Sail Reviews?
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Topic: Sail Reviews?
Posted By: LakeOntario
Subject: Sail Reviews?
Date Posted: 25 November 2010 at 01:29
| Has anyone had a sail of the new 445 yet? I'm interested to hear how it stacks up against other models. The added volume on this boat inevitably will slow it down, but it looks like a very nice cruiser. |
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Posted By: Stolstol
Date Posted: 25 November 2010 at 21:19
I would also be curious to hear comments on how the 445 is to sail. I have inspite all ods chosen to buy a 445 without a prior test sailing because of the wonderful design and a very well-planned interior. The boat is now delivered to my yard and I'm waiting for summer . ------------- Stig 445 #007 |
Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 25 November 2010 at 23:46
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That makes two of us, I went to the Hamburg show to spend some time on the boat and made a side trip to Griefswald to see the boat being built - all of which impressed. Mine will arrive in Canada when we thaw out in the spring.
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Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 26 November 2010 at 08:50
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Hi Folks,
I would expect you to read my impression with a pinch of salt but I may have been lucky enough to sail it more than most. I have been out on roughly 10 test sails with prospective clients, so approximately 20 hours altogether and in winds between 6 and 33 knots.
The sail area is less than the 430 but still scoots along very happily in next to no wind, so there is no shortage of power.
She is quite happy with full sail in 20 knots and remains light on the helm both to windward and off the wind.
I had 2 reefs and half the jib when it was gusting 33 knots and again quite happy. The helm loaded up a little when off the wind but not significantly and she cruised along at 10 knots quite happily.
Quite how they have managed to make a voluminous boat sail so sweetly is very impressive, inparticular hard on the wind. I spoke to one of the designers at Judel Vrolijk and he told me that the waterline when heeled at a certain angle is designed to be a sweet spot, which is enhanced by the long waterline and significantly kicked up stern quarters.
All in all everyone I have taken out has not just been impressed but blown away by the way it sails, so I think you will be very happy.
The layout of the deckgear is also spot on for shorthanded and the sparcraft rig and sailcars makes the sail hoist and drop very easy.
Hope that helps - Phil
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Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 26 November 2010 at 12:57
| Thanks Phil! |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 19:23
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I could sail the 445 recently in Turkey in quit rough conditions -- the 445 is handy, fast and delightful. I could not resist to order one..:-) ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 23:35
| Nice I suspect that boat will do quite well for Hanse. How long until you get it? |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 08 December 2010 at 08:45
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It will be delivered by end of April in Istambul. I will then spend some time there to check everything and then sail trough the Aegean Sea towards the south coast of turkey – which is a beautiful area – good wind, lots of anchoring bays, nice nature. Let me know in case you are in the area and would like to get a ride on it. ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 08 December 2010 at 13:41
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Sounds like a great place to keep the boat. Our Hull numbers will probably be quite close, mine is going to arrive in Toronto in April.
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Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 08 December 2010 at 21:10
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Super -- let's going on informing about our experiences
with the 445! I orderd it fully equipped including the stronger engine, 2 electrical winches, generator and AC -- a watermaker is now in discussion, but Hanse's offer at 16'000 Euros is expensive compared to market prices. ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 09 December 2010 at 02:24
| I didn't go with the genny or air, but i did go for heat, NSE 12 plotter, thruster, bigger engine, cruising and navigation packages. We'll have to compare notes when the boats arrive, it's going to be a long winter waiting for the new toy. |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 09 December 2010 at 06:55
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Boys never stop to play -- but the toys get more and more expensive :-) The NSE12 instead of NSE8 -- what do they charge for this? Seems a good addition! (thruster and the packages I have). ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: Stolstol
Date Posted: 09 December 2010 at 21:43
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Hello Is it not fun to see how far from each others the boats has been sold? My boat arrived to Sweden three weeks ago . I have spent some time at the boat which is located indoors so I have good opportunities to prepare the boat while waiting for the summer. (-15 degrees Celsius outside right now!!) I went for the Cruising pack, Navigation pack (nice to see that Simrad has provided the NSE8 complete with all charts), shallow keel, electrical winches, bathing platform, AIS, folding prop, Swingthruster and some minior extras. Will spend some time to go through the complete boat. So far it seems that Hanse has done a good job finishing the boat i short time. I was in Greifswald 24 hours before the boat was shipped and it was impressive how many people who could work on one boat at the same time.! Also nice to see that Hanse has the ability to effective change some details on the boat compared to the #001 boat I saw in Amsterdam.  Scandinavian boat fair where boat was exhibited when arriving to Sweden.
------------- Stig 445 #007 |
Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 10 December 2010 at 00:39
| Good picture Stig, the boat looks great. As I recall the NSE 12 cost me around an extra 1,000USD, I've been told it fits the plotter housing nicely. |
Posted By: turk1881
Date Posted: 30 December 2010 at 11:59
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Dear Alain,
We have recently placed our order for the new 495, which will be delivered in May 2011. If you are also located in Istanbul, I would be glad to keep in contact to share any kind of know-how about the Hanse boats.
