Anchorsize? 325
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Topic: Anchorsize? 325
Posted By: Hegar
Subject: Anchorsize? 325
Date Posted: 29 September 2010 at 16:38
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I have just made the order for a Hanse 325 to be picked up in April and to be sailed home to Norway. I am joyfully making plans for the trip home.
I did order the windlass, but not anchor and chain as I thought the price was a bit steep.. Right now I have a 16Kg Delta anchor available, but I think it might be too much, the one from the hanse yard would have been 10Kg. Does anyone know if it will fit in the anchorholder in the bow, and/or
will 16 Kg of anchor and 30M of 8mm chain be to much weight in the bow?
please advise
Hegar
------------- Brgds S/Y Spiralis 325#19 |
Replies:
Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 29 September 2010 at 20:40
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Hard to say it it fits in the bow as I havent seen the boat yet. But I can tell you that by removing my 16 kg anchor plus 30 meters 8 mm chain, the boat moves very nice in the water now compared to before. So spontaniously 16 kg sounds too much on a 325.
------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 30 September 2010 at 06:18
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It is always a bad solution to have to much weight in the bow. But the question is, where will the anchor be than? So - Marco - where is yours now? Sailing without it could be dangerous in difficult situations. ------------- Blake 370 
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Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 30 September 2010 at 07:15
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My bow anchor is at home now. I have started to strip the boat of all unneccessary equipment in head of lifting it up in 2 weeks. But I still have a 15 kg bruce anchor in the stern although I will not be using it since we are these days only sailing back and forth between our home harbour. ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 30 September 2010 at 13:26
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The anchor that fits the roller is a 10kg Delta. If you try to fit a 16kg you need to re drill the locating hole, which damages the galvanised finish and the shank is too long for the anchor locker lid.
I would stick to the 10kg.
Kind regards
Phil
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Posted By: JohnA
Date Posted: 30 September 2010 at 18:07
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Hi Hegar, I would be very carefull before using anything other than the standard 10kg. Delta anchor on the 320 unless the electric windlass was upgraded above the standard supplied with the yacht (as an extra). I have found that the weight of the anchor as it is being raised causes the gypsy to slip sometimes, even though I have checked it for tightness. I think that this may be more of a problem if a heavier anchor was used, and this is the reason for my restraint. I hope that you will be very happy with your new 325. If she sails as well as a 320, I am sure that you will be very satisfied. Regards, John ------------- Hanse 320 #464 'Discovery' |
Posted By: Hegar
Date Posted: 30 September 2010 at 18:35
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Thanks everyone for quick advise.
sounds reasonable to stick with a 10 Kg delta then.
This is my first boat purchase and I am very excited about it. seems to me that the 320 is a good boat and I believe that the 325 will be as well...
Hegar ------------- Brgds S/Y Spiralis 325#19 |
Posted By: alidal
Date Posted: 30 September 2010 at 19:03
| Did anyone know if there is more space in the cabins of 325 vs 315? |
Posted By: shaukaas
Date Posted: 11 October 2010 at 22:32
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Congratulations with the new boat! I think you will be satisfied, as it seems like Fjord Boats are trying to, at least, to do a better job than Nelson marine is still famous for. Where in Norway are you based? When racing; I usually remove the 8mm acid proof anchor chain from the bow - but because of them strict regulations (ISAF demand 2 anchors) I just use 30 meters of rope. The boat moves way better in the water without them 30-40 kgs extra weight in the bow. ------------- S/Y Nadun - Hanse 320#171 LG3600 - NOR13510 |
Posted By: Windsurfer
Date Posted: 11 October 2010 at 23:15
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I sometimes find myself in heavy seas here so there's 2 Plastimo Kobra anchors on my boat - 14kg at the bow and a handheld 7kilo at stern...the 14 kilo Kobra doesn't seem to be fitting correctly on the roller it's definitely too big...I'm yet to find how to lock it securely in place and how to wind it in with a windlass without destroying the anchor box lid... ------------- Hanse 320 #079 White hull, tiller, short keel and rudder, standard North sails, Sparcraft rig |
Posted By: Hegar
Date Posted: 12 October 2010 at 12:07
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Thanks.
