new Hanse 445
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Topic: new Hanse 445
Posted By: ernol
Subject: new Hanse 445
Date Posted: 14 June 2010 at 06:20
Hi, The first Hanse of a new range will be launced i 2010 and 2011. The press info says, more speed, more space and more light. Erno   
Lengde:
13,40 m
Bredde:
4,38 m
Vekt:
11000 kg
Produksjonsland:
Tyskland
Produsent:
Hanse Yachts
Importør:
Fjord Boats
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Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 14 June 2010 at 07:15
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Looks nice, but 1 thing i do not like: 1. This vertikal window in the hull. Its the same on the 545. They look like forgotten fenders when the boat is sailing....... ------------- Blake 370 
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Posted By: Alain & Anne
Date Posted: 14 June 2010 at 08:26
nice of course But I don't like this type of cockpit management which needs a crew. The 430 system is much better as you can manage the whole boat from the companion way without having to move to the steering wheel as the boat is under pilot. When it is cold, dark and you need to take the 3rd reef I found it much better! Alain ------------- UHAMBO 430e#004 White hull-teck deck-Yanmar 55hp-long range cruising OCC Our blog: www.uhambo.fr |
Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 14 June 2010 at 11:23
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Dont make a statement before ever having seen the boat for real.
It is an impression.
I have also my doubts about several things , for instance the hull windows, I wonder if you can order it without?
We will see the boat on the hiswa in the nederlands in some time I supose then we will see how it is for real.
greetings Marcel
------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 14 June 2010 at 11:37
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Marcel,
I must admit it is a lovely shape but I also agree with PB. Also to put the details on here is to automatically expect discusion and statements. The impression is all we have to go on at the moment.
There would be little point in putting it on here and and not expect comments and views.
 Dave
------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp) 
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Posted By: ernol
Date Posted: 14 June 2010 at 14:58
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Hi,
Translate with Google.
The year 2010 and 2011 is a year of many major innovations in the selection of his models, according to the German shipyard. They are also promising models with surprising details and good sailing characteristics.
MORE livingspace. The yard emphasize that the new models will have even more living volume and they will sail even better and they will be a innovation when it comes Hanse-yard-art interior design. First is a new model named Hanse 445, and it should have 15% more living volume below deck than comparable boats. Likewise, the waterline length, a speed determining factor, be longer than the competition. MORE NEW DETAILS. Designe of the hull has the yard and designers Judel / Vrolijk designed from continuing Hanse 545 with its somewhat "retro"-style look with straight cabin sides and cabin front. Hanse 445 will have six large windows in the freeboard, which will provide views from the lounge and cabins. Four double cabins are a option, but one should be able to order also two double and one large is probably as an option. A large storage is placed in front of the front cabin, and at the other end of the boat will be a great swimingplatform. . The yard highlights that saildrive is attached far aft to give the boat better stering. The rigg has two salinger and "discontinious" rigging - that is, shrouds attached to the spreaders and not just run over them. The shipyard said that emphasis is put on better quality equipment and that it should be easy to get to all technical on board. |
Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 15 June 2010 at 06:22
| I wonder if the reference to "better quality equipment" means that the windows will stay in place and not leak? |
Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 15 June 2010 at 08:20
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So do I wonder.
The new model has 6 windows in the hull . If those fall of .....blub blub blub
 greetings Marcel ------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: 371-#235
Date Posted: 15 June 2010 at 19:25
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I agree about the vertical windows in the hull. Not necessary and also add to the possibility of them not adhering as has been the case with most of the ones installed topsides. I do notice that the new Oyster 625 has the same windows:
http://www.oystermarine.com/fleet/625/default.aspx - http://www.oystermarine.com/fleet/625/default.aspx
I wonder how they are fastening them.
