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Topic: SHAFT COUPLING
Posted By: Wayne's World
Subject: SHAFT COUPLING
Date Posted: 23 December 2025 at 20:28
Morning all and hope you all have a happy Xmas and great NY. I want to replace the shaft coupling and thrust bearing on our 575, 2014 model. The Hanse shop no longer lists a replacement. They do have a coupling shown for the 588 but not for the 575 and don't say/know if this will be a simple fit to the 575. Does anyone know the part number for the coupling? I think it is a Centa CF-AGM 50-3 but want to get a confirmation of this if possible.   



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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Pacific until the end of 2026.



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Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 24 December 2025 at 00:03
I’m pretty sure Hanse used that same Centa model since the 545. My neighbor has a 2014 575 with the same one (badly rusted from a leaking panda pump!). Mine is pretty clean. I noticed a grease nipple on the shaft side of it but I haven’t used it yet. I’m hoping to keep mine serviceable since replacing will be a pain. Curious what yours is experiencing. 

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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: Pzucchel
Date Posted: 25 December 2025 at 07:32
Hi Wayne,

why do you want to replace it? I am asking since I feel I am completely ignorant about this part: I watch it, I don't see anything , I assume it is all OK...like I did with the steering chains, up to the moment i had a problem.

how to check it ? verify that there is no corrosion where i can't see?greasing?




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Hanse588#55


Posted By: Wayne's World
Date Posted: 26 December 2025 at 00:53
Our coupling has a lot of rust on it and the thrust bearing carrier due to the seawater leaking from the Fischer Panda generator. One of the worm drive clamps on the PSS shaft seal had broken (almost impossible to put a new one on). I have replaced the rubber components of the coupling in early 2024 after they started to fall apart. A engineer friend who had a Hanse 531 suggested to replace the complete coupling and thrust bearing the shaft may need to be cut because it may be impossible to get the taper ring off the shaft end. So I have decided I would replace the shaft, PSS seal and the Cutless bearing (available as a "set" from the Hanse bootshop) and the complete coupling and thrust bearing.  The access it terrible put we will need to find a way around this. When I had the rubber components replaced they cut the horizontal mounting bolts off with an angle grinder along with part of the rubber part. They were then able to remove the coupling components (except the taper ring). At that stage we didn't try to remove the taper ring. The Volvo Penta owners instruction manual states you should grease the shaft where it enters the PSS seal. The PSS seal information states the seal should be replaced every 5 years. The PSS seal has never leaked. Our boat is coming up to 12 year old and travelled about 40,000nm. So I guess it is time to replace components on the shaft line. We are in Fiji so I wanted to have all the parts here available in case they were needed. If it seems like too big a job for the yard in Fiji I will wait until we get to Aust in late 2026. But at least I will have all the required parts onboard. I think the 588 coupling is different to the 575 but I guess the service requirements are similar. I think your coupling is a Cardan coupling available from Hanse  - Product number: TMP0609. Once we get the job done I will put up some images and comments on the forum. 

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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Pacific until the end of 2026.


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 26 December 2025 at 02:12
Thanks for the info Wayne and do keep us posted on your progress. I can say that the 588 in the early years including mine from 2018 has the same Centa unit as yours. 

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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: Wayne's World
Date Posted: 26 December 2025 at 06:15
Leon,

That makes it interesting that the Hanse shop not longer supplies our coupling although it is in 2018 boats. They didn't say the Cardan coupling would fit or was a drop-in exchange or offer any input except - here is the Centa email contact. Maybe the replacement will go better than I expect - hope so.  


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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Pacific until the end of 2026.


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 27 December 2025 at 01:42
Wayne, I just took a look at the “Cardan” shaft coupling on Boatoon.  I can’t tell who the manufacturer is but I’m guessing that they switched vendor on that part sometime after my build. However, it looks like it would be a drop in replacement and would make sense in that it would likely need to fit the existing hull configuration. 

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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 27 December 2025 at 01:51
Have you tried Centa directly. Maybe they can steer you to a distributor. I believe you have the correct part number. The only options on that part would be for a 45 mm shaft and the
TB-3 bearing.

+49-2129-912-0 


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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: Pzucchel
Date Posted: 27 December 2025 at 05:24
I tried hard to UNDERSTAND what you guys are talking about ...this is a marvelous piece of mechanics that most people (I mean : me) don't actually  understand ...

for the guidance of us mortals , the starting point is here:

https://www.pyiinc.com/downloads/pss-shaft-seal/pss-type-a-pro-seal-instructions.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.pyiinc.com/downloads/pss-shaft-seal/pss-type-a-pro-seal-instructions.pdf

and ŕ very nice description here:

https://marinehowto.com/installing-a-pss-shaft-seal/" rel="nofollow - https://marinehowto.com/installing-a-pss-shaft-seal/


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Hanse588#55


Posted By: Gale Force
Date Posted: 27 December 2025 at 06:24
Hi
With all the situation with my re engine I sed an R&D shaft coupler and a Sureseal Tides marine Shaft Seal.Maybe worth looking into if you are having difficulty with other brands

Wishing you all Happy Sailing

Duncan


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 27 December 2025 at 14:59
Hi Piero. Looks like this. Just aft of the transmission. Provides a flexible connection for the engine and also a thrust bearing for the shaft. The forward force of the shaft acts rigidly and directly to the hull and NOT to the engine as in conventional installations. 



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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 27 December 2025 at 15:05
The thrust bearing is on the far left in the photo and bolts directly to the hull. The flexible coupling are the two rubber rings on the right which transmit the rotation from the transmission. Take a look next time you’re there. Check for cracks in the rubber. Check for rust, wear or movement where the shaft enters the thrust bearing. 

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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: Pzucchel
Date Posted: 27 December 2025 at 15:06
thank you leon! i admit i have seen it and "cleaned it"...but what is much more difficult to see is the pss. Is the pss between the device you show and the hull, right? hidden by the plastic box just above, that i guess is the water container required to lubrificate it? i find it surprising that of all the devices installed on the boat there is no mention neither in the manual nor in the documents provided by hanse digitally... i discover now the 5 years maintenance requirement suggested by the manufacturer...

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Hanse588#55


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 27 December 2025 at 16:59
Yes. Access and maintenance on both of those items, the PSS and the Centa coupling, is very difficult. So far I’ve been lucky !  I’m thinking removal of the large plastic water muffler is the first step for access. 

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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: Pzucchel
Date Posted: 18 March 2026 at 14:38
just one more comment: i realised that - while i can access quite easily the coupling - i can't even SEE the PSS!! i can barely touch it with a finger...admittedly I have the generator installed, that entered by " cutting" the boat below the companionway - so i can't even remove the plastic water muffler. it is literally " a boat in a bottle "If i want to maintain the pss i am obliged in cutting the companionway, extract the generator, extract the muffler... ouff, this is bad design and bad planning on my side. i wish that the manual had any reference to it, i could have anticipated this problem...

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Hanse588#55


Posted By: Arcadia
Date Posted: 18 March 2026 at 21:00
I wonder if there is a way to the PSS through one of the aft cabins. In the space below the berths there may be a wood panel that can be cut out. 

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Leon / ARCADIA
2018 Hanse 588
Sag Harbor, NY


Posted By: Pzucchel
Date Posted: 18 March 2026 at 21:31
Originally posted by Arcadia Arcadia wrote:

I wonder if there is a way to the PSS through one of the aft cabins. In the space below the berths there may be a wood panel that can be cut out. 

this is a smart idea . in the 588 there are no holes in the wood - but it's probably easier to remove the panels than trying to enter from the engine room side ....i will try it, thanks Leon for the idea.




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Hanse588#55


Posted By: Wayne's World
Date Posted: 19 March 2026 at 00:43
I haven't looked in detail yet but I think I will need to cut an access from below the bunk through the inboard wall to hopefully access the PSS seal. I have booked a haulout at the end of April so we will soon find out how easy or difficult it is to get access to this area. 

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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Pacific until the end of 2026.


Posted By: Pzucchel
Date Posted: 19 March 2026 at 12:23
Originally posted by Wayne's World Wayne's World wrote:

I haven't looked in detail yet but I think I will need to cut an access from below the bunk through the inboard wall to hopefully access the PSS seal. I have booked a haulout at the end of April so we will soon find out how easy or difficult it is to get access to this area. 

i completely agree. An opening in the wood - but as low as possible. what is the expected maintenance? admittedly, i am still thinking to what "replace the bellow every 6 years" means: if the bellow is coaxial to the propeller axis - does it mean to it remove the axis??? at least, we're not submarines...but all the rest is nearly unachievable in this very moment for me...

