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Topic: Boom brake
Posted By: Flemming M
Subject: Boom brake
Date Posted: 15 September 2010 at 06:28

Have anyone some experience with boom brake and if, what model is the best too installed and use.



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Flemming M,
Hanse 350 - DEN 233/#357
Hansine - Danmark



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Posted By: AnnSea
Date Posted: 15 September 2010 at 22:58
I have a Wichard boom brake - it's lightweight and is highly effective. Wouldn't be without it.

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Tim



AnnSea 370e #418


Posted By: Flemming M
Date Posted: 16 September 2010 at 05:29
Thanks for answer. That is one of these I have consideret. And special the model fram Wichard.

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Flemming M,
Hanse 350 - DEN 233/#357
Hansine - Danmark


Posted By: Gran Onada
Date Posted: 16 September 2010 at 07:30
I have the Walder 203C, one of the best investment on the boat.

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Gran Onada IV - Hanse 350 #130


Posted By: Henrik84
Date Posted: 18 September 2010 at 12:14
I Have now bought Wichard boom-break.

/Henrik


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S/Y LaRey
Hanse 320 #430
Gothenburg, Sweden


Posted By: Gran Onada
Date Posted: 18 September 2010 at 16:38
According to WAlder Manufacurer is this:

To eliminate the dangers inherent when jibing, the WALDER® boombrake controls the horizontal and vertical movement of your boom – allowing it to sweep gunwale to gunwale with complete safety. 

More info here:

http://www.walderweb.com/walder_en.htm

It is not cheap, but I think is worth


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Gran Onada IV - Hanse 350 #130


Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 18 September 2010 at 18:22
Her is a foto of the new brake pedals in arrangement with the recent steering wheel........Wink




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Blake 370


Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 18 September 2010 at 18:40
Haha, but I think you will have to visit a musical instrument store rather than a chandlery to find those!

Johan



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Posted By: Flemming M
Date Posted: 19 September 2010 at 21:23
Jeps and the model is what I can see from Yamaha Smile.

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Flemming M,
Hanse 350 - DEN 233/#357
Hansine - Danmark


Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 20 September 2010 at 07:26
You are righ, it is YAMAHA. But do you want to have a pedal like this one on your boat?

http://domainservices.friedemann-scheer.com/deutschfan/library/gas-und-bremspedal-einer-mercedes-a-klasse.jpg - http://domainservices.friedemann-scheer.com/deutschfan/library/gas-und-bremspedal-einer-mercedes-a-klasse.jpg


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Blake 370


Posted By: Clivian
Date Posted: 20 September 2010 at 19:18
We also have a boom brake, winchard - definately to be recommended, it so takes the stress factor out of sailing down wind in the gybe zone
 
Sue


Posted By: Windsurfer
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 01:08
Clivian, do you have a picture of your Wichard boom brake system???
 
If not somebody please post a picture and explain how it works...
 
Many thanks in advance...
 


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Hanse 320 #079
White hull, tiller, short keel and rudder, standard North sails, Sparcraft rig


Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 20:26
Page 10 by following this linkg will give you an idea and couple of pictures.
http://www.wichard.com/documents/safety.pdf - http://www.wichard.com/documents/safety.pdf

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"Älva"

Hanse 370#671

Stockholm, Sweden

http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig.


Posted By: Flemming M
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 07:10

The princip is very well describe from the manufactory's material. My questions is : How can the 2 blocks be fastend besides the mast. The lines from the brake under the boom goes forward in both side.A foto froam a Hanse 320, 350 or 370/375  will be very fine. 



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Flemming M,
Hanse 350 - DEN 233/#357
Hansine - Danmark


Posted By: Ton&Marga
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 09:31
I have been looking for a boom brake as well. The forces when gybing are huge. Each time, I am afraid something will break.
The one from Wichard looks fine but nfortunately it only suits mainsails up to 40 sqm only. The 370 has 42,5 sqm. In combination with the traveller on the cockpit roof, I assume the Wichard is too light for me. Any experiences with other brands?


Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 09:41
Here are three models to consider. The last links brake is smart in my opinion but never used one so...
 
Marco
 
http://www.dutchmanboombrake.com/index.html - http://www.dutchmanboombrake.com/index.html
http://www.walderweb.com/ - http://www.walderweb.com/ http://www.boom-brake-walder.com/ -
http://www.sailspar.co.uk/boomlock.html - http://www.sailspar.co.uk/boomlock.html
mailto:martin@se.northsails.com -  


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"Älva"

Hanse 370#671

Stockholm, Sweden

http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig.


Posted By: ernol
Date Posted: 25 September 2010 at 10:22
The Wichard boombrake is at least her in Norway expensive. So I have this season with success tried a climber eight. It costs only 10 euro . You adjust the friction by adjusting the tension of the rope on a winch.

Erno


Posted By: AnnSea
Date Posted: 25 September 2010 at 23:20
Hi, here are some pictures of my Winchard Boom Brake. It is rated for a slightly smaller mainsail than is on the 370, but in one or two crash gybes in 30 knots of wind it did its job. I use it all the time and it's worth every cent in my opinion. The control line is sheeted either to a rear winch or to the stern cleat.