Bob ------------- Bob 371-#235 "Blondie" |
Posted By: Hol2
Date Posted: 15 June 2010 at 21:14
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Dear friends ! It is a hard world to live in…. ! You use this forum to tell about all the bad thinks you have with your boats. We ( Dealers and the Yard) try to improve the boats and still have the good price. Then we show you the new models with all the improvements and then your old models seem to be the best in the world !!! Have you all forgotten the improvements that the new 2010 Hanse boats have !?? Let me highlight a couple. Stainless steel, warm water boiler, galvanic zink saver, better fittings for water and drain system, better shower pump, better mast, better furling system, new textiles, new blind systems and vinylester resin !! And the price is down with 10%….!! Sorry guys, but try to be more open for the new world. The windows in the hull have nothing to do with the problems on the 2008/2009 models upside windows, so they don not fall off. Bo Hold http://www.marineparken.dk/ - Hanse dealer in Denmark |
Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 15 June 2010 at 21:31
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Nice
Finally a dealer with a response!
Now only the aftersales departement from Hanse ........
Hope for the new owners that is also a imporvement , because the aftersales still is
 !Greetings Marcel ------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 17 June 2010 at 09:16
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Hi All,
On behalf of Hanse dealers I will take the opportunity to explain that the MyHanse site is here to give owners the opportunity to discuss and share ownership of a Hanse.
Although some dealers have the chance on occassion to flick through the forum and see what is being discussed, it is not a route to contact your supplying dealer to discuss aftersales.
If you need to contact your dealer with regard to aftersales please do it directly, as this is the only way to guarantee that the message has been received.
MyHanse was not designed for customers to contact dealers and vice versa. It is here for owners to enjoy each others experiences.
If a dealer occasionally makes a post it will be for the benefit of owners through some knowledge they have, which will be of assistance.
Keep up the good work with MyHanse posts that are beneficially to all owners.
Good Sailing
Hanse UK
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Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 17 June 2010 at 09:55
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What the h..ck! Two Hanse dealers joining in the discussions in the same thread! I'm goint to buy a lottery ticket!
Hats of tou you guys! I sure hope our Swedish dealers would show same interest and give some information now and then.
I think many of us would appreciate information about imporvements, known problems, new modells and lots of hints and tips how to improve, take care and handle our boats.
And yes, my old 370e (2009) is the best boat so far, with resin etc
Marco ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 17 June 2010 at 10:25
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Hi All,
Just to change the subject, I thought I would let you all know, that the sun is shining, the sky is blue and there is not a cloud to spoil the view, and it is NOT raining, so I am going sailing, on my lovely 301.
 Dave ------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 17 June 2010 at 10:44
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Unfortunately aftersales from Hanse is a problem in Holland till this moment. And despite all the trying I did I had to solve my problems myself and Hanse Yachts did not solve anything at all since Hetterschijt went bankrupt in Holland! So who is talking about aftersales , since I have my boat ( august 2006) I have problems wich have never been solved, not by Hetterschijt and not by Hanse yachts! And onfurtunately this is not only my experience but from many on this forum all over the World. This is the last I want to say about it and I hope Hanse Yachts it self will read this as well so they know what lives under the owners and new buyers and that is what it is all about. And Dave you are right the sun is shining and we all go sailing this weekend Greetings Marcel ------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: Eduard
Date Posted: 17 June 2010 at 12:05
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@ Yeoman:
Yes, myhanse.com is an asset for every Hanse owner.
Regards
BTW; is the MyHanse flag still under construction? ------------- Ed sy "Nimby" Hanse 342 #611 (2007); white hull, (one) wheel steering, Selden mast & boom, furlex 200S, deep draught, two cabins, traveller in cockpit, DSC VHF, inboard ap, B&G Zeus + Triton (2x) |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 19 August 2010 at 21:35
Posted By: Hol2
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:13
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Dear Alin I will try to answer some of your questions
Hanse 445 is a totally new design whit all the newest experiance the design team and JV has gained over the years.
It has a frame made of a special composite matriale that are stronger and lighter than a metal frame,
Today Hanse Yacht are using Vinylester in the outher layers to protect the hull against osmoses, more than 70% of the cleints dont want to pay the ekstra cost for a lighter full epoxy hull.
The Hanse 445 has a new light and stif rig whit the load on the outher sides of the hull, the jib/mainsail ratio is slightly changed to a bigger jib
that will give the boat more power in strong wind and big wawes
Sometimes this is a problem in Hanse 430 and 470 sailing whit selftacker jib. you are welcome to download the polar diagrame on my webside.
