Hanse 385
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Topic: Hanse 385
Posted By: Boddensailer
Subject: Hanse 385
Date Posted: 21 June 2011 at 22:05
| Did anybody else notice the new Hanse 385 on hanseyachts.com? |
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Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 22 June 2011 at 07:52
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I did and I want a new boat...again :) Most of all because it has more over head space than my 370. There are some new nice features which I think are great at least on the drawing but if they are in reality as bad as some things was on the 375 needs to be seen when the first boat ready to be presented. ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 22 June 2011 at 08:12
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Hmmmm - are you sure Marco? On the one hand i like the new 385. But if i look at the figures i ask some provocant questions: You want a shorter boat than your 370 even if the numbers (385) tell a diffrent story? Hull length on 385 is only 10.99. The 370 was about 11.25  You want a shorter mast? 17.30 (385) 17.77 (370/375)  You want a heavier boat? 7.6 instead of 7.2 tons You want a boat with less sailarea? You want a boat with a lifraft you cannot reach if your boat is sinking? Bathingplatform will be pushed up by the waves and higher water if boat is sinking as the waterline will be much higher than! How do you want to reach the liferaft than? You want a inmast furled mainsail? If you want to have a b......, than buy a b......!  The only diffrence now is: The hanse looks much better than a b......!  She looks still like a sailboat and not like a caravan! ------------- Blake 370 
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Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 22 June 2011 at 08:33
As said, I only wanted more over head space 
You forgott:
Do you want to have non-epoxy boat
 Do you want to start from the beginning with new problems to solve
Do you want to make your wife mad by spending money on a new boat again
 How can you even mention the B word here  I thought it was prohibited to curse in the church of Hanse  ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 22 June 2011 at 09:11
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Sorry i changed it now to B....... Shame on me. BTW: When you get older you will shrink! So - in about 30 yaers - you will fit into your hanse 370 ------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 22 June 2011 at 11:46
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Hi Folks,
Please can we remember that this is an owners forum that is visited by both owners and prospective owners.
It is negative comments like this that lead Hanse to ask us to close this forum down but we always fight to keep it alive as we believe that it is a good service to owners and allows them to pass on information between themselves to make owning their Hanse more enjoyable.
Ofcourse it is good to have opinions on new models but please bear in mind that this is simply a rendering of a new model to be launched later in the year.
To answer your thoughts.
The mast is shorter but is set further back allowing a larger foretriangle, which leaves a better balance between the main and the jib.
The sail area is slightly less and it is slightly heavier but if the 445 is anything to compare to over the 430 this has had a fantastic effect on the sailing characteristics. In very light airs it would be a little slower but in anything over 12 knots and into the mid thirties it is an amazingly stable and fast boat. If the 385 offers this we will be very very happy.
For most yachtsmen extra weight is an advantage as it offers improved seakeeping and stability and only loses out in the very light winds.
The bathing platform is optional so if you think it is a safety issue with regard to limiting access to the liferaft then it can be ordered without. Having a dedicated liferaft stowage position in the transom like that has to be major a advantage.
Inmast furling is an option or you order it with the standard system. This is just Hanse offering more choices to their owners, which again can only be a good thing.
The epoxy contruction was a big advantage over what was then a standard polyester resin layup. Hanse now use epoxy based vinylester resins as standard, which has the same strength characterisitics but not the weight saving as it does not have the foam core. Hanse are not bothered about saving weight anymore but still want the extra strength and osmosis prevention that the better resins offer. This is standard - how can that be bad?
I think the only bad side would be convincing your other half on the money spending ;-)
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Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 22 June 2011 at 11:58
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Yeoman, point taken but I hope that all readers will understand that this is purely humour and no critics based on real observations. To all new readers: We all Hanse owners are very proud and happy about our boats and as every family, we have a harsh but friendly humour amongst each other.
Regarding closing down this forum it would be quite stupid because it is very easy to start a new one and then we will not have anyone who "slaps us around" when we sometimes step over the line. I think both Hanse and we win in the long end by this arrangement. And, don't forgett, we are the best advertice Hanse have. Many new owners have been here asking for information before they bougt their boat so we are also hell of the salesmen. By that said Yeoman, you are a tough  daddy but we still love you   ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 22 June 2011 at 12:25
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Thanks Marco
Long live MyHanse it is good for all of us
Cheers
Phil
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Posted By: kweetje
Date Posted: 22 June 2011 at 16:26
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I'd like to add something: being the owner of a now 1 year old 375, well yes i had some problems to solve, but i like our 375. It sails well and fast, is comfortable for what we need. Yes headroom is limited, but with my 1.88m i don't have problems except in the bathroom. Overall i'm pleased with the 375 ------------- First 4000 miles, no substantial problems |
Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 22 June 2011 at 18:17
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Yeoman, I appreciate your participation in this forum from time to time, not to mention the UK dealer sponsorship of it in general!
A question for you - why doesn't Hanse care about saving weight? I ask this question for 2 reasons. First, a lot of people see the Hanse as a performance oriented cruiser; a cruiser/racer if you will. In my mind it competes at some level with a Bennie First series in the marketplace. As such, I believe they should try to keep weight down somewhat. Second, and somewhat selfish, not every sailing venue features 15+ knots of breeze. Trying to compete in 6 - 8 knots of wind, which is all too common during the summer here in Vancouver, is a real challenge with a Hanse (and that's with a 2007 epoxy version never mind trying it with a newer heavier version!)