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Tim



AnnSea 370e #418


Posted By: Windsurfer
Date Posted: 26 September 2010 at 02:37
Thanks a lot for the information people and thanks a lot for the great pictures Tim...
 
PS...what's that grey stuff on top of your windows??? have you applied a layer of sika  on top to stop the leakage???


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Hanse 320 #079
White hull, tiller, short keel and rudder, standard North sails, Sparcraft rig


Posted By: Ton&Marga
Date Posted: 26 September 2010 at 11:29
Maroc, thanks for the site links. However, the price of these very nice features make that I am also interested in the cheaper solutions.
Ernol, can you explain in a bit more detail how your 'climber eight' solution works?


Posted By: Gran Onada
Date Posted: 26 September 2010 at 22:13
I attach a few pictures of my boom brake a Walder 203C. As you can see my boat today is a real mess as Spanish Importer is replacing my side windows.

I did make a system that can be adjusted from the copick, for that I need to install more stoppers and deck organizers.

Port side of the boat:

 

Starboard:




The device at the boom:




Detail of the deck organizer:




Detail of the boom brake (Walder 203c):



Detail of the extra stoppers on the port side: 1 for boom brake,  1 for 3rd reef, 1 for topping lift (in the future for cunningham):





I trust these pictures will be helpful to you.

Regards


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Gran Onada IV - Hanse 350 #130


Posted By: AnnSea
Date Posted: 26 September 2010 at 23:25
Hi Windsurfer,

yes the "grey stuff" is silicone sealer. My windows are leaking AGAIN. My dealer has organised for them to be fixed under warranty using a different tradesman so fingers crossed it'll be done right this time.


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Tim



AnnSea 370e #418


Posted By: Windsurfer
Date Posted: 28 September 2010 at 17:13
Thanks a lot for your pictures Gran Onada!! Finally I can see your deck layout, the garhauer blocks and the terminator-style boom brake - that's a neet piece of equipment...Do you think it's ok to attach the brake lines to the shroud turnbuckles??? I suppose they aren't designed to withstand the force of a sideways pull....
You've got so many clutches - it's amazing...probably more than anyone on this forum...
I was really upset to hear that your windows are leaking and are to be replaced...I remember you said that you had used some special silicone compound - did it eventually fail??? I can see you've decided to drill your windows and attach some screws???
 
Tim - sorry for you...just like I'm sorry for most people on this forum...look closely when they will be replacing your windows - make sure there's enough sika applyed and no empty spots are left...good luck


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Hanse 320 #079
White hull, tiller, short keel and rudder, standard North sails, Sparcraft rig


Posted By: Gran Onada
Date Posted: 28 September 2010 at 22:03
The silicone worked well, but all my 4 roof hatches were leaking as well and the Spanish imported asked me to take to boat to fix this and then he also decided to replace the side windows.

I must admit is the first time I feel well treated by Marina Estrella. May be is the new guy in the after sales department seems very efficient.

I haven't seen any deformation on the turbuckles, for the moment it works well. And Windsurfer belive me it is one of the best inprovements in the boat.

My deck layout it is a bit special as I've done so many modifications:

* Add 3rd reef.
* Add main sheet traveler.
* Add genoa cars
* Add additional deck organizers.
* Add boom brake
* Add solar ventilator
* Replace all my blocks by Garhauers
* Add mast steps
* Add extra clutches.
* I can continue....

I think I have spend more than 25% of the boat value by improving and getting it ready for my needs.

I attach a couple of more pictures of the main sheet traveler and mast base with all new blocks.

Traveler:




Mast base:




Regards
Gran Onada


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Gran Onada IV - Hanse 350 #130


Posted By: Clivian
Date Posted: 28 September 2010 at 23:33
Will try to take a piccie this weekend


Posted By: Windsurfer
Date Posted: 29 September 2010 at 09:03
Thanks a lot for your informative pics Gran Onada... there's a lot of things that I will copy from your solutions...The garhauer mast colar blocks and the main-sheet system (I've decided to keep the main sheet in the cockpit however) are already on their way from States...
The boom brake...I guess i'll go for the Wichard system, but I will arange the brake lines layout in a similar way...
The solar ventilation looks neat, but there's no space before the hatch on my boat (it's a smaller 320)...I guess I would go for the retrofit system from lewmar and intall it right on the hatch...
Of course I'd love to install some other hardcore equipment on my boat...but then I remember it ain't a space shuttle after all...


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Hanse 320 #079
White hull, tiller, short keel and rudder, standard North sails, Sparcraft rig


Posted By: Flemming M
Date Posted: 22 July 2011 at 11:37
Hi. I borght a Hutton Boombrake, and it seems too work very well. I mountet a wichard 10 mm great shackles in both sides by the chain plate.
file:// file://E:Hanse%20350-Hansine%20dokumenterHansine%20tekniske%20fotoHutton%20boombrake-1 - file://E:Hanse 350-Hansine dokumenterHansine tekniske fotoHutton boombrake-1
 
http://E:Hanse%20350-Hansine%20dokumenterHansine%20tekniske%20fotoHutton%20vantet - http://E:Hanse 350-Hansine dokumenterHansine tekniske fotoHutton vantet
 
The price is aobout the same as wichard's boombrake.


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Flemming M,
Hanse 350 - DEN 233/#357
Hansine - Danmark



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