The PSS (Packless Sealing System) Shaft Seal (“PSS”) you are preparing to install is a through-hull fitting that protects against water from entering the boat where the shaft enters the hull, when properly installed and maintained. Make sure that you or your designated installer is a qualified professional, knowledgeable and skilled to install the PSS correctly, and that you have all the required tools and additional equipment on hand before beginning installation. • If removing the engine transmission for repair or if launching the boat without a transmission installed, then the shaft must be kept in place with a device that will secure the shaft with the PSS bellow in its normal “compressed mode”. • Install the PSS ONLY with the boat out of the water. • DO NOT USE oil, grease (petroleum products) or silicone products at any time during the installation. Use soap and water to lubricate the o-rings of the rotor when sliding it down the shaft. • Clean the seal area of your boat so you do not contaminate the seal surface with dirt, oil or other foreign matter. Do not damage or scratch the face of the carbon or the face of the stainless steel rotor during unpacking or while handling or installing the PSS. • There should be a total of four (4) set screws in the two holes of the rotor (2 sets screws in each hole). If you must move the stainless steel rotor, make sure to remove the top set screws in order to access the bottom two set screws. • Do not re-use the supplied cupped pointed set screws. If multiple tightening has flattened the cupped-point set screw, replace the affected screw with a new one. • There should be a total of four (4) hose clamps securing the bellows ends. These clamps should be replaced if they show any sign of corrosion. • Do not slide the aft bellow cuff too far down over the stern tube. The leading edge of the stern tube could cause damage to the inner ribs of the bellow and improperly limit the bellow movement and travel. • If fitting a vent line (boats under 12 knots), do not run a loop at the top end of the hose as this could promote a siphon. • If the boat sits idle for a long period of time (generally 3 months or more), it is necessary to move the carbon face back to allow a small amount of water to enter the boat. • As with any hose under the waterline, the PSS bellows must be inspected on a regular basis (i.e., no less than at least every 6 months under most circumstances) and checked for any signs of deterioration (cracks, splits, tears, brittleness, or other signs). Upon any sign of deterioration the bellow must be replaced. As preventive maintenance the bellow should be replaced no less than every 6 years on the Type A Seal, and 8 to 10 years on the PSS PRO Seals, regardless of its apparent condition. • Do not allow any petroleum-based liquid or corrosive material to come in contact with the PSS. Take care to ensure that this does not occur, for example, when performing any general maintenance, or winterizing the engine. • The shaft should be near centered and run parallel to the shaft log. • Do not use an ozone generator (e.g., air cleaner) in or around your boat. The extra ozone will speed up the deterioration of any rubber product, including the PSS bellow. • The bellows will need more frequent inspection and replacement in an environment where non-sealed batteries emit sulfuric acid vapors. Sulfuric acid vapors will accelerate deterioration of any rubber materials including the PSS bellows. • Do not use sealant to fit the bellow to the stern tube or the hose to hose barb. • Do not run dry. It is imperative that the mating faces of the stainless steel rotor and carbon stator receive adequate water flow to cool and lubricate the seal faces at all times. • Do not use the PSS SEAL on a submarine vehicle


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Hanse588#55


Posted By: Wayne's World
Date Posted: 20 March 2026 at 00:15
Piero,

It is my understanding that you need to at a minimum disconnect the shaft from the coupling and move it aft so the PSS seal can slide off the bow end of the shaft and once replaced then slide back along the shaft until it can clamp onto the log (where the shaft comes out of the hull). Once the seal is on, you would reconnect the shaft to the coupling. The other option is to completely remove the shaft, but this would, I think not be necessary just to replace the PSS seal. In my case I will probably replace the shaft, thrust bearing and carrier, cutlass bearing and the PSS seal all at once so the old shaft, PSS seal and cutlass bearing will all need to be removed. Fun and games to look forward to. It is an issue that the access is very poor even for routine maintenance let alone replacement. Very poor design. 


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Wayne W
Cruising, currently in the Pacific until the end of 2026.



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