Regards,
Mehmet Asal
My contactdetails:
Mehmet Asal
mailto:mehmetasal@me.com - mehmetasal@me.com ------------- turk1881 |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 31 December 2010 at 12:03
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Dear Mehmet Congratulation -- its a beautiful boat! We keep in contact! To LakeOntario -- many thanks for the input regarding the NSE12 -- I could change my order -- I think the larger plotter screen makes a lot of sense! Best regards -- Alain ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 31 December 2010 at 16:03
| Have you found out when your boat is being built? |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 31 December 2010 at 16:51
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I have no information about that -- I just know it will leave Greifswald in the first week of April.
------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: turgut
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 14:35
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dear mehmet,
there seems to be no doubt about the performance of hanse boats. but I read some negative notes regarding the finishing of the boats, nuisances regarding faulty parts, etc. and, of course, about bad after sale service. as I'm seriously considering buying a 445, could you pls comment on these issues. I know you haven't sailed the boat yet, but maybe you could share your research notes. thanks turgut |
Posted By: turk1881
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 15:11
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Dear Turgut,
It's true, that there was a big problem about bad after sale service in Turkey. But they have a new local agent (Triodeniz) since last year. I also have contacted the main office in Germany to be 100% sure. They also pointed out the same problems in the past and gave me the quarentee, that the new technical staff is very qualified.
If you should decide to buy the boot, we shall be in contact all the time to share any kind of experiences. We get our 495 delivered at the beginning of Mai and plan to sail to Bodrum about 20.Mai.
Regards,
Mehmet Asal ------------- turk1881 |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 12 January 2011 at 16:48
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Hi Turgut, I have sailed the 445 and I have seen the people and facilities of the new Hanse representative in Turkey -- I had a very positive impression. In fact I orderd a 445 at Trio Deniz, which will be delivered end of April. I believe Trio Deniz / it's staff is really committed to give a good service. (And the 445 is great to sail :-) Alain ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: turgut
Date Posted: 19 January 2011 at 16:24
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Hi Alain the 445 you sailed, did it have standard or furling sails. which type you had ordered?
turgut |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 19 January 2011 at 18:41
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Hi Turgut, The 445 I sailed had a standard main sail and I ordered it also like this as the normal reefing system works perfectly -- also for one person alone. I am not a friend of these in mast furling. If you get a problem with those -- if it gets jammed somewhere way up in bad weather... If mainsail furling it would have to be a boom furling for me -- but I don't think its necessary at all. What is good to have are electrical winches on both sides -- portside for the furling of the foresail. Alain ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 28 January 2011 at 22:21
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Hi LakeOntario The hull number of my 445 is #23 -- yours? ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 31 January 2011 at 05:57
| I have not heard yet. 23 is higher then i expected at this point. Looks like the 445 is going to be good for Hanse. |
Posted By: Ziggy
Date Posted: 31 January 2011 at 12:18
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I ordered a 445 two weeks ago for delivery in June and got hull #45, so it seems like they've got a lot of orders. ------------- Sigurd 445#45 S/Y "Hansemor" |
Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 08 February 2011 at 00:40
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Looks like hull # 27 is going to mine.
I bought a Simrad Sonic Hub, good value at $300, links into the NSE plotter to control the music on the ipod |
Posted By: turgut
Date Posted: 21 February 2011 at 11:18
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Forgot to mention that through Inspiration Marine Group in UK I ordered a 445 as well with hull number 051. So here goes another Hanse to Turkey.
turgut
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Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 21 February 2011 at 15:48
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turgut -- where do you plan to have it in Turkey? My base will be Bodrum. ------------- alain H445 #26 |
Posted By: ontario1
Date Posted: 19 March 2011 at 02:16
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A second 445 will sail on Lake Ontario. |
Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 19 March 2011 at 13:13
| Congratulations! We'll have to compare notes. Where do you plan to keep her? |
Posted By: ontario1
Date Posted: 19 March 2011 at 13:51
| http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Kingston,+Ontario,+Canada&aq=&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=34.250764,74.355469&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Kingston,+Frontenac+County,+Ontario&ll=44.245199,-76.464844&spn=18.945633,37.177734&z=5 - Kingston, Ontario, Canada |
Posted By: ankino
Date Posted: 20 March 2011 at 13:06
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What is the price for 445?, i want to buy one.! it is beautifull.
If anyone mentioned the price somewhere here i am sorry, didn't saw. Cheers, plz pm me with the price. |
Posted By: LakeOntario
Date Posted: 20 March 2011 at 22:10
| Probably varies a lot depending where you live. In Canada it base 264 with 18 off at the boat show. |
Posted By: turgut
Date Posted: 16 April 2011 at 16:20
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so sorry! ı missed this mail. my base is yalıkavak. it's not the best but others are full. |
Posted By: alain
Date Posted: 17 April 2011 at 23:51
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Hi Turgut
I will get my 445#23 by end of April in Istanbul and will sail down to Bodrum. (It's now finished and ready to leave Greifswald) I will then sail in the area during the whole summer -- so we can organize a 445 meeting. When do you get yours? Alain ------------- alain H445 #26 |