411 - Tri sail

Tri sail

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Topic: Tri sail

Posted By: Jacky Black
Subject: Tri sail
Date Posted: 20 March 2008 at 10:33

Has anyone got a Tri sail for their 411? if so how do you rigg it? have you put an additional track on the mast? Does anyone have a reduntant sail we could borrow or buy?
Thanks
Jacky Black

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Jacky Black

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Posted By: samba
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 21:37

Jacky,

I was planning to buy a trysail for our 411. After a discussion with our sailmaker I decided not to buy one.

The reasons for this are:

I will put in a high 3rd reef with additional re-enforcements
Most likely you will have to take down sprayhoad when using the trysail

I do have a storm jib on a babystay.

Cheers,

Michiel

Posted By: panos
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 15:57

hi,

A trysail is a good idea if one is sailing in conditions that a second or even a third reef are needed,mainly for two reasons :

1) The trysail can be used even without a boom. Remember that in case the goosneck or the vang or the mainsail fails you are left without sail.

2) The reefs are reinforcing the sail at the wrong point and are distroing its shape (just look pictures of Norths 3DL sails ,where the reinforcments are obvious). Ok one reef can be tolarated, but three reefs?also if the top of the sail is made to withstand stormy conditions it must made from such a riggid material that will be useless in lighter wind.

Imho it is better to use a trysail over 32-35 Knots and to take one reef and depower the main by bending the mast under 32.

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Panos

Hanse 630e - selling her -

Posted By: samba
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 21:31

Jacky black,

You will have to put a seperate rail on the mast for the Try-sail.

Cheers,

Michiel

Posted By: Brad McMaster
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 22:26

Hi Guys,

Not a 411 owner but do have a trysail. Yep extra track required unless you have T slot cars on your main, but pretty sure you don't.

Another important point about for having a trysail is that the foot is cut high for the very good reason of allowing green water to pass under the sail but over the boom which is normally lowered and strapped to the deck. This should hopefully reduce your chances of a knock down in foul weather.

Hope that helps

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