The boat will be based in Sandebukta ( Vestfold ).
I will go for chain, at least for the transit up from Greifswald. ( looking into how to get equipment from Norway to Germany fairly cheap so I can go by airplane to pick the boat up, so if anyone has experience.....). I will buy a lighter anchor ( a bruce copy or so ) and probably ankorlina for the stern.
I believe that the fresh water tank is somewhat in the bow as well... I do not know how that affects the boat...
Hegar
------------- Brgds S/Y Spiralis 325#19 |
Posted By: shaukaas
Date Posted: 12 October 2010 at 21:18
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Hegar, I would, from my personal experience with Hanse, spend the money that a 2-way ferry-ticket Oslo-Kiel costs. Bring all the equipment you need down with your car, and inspect the boat. Be seriously detailed, and write absolute everything you find on the hand-over protocol. What is not mentioned here, will probably never be fixed. At least not in Greifswald - if you're luckier than most of us - Fjord Boats will take care of it when you arrive back in Norway with the boat; but still you run the risk of a wet (thinking of them leakages Hanse is famous for) journey back to Norway - at sea. Freezing. I think the handover itself was carried out in a very professional manner; but the very first time you find yourself in your new boat - it is hard to remember all them items on the checklist, and it is easy to oversee the nasty details. Despite what the Hanse representative may tell you - you should INSIST on getting the boat cleaned with a high-pressure cleaner, while you inspect for leakages inside the boat. I think 90% of them 320's so far has been suffering from leakages in windows and hatches. Return back home; fill up the car with cheap German beer, service your car in Germany - and prepare for your return in 1-3 weeks. In the meanwhile the yard can fix whatever may be wrong on your boat; you get some time to digest all the new impressions, and further prepare yourself for the transport of the boat. I would not recommend to make a plan on leaving the shipyard the very same day as the handover. I've read the stories on those who have tried - and repeatedly failed... (Check out Seilas.no article archive.) Back in 2008 when I picked up my 320, we took the plane from Stavanger - Copenhagen - Hamburg, and rented a car at the airport. Drove to a shop called http://www.schwenckner.de/ - Schwenckner just outside the city, and got all the equipment for the boat at half price compared to Norway - a third of the prices compared to Wendel & Rados in Greifswald. Then we drove over to Greifswald for the handover of the boat - about 3 hrs by car I think. (Autobahn.) The rental-car was at great help when I arrived with 85kgs of luggage; thanks to SAS for not giving us a penalty for that! However, it probably filled in another 85kgs with beer, food and IKEA interior (plates, glasses etc.) - so the car was widely used the first couple of days. As me and my girfriend spent 1 week in Greifswald, in the boat, the rental-car was also great for visiting Rügen, Wieck and Stralsund. My crew came in a week after the handover, by plane from Stavanger - Berlin, and Deutsche Bahn have plenty of departures from Berlin to Greifswald on a daily basis. A 10 minute taxi-ride will then take you to the shipyard. If you're able to transport all of what you need of equipment and heavy clothing prior to the transport back to Norway, I think it should be an easy fix to leave out the rental-card costs. From what I've heard, it is possible to borrow a small van at the yard, to get some groceries nearby. Also, I would expect your Norwegian dealer to have this information in their routines for their customers... By the way: In regards of the fresh water tank in the bow - the waterline "submergs" 3-4 cm with a full tank. So, again, when racing - most of the fresh water goes out of the boat... ------------- S/Y Nadun - Hanse 320#171 LG3600 - NOR13510 |
Posted By: Hegar
Date Posted: 14 October 2010 at 10:16
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Shaukaas
Thanks, that was a lot of good stuff. I will do something simmilar. I am concidering to simply drive down from Oslo a couple of weeks before the handover. it is not really that far. The life raft and the gas bottle would not be to popular on an aircraft anyway.
was there a good way to store things at the yard, and/or was the boat available for you to store your things?