I hope this information can help you standing between too lovers.
Best Regards
Bo Hold
Marineparken.dk
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Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 10:39
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Dear Bo Many thanks for your info's! I looked after the polar diagrame on your website but could not find it -- can you please let me have the link? What do you think about the sailing performance of the 445 compaired to the 470 at moderate wind? Best regards -- Alain ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: Alain & Anne
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 11:56
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Bonjour Alain, Voici le lien: http://www.marineparken.dk/pdf/document_162_DK.pdf Alain ------------- UHAMBO 430e#004 White hull-teck deck-Yanmar 55hp-long range cruising OCC Our blog: www.uhambo.fr |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 13:35
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Hallo Alain Merci beaucoup! Alain ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: Balticcruiser
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 07:18
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I was expecting to see some real photos of the new 445 by now. After all the model was announced for the boat shows in both Orust and Amsterdam, but I guess the first boat was not ready in time to make it there. Will it be in Cannes or Southampton?
Any news, rumours?
/Balti
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Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 09:16
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Hi Balticcruiser The new 445 No. 1 exists! I have seen it in Amsterdam. Alain ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: Balticcruiser
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 12:13
But still not one single exterior photo available...
Did you take any pictures, Alain?
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alain wrote:Posted By: Hol2
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 16:39
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Balticcruiser
Try http://www.Marineparken.dk - www.Marineparken.dk
Regards
Bo Hold
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Posted By: Balticcruiser
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 18:33
Thanks Bo! So there is actually one launched. When will you have one in Scandinavia? Balti |
Posted By: Hol2
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 18:48
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Hi
Hanse 445#001 is after Holland going to Southamton
Hanse 445#002 is on route to Cannes and Genoa boatshows
We will have it on Hamburg Boatshow in the late Oktober
It has sold very good on the first show.
I try to get more photos ASAP
Best Regards
Bo Hold
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Posted By: Cogito
Date Posted: 19 September 2010 at 13:19
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Let's see what will happen with the after sale services ! Really poor until now ! It is mainly the quality control, that goes wrong. Hanse boats are all right but not finished. I've been staying for a couple of years at MYSC (Mediterranean Yacht Service Center) in le Canet en Roussillon (France), and I have been seeing and hearing so much incredible things that I think what seemed to be a nightmare with my own boat, is finally a pleasant dream beside what other owners had to go through!!! The answer is not to sale affordable boats but to sale finished and SAFE boats, and deliver the service due to the customers. ------------- Cogito ergo sum Hanse 400 #351 |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 11:54
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Hi everybody, I have sailed the 445 -- and orderd one. It's a very handy, fast and comfortable boat. I have placed the order at Trio Deniz in Istambul. I have a very good impression of their staff and facilities. The boat will be delivered to me in Istambul and I will stay in the area until every bug is hopefully detected and corrected. What needs some ideas is the storage room in the front of the boat. If you have to get something out of there, which is at the bottom with a lot of stuff above it -- in bad weather and rough sea.... Best regards - Alain P.S. Photos are now on the Hanse web site. ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: Henrik84
Date Posted: 26 November 2010 at 22:27
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I love this boat.
Sad that I only can dream about it ------------- S/Y LaRey Hanse 320 #430 Gothenburg, Sweden |
Posted By: Old Sailor
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 13:08
 I saw the new boat in Paris yesterday, SORRY, it looks cheap and cold.
Maybe it preforms well, but compared to the new Jeanau 439 and teh new Dufour 445, it is far behind. BUT the realy big surprise was teh new Beneteau Sense 43, what a boat    ------------- Old Sailor |
Posted By: Henrik84
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 13:41
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I don´t like the new Sense 43.
It just not look like a sailboat, more lika a motorsailer.
/Henrik ------------- S/Y LaRey Hanse 320 #430 Gothenburg, Sweden |
Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 14:54
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nothing more different than taste, or just having a different look on boats...
I like the 445 and totaly dislike the beneteau sense 43
greetings marcel ------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |