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Topic: Deck organiser
Posted By: PabloPicasso
Subject: Deck organiser
Date Posted: 27 June 2025 at 08:37
The outboard end of starboard side deck organiser (turns halyard direction between  mast base and clutches)  has bent upwards a bit.

Seems not strong enough, or perhaps the direction of pull not correct?

Anyone had a similar problem, and how did you solve it? 



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Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 27 June 2025 at 09:17
Picture?

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Posted By: Bitbaltic
Date Posted: 29 June 2025 at 19:04
If it’s the original fitting, they went through a very tight right angle and maybe this is the cause of a fatigue failure over the years.

My rigger replaced the original deck tidys with new units at a much better angle and this is probably the thing to do, sealing up the damage associated with the lifted fitting first.

Pic shows both the old original tidys, which are not now used, and their relocated replacements on the port side of the boat. Same arrangement on starboard. 





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Posted By: Mergus
Date Posted: 29 June 2025 at 19:09
Hi, have been myself wondering the same that looks like really poor design to make the 90 degree turns as in the originals. Do you know how your rigger installed those new tidys? Just taking indoor roof off and putting some washers below the bolts? Or any other reinforcement needed?


Posted By: PabloPicasso
Date Posted: 29 June 2025 at 20:42
That looks like the best approach.
Great plan. 

Have you got 5 clutches by each halyard winch too? 


Posted By: Bitbaltic
Date Posted: 29 June 2025 at 20:49
Yes we added extra clutches to the original ?spinlock blocks on each side. Everything comes back through it’s own clutch.

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Posted By: Bitbaltic
Date Posted: 29 June 2025 at 20:50
Re strengthening- dunno, the work was done 12 years ago! Im sure there it will either be bolts and washers or perhaps a backing plate.

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Posted By: sailingfree
Date Posted: 01 July 2025 at 11:02
Hi,

Interesting that the rigger moved the turning blocks further back. The original location has aluminium plates embedded in the deck to take the load. 
I replaced the original blocks with new ones mounted on some teak blocks to get a better lead and reduce the friction where the lines rubbed on the deck between the blocks and the winches. These have been trouble free now for 17 years. 

Somewhere there is a post with the positions of the in-deck reinforcement plates.



Posted By: PabloPicasso
Date Posted: 06 July 2025 at 09:57
Interesting solution.
Did you install 5 clutches too?



Posted By: sailingfree
Date Posted: 06 July 2025 at 20:45
Hi yes I’ve got 5 clutches each side. 
Portside I’ve got two reef lines, outhaul, spinnaker halyard and pole uphaul. Starboard I’ve got main and jib halyards, topping lift, vang and pole downhaul. 


Posted By: PabloPicasso
Date Posted: 29 July 2025 at 16:20
Hi again.

I have a couple of questions about your spinlock 6 sheave deck organiser
Are the sheaves 25mm or 38mm?
Does the organiser follownthe curve of the deck, or is it flay at that location?

I am looking to copy what you have done, it looks justvperfect.  I want to ensure I order the correct parts. 

Many thanks


Posted By: sailingfree
Date Posted: 29 July 2025 at 16:30
Hi, just a quick note about the 6 sheave organiser moved aft from the original location. The deck there is not solid but balsa cored, so I would suggest drilling oversized holes, filling them with thickened epoxy the drilling smaller holes for the mounting bolts. There is a chance of getting water into the core otherwise and that causes all sorts of other problems. See my other post about repairing my deck where the deck plugs are. Just my 2c worth.


Posted By: Bitbaltic
Date Posted: 03 August 2025 at 16:01
Hi, apologies I’ve only just seen this post. I don’t know- I will measure them next time I’m at the boat.

I think sailingfree’s idea about protecting the core by creating an epoxy ‘sheath’ sounds sensible. We have had no issues with water penetration or anything else since these sheaves were fitted in 2013, but I didn’t fit them so exactly what was done in terms of reinforcement or water tightness of the core I couldn’t say.

What is for sure is there is less stress and strain on sheaves in this location than there is on the originals going through a right angle at the mast foot.


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Posted By: PabloPicasso
Date Posted: 03 August 2025 at 16:33
I think I'm okay to drill, fill, a d seal deck fittings

I guess my question was more about the otganiser itself. 
6 sheaves is quite long. Does the organiser curve wirh the deck at all? 


Posted By: Bitbaltic
Date Posted: 03 August 2025 at 17:32
Sorry to say I don’t know for sure. It’s not mounted on any kind of block though, so if the deck there is curved, I suppose it curves with it. But not sure without looking next time I’m at the boat.

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