tacking sails have a very low clew, so the sheeting angle needs to be downward in order to prevent twist. Start with a location in line with the jib traveler. Once I had the best location, I fixed a heavy pad eye to take the turning block. ------------- Leon / ARCADIA 2018 Hanse 588 Sag Harbor, NY |
Posted By: Lhsrris218
Date Posted: 28 January 2025 at 21:26
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Posted By: angorsan
Date Posted: 29 January 2025 at 07:57
On 460 there are 2 padeyes just in line with the st. jib traveler, I think they should do the trick just fine.
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Posted By: Martin&Rene
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 12:05
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Angorsan I consider controlling the twist of the jib downwind is vital. We sail 2 up in an area with gusty and variable wind conditions, so it is not often we get out cruising chute out. I have been telling Hanse sales people for years that they should put something on the yachts so people can set up a barber hauler system. I think that pad-eye you mention is a good starter. This thread shows how I set a barber hauler on the jib and we use this all the time. Almost every time we do do a major adjustment of the jib sheet, I will adjust the barber hauler at the same time. https://www.myhanse.com/topic10476_post117478.html#117478" rel="nofollow - https://www.myhanse.com/topic10476_post117478.html#117478 ------------- Martin&Rene Hanse 341 Dipper Wheel steering, 3 cabin layout, normally based in Scotland |
Posted By: jtjk
Date Posted: 18 February 2025 at 12:33
Btw, what was your order number? Do you know your hull number already? When did your order and what is scheduled date? I was just placing an order
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angorsan wrote:Posted By: angorsan
Date Posted: 19 February 2025 at 08:03
Hi! Congratulations! My boat left the factory a week ago and is now undergoing the launch preparations (antifouling, rigging, etc.) , so I do have the hull number  The order number is #275, it was placed in Dec 2023 with the scheduled production end March 2025, but it was in fact finished mid Jan 2025. To my knowledge the lead time for 460s is now way less, as most of the 8 series boats are no longer produced, making room for the new models.
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Posted By: PiratePete
Date Posted: 15 February 2026 at 04:32
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we have sailed (raced?) the boat to windward with and without the furled reacher in place and could not determine anything different i.e. faster with the reacher in its sailbag below deck and not on its forestay. About two year ago just as cruisers with a jib and a reacher each on a hard forestay were coming to the cruise/racer fleet modified it's one headsail rule to allow use of both provided only one was open at the time. So, in racing, furl the jib first before unfurling the reacher. |