Hello!

I have been sailing my 311 for one season. We have not been able to sail the boat wery good in any way....I think.

Who can help me out with some good advise? we have`t been doing anything with dek eqipment. We have the original Head sail and a 140% genoe and gennaker.

Hi Geir,

You are writing that you have not been able to sail good in any way. Please be more specific. Do you have to much heel? Is the boot going upwind every time, do you have to much rudder or to less?? Give us more info and maybe one of the owners (ore more) have some nice advise. I don't think that it has to do something with the dek equipment. Personally I have had some bad experience with the sails.

The standard sails are to full and therefore you get to much heel and less speed. Yes, you will have to put in a reef verry soon. Maybe this is your problem. I have a "lightweater" genoa (150%) mylar and a Quantum main. With the genoa up I can sail unreefed with 12/13 knts wind. With more wind I put up the triradial selftacker (Also new from Quantum) and than I can sail unreefed aprox. 18/24 knts wind. After that I have to reef. How is that with your Hanse?

Greetings!!

Frank (our hanse is a 341)

Anyone there for almost new Doyle sails?? I have sailed with this for 4 times......  

I agree with Frank, we need more details. How old is your 311 and which sails (make) do you have. If they are "East Sails", the jib is generally regarded as hopeless (and it realy is). So if the jib is East Sail don't use it you will not be able to trimm it into any shape (the foot is to short and the leech to long. The main is OK. Is your main fully battened? The standard 311 comes with just a u-bolt for the main sheet attachment. I have got a full size traveller for mine (311) which I found very helpful in trimming. The Genoa tracks are fairly short for a 140% Genoa (again depending on the cut) you might struggle to flatten it out if it gets more windy. Reefing early comes with good light wind performance and the 311 actually goes well with the first reef once you have got to the end of your traveller. Give us some more detail and I might be able to be more specific. We race ours quite a lot, and have a set of cruising and racing sails. Hoever, appart from longer Genoa tracks and upgraded main sheet purchase, kicker and backstays the boat is more or less the same.

Heiko.

Hello,

you are sailing your boat with running backstays? I just bought a Hanse 312. Which Traveller model do you have on your boat? Do you have a tiller or a steering wheel? Maybe you can answer my tiller-extension question.

Where is your boat based?

Regards Thomas.

Sorry Heiko,

I didn't realise that it was you!

Regards, Thomas.

thank you all for trying to help me with my tuning.

the reason for beeing so little spesific is that writing in english isn`t my strongest side. But I`ll  now try to do my best.

The main is fully battened and the standard who comes with 311. we have also just an u-bolt for the main sheet attachment, which I`m not very happy with. So what kind of traweller did you bye Heiko and how did you fixed it. Our 140% genoa should be an allrigt genoa but I can`t give it the right shape, and I can`t see why. Maybe there IS somthing rong with the cut?? What I also wonder what can I do with the angel of the mast? It seems that it cant been leaning/ heeling back?? Beacause of the fixing system to the deck (did you understand what I ment) and the forstays seems to be to short..Frank asked about we have to much heel. yes I think so, I think it is difficult to "twist"the main correctly, maybe because of the mast, only u-bolt and to littel exchange ( power ) in the bacstays, so that we cant let the sail fall out in the top. I also think that the boat get to much up in the wind. At last Thomas we have tiller steering and if I understand you right also running backstays.

regards

geir  (from Norway)

Hi geir,

If you can not get the Genoa right ask a sailmaker to cut the sail to a 130 or 135%. Then you will be able to give it the right shape to the genoa. Also I personally don't think that you will notice the smaller genoa in speed. And it will sail a lot easier because off less heel.

Also you can make a sign in/at your backstay rope/halyard?? I mean, try to calculate 20% of strengt of your backstay. This is the max. power you can put on your backstay. Now I think your forestay will be much powerfull. How to calculate 20% see the internet or look at selden.com (download how to rig). With the sign on max. power you will be able to put the backstay rope/halyard on the winch and make your mast bend like hell!! Hopefully you understand al this... 

I don't think that the forestay is too short but that you don't put much power on the backstay. With the knowlege of max. 20% backstay tension your problems should be solved.

Have fun!! (you can buy some tools from loos.com to measure things) 

Don't forget that all new Hanses come with North Sails which are excellent.  There is an enormous improvement over the East and Doyle sails that came with previous boats. 

Hi,

have you seen the North Sails delivered with the new 312? I will get my Hanse 312 in two weeks and I have the unused jib for sale because I haven't ordered the self tacking track. If anybody ist interested?!

I just ordered a new Genua III which is more efficient than the jib.

Regards Thomas.

I have EAST Sails on my 311.  Why are they so bad? And, if I were to get a better jib how much more boat speed would I get beating to weather?  1/4 knot, 1/2 knot ?????

Matt

Hello,

I can offer you my self tacking North jip, which is brand new. I have no track for the sail on my boat and I purchased a Genua III

Regards Thomas.