I guess this thread is leaving the original topic......
Thanks again
Hegar
------------- Brgds S/Y Spiralis 325#19 |
Posted By: shaukaas
Date Posted: 15 October 2010 at 09:42
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I moved into my ship instantly; so I did not have the need for any storage space on the yard. But I doubt they'll put too much effort in to store your items safe, unless you're able to keep them in your boat. The Gas bottle (Norwegian type, propane) where installed by the yard on mine; but this was something Nelson Marine organized ahead for all their customers. What about a new thread; new boat-owner will never get enough information prior to their pickup of a new yacht.  ------------- S/Y Nadun - Hanse 320#171 LG3600 - NOR13510 |
Posted By: daviddb
Date Posted: 31 October 2010 at 18:45
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Hegar,
You may want to read my thread in the 350 section about my views and experiences re the 10kg Delta on my 350. http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4303 David ------------- Hanse 350 353 Selene |
Posted By: Hegar
Date Posted: 01 November 2010 at 19:08
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David
That was interresting, where are you with this now? have you reverted to CQR as on your previous boat? I have not yet bought my primary or secondary anchor, so this is very good feedback for me.
Hegar
( I`ve just read through this thread: http://myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3557&PN=2 - http://myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3557&PN=2 on the 320 hints and tips. and maybe the 14 Kg Cobra is a good idea.) ------------- Brgds S/Y Spiralis 325#19 |
Posted By: daviddb
Date Posted: 11 November 2010 at 17:48
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Hegar,
I have not yet changed it - at this time of year I am only day sailing and not anchoring very often. I carry my 12 kg CQR in the locker just in case. I have the dimensions for the 14kg Kobra, but have not yet sorted out how best to fit it on or near the bow roller of my 350. I will post again when I make some progress on this over the winter. David ------------- Hanse 350 353 Selene |
Posted By: Stevi
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 00:05
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Hello Hegar
I live in Svelvik and has also orded a 325 for delivery in April. Do you now what time in April you will go for yours? I think i will be in Greifswald the 14. Steinar |
Posted By: Hegar
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 12:25
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hei Steinar
I will make a new thread about boat delivery in Greifswald.
I guess that is more appropriate if there is anyone else ablut to pick up a boat around that time.
Hegar ------------- Brgds S/Y Spiralis 325#19 |
Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 16 November 2010 at 13:37
Still working on my webpage but please have a look into http://cdg.nu/370/370_checklist_en.htm - http://cdg.nu/370/370_checklist_en.htm and see it there is anything helpfull to you. also, let me know if you Before/after your trip found something to be missing in my list. I'll add the stuff there later then. The list is a cooperation between soem of the members here but I have not had the time to edit it completly. All help is accepted  ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: Hegar
Date Posted: 02 December 2010 at 18:53
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Ahoi Marco
Nice webpage. the list looks very good. If I do come up with additions, or discover something new during my pick up in Greifswald, I will let you know.
Hegar ------------- Brgds S/Y Spiralis 325#19 |
Posted By: Windsurfer
Date Posted: 02 December 2010 at 20:39
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Hegar, the 14 kilo Kobra is a perfect anchor for 320-325 and holds even in nastiest conditions....I would highly recomend it...however there's one thing that has to be mentioned...it wouldn't fit on standard roller, which would accept a 10 kilo Delta and a 10 kilo Kobra....the roller has to be seriously modified (welded) to make it all work...I will post pictures as soon I get the job done.....if this doesn't threaten you go for it...otherwise get a 10 kilo Delta (or Kobra) which are both a bit undersized for heavy conditions.... ------------- Hanse 320 #079 White hull, tiller, short keel and rudder, standard North sails, Sparcraft rig |