Steve
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Posted By: Brufan
Date Posted: 22 June 2011 at 21:51
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I agree with MarcoC
The existence of this forum was one of the main arguments, among others, that made my decision. The two major competing brands Ba .... and Be ... do not have this type of forum as comprehensive, objective and accessible to the prospective buyer. On some points, this forum replaces the technical documents that we have not always (regardless of brand). But when one owns a Hanse (or thinks about buying one), he knows he can count on a real active community through this forum. Hanse AG and its dealers need to know that this forum is a real help for them as for the sale of boats and for after-sales issues. How long saved for dealers through this forum that allows every owner to know how to fix most small problems that always meets on a boat. I think many other industries to consumers should build a forum like this and possibly help. This increases the knowledge in the product and therefore trust that the client may have in the brand. The consideration for the brand is about leaving a true freedom of expression on the forum. Forum members, however, must use this freedom constructively and intelligently. So long live myhanse ------------- Bruno hanse 355 - 57 S/Y Spicy Ginger White hull, 2 cabins, Volvo D1-30, Selden rig, removable mainsheet track system, Simrad (now B&G)-Jefa autopilot. |
Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 09:37
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Hi Rubato,
The weight saving or adding is now more to do with where Hanse fit into the HanseGroup brands.
Now that they have Dehler, this range is taking up the mantle of Cruiser Racer, which are lighter, sleeker and more powerful than the latest Hanse models.
The idea behind the latest Hanse models is that they still have very well designed and slipperly hulls, thanks to the amazing Judel Vrolijk design team and are now designed more with longer distance cruising in mind, hence the additional weight, crash bulkheads, bigger subframes, extra stowage, inmast furling option, closed transoms etc.
Personally I think it suits the range perfectly as they are still stunning to sail as you would expect from a Hanse but also lend themselves to cruising further afield too.
The feeling of stability and security, whilst still going faster than most things out there is unbelievable.
Admittedly it won't suit the cruiser racers as much but then if they want a quality German yacht that is competitive on the racecourse they can have a Dehler.
I hope that helps
Phil
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Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 10:34
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Jumping from a subject to an other but I just have to say how nice this is that we have a dealer who is having a discussion about the boats here and giving his/Hanses point of view about new boats produced. I would be very happy to join in a section on this forum where we owners cold participate in discussion with Hanse R&D departement regarding boat design/functions etc.
I challange more dealers to participate here in discussion under national forums at least!
------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 11:34
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Hi Marco,
I would like to be able to do it more but seem to struggle for the time especially at this time of year.
I love the priciple though - what better feedback on design etc can Hanse have than current owners?
Cheers
Phil
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Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 17:36
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Phil, thanks very much for the response! Certainly does make sense in the context of the Hanse group. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have any Dehler dealers here in Vancouver. However, I'm not exactly looking to replace my 400 quite yet anyways! ;)
Cheers, Steve
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Posted By: deltabravo
Date Posted: 27 June 2011 at 21:43
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Hallo Phil,
Hanse- Yachten stehen für schnelles, bequemes, sicheres Segeln, mit Schwerpunkt schnell. Dieses repräsentiert die vorhandene Produktpalette. Hanse soll sich hüten schwere Wurstwagen für Chartereinsätze mit viel Volumen zu produzieren, dieses würde das Hanse- Image ruinieren. Ich hoffe, dass JV Design- Team und allen voran Michael Schmidt, lässt dieses nicht zu. |
Posted By: kweetje
Date Posted: 30 June 2011 at 19:47
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Well Hanse is in my opinion repositioning the brand within now "the hanse group". Some will like it, some not, but i've the strong impression that the Hanse name will be used to fight the battle with e.g. Bavaria. The other brands of the group are there to fight other battles... And indeed this will do no good to the brand name in my opinion: - Bavaria has now surpassed Hanse in build quality. When i see the newly designed Bavaria 38, i notice the solid wood interior and the finishing which are well above Hanse standard. - Up till now we could say the Hanse sailing behaviour was better and it sailed faster. I feel like this advantage will be lost :( I like the actual concept of the Hanse brand: easy, good and quite fast sailing with a ship that has some more potential to exploit by adding better sails. The 375 was already a small step back: no bowsprit anymore... meaning the ship was designed more clearly for cruising and nothing more. So my conclusion is: i like the Hanse concept as it is now, but would rather not buy any of the newer models. So if i may ask something toMR. Schmidt: please keep the Hanse identity intact. By fighting a price war with Bavaria, you'll loose more than you can win. With equal price setting and bavaria-ish hanses, i would buy a Bavaria. I guess now i will be banned for having given my truly honest opinion... ------------- First 4000 miles, no substantial problems |
Posted By: Impuls
Date Posted: 30 June 2011 at 21:56
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I have to say I agree with the latest post here. I bought my Hanse to have a boat wich had the following quality:
Now with the very cruising positioning of the latest designs ( 445 and 385)the family sailers that would like to sail fast would consider other options - Yes the 445 and the 385 is said to be faster and better balanced than the boats they replace - but the data sheet says if not all - a lot - shorter beam, shorter water line, smaller main sail - and weight goes up - how can that be good? I love the style - but would hate to being surpassed by other boats - So for me the dehler 41 would be more preferable if I would have to chose from the Hanse group - but why can't I have a nice modern design like the new hanse line up but with racing performance?
Impuls ------------- hanse 320#440 |
Posted By: kweetje
Date Posted: 01 July 2011 at 09:01
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There is the price tag of the dehler which is way above hanse price-tag. At the dehler price level other brands come into scope...
------------- First 4000 miles, no substantial problems |
Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 01 July 2011 at 09:31
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As said before, the newer models are nice but the older are better. Hanse design have for long time been quite radical and modern comapared to others. Why do you think there is such need to come out with new models all the time? Who asks for new longer, larger boats wit less space for storing equipment etc? Why not keep a longer production line of recent models and just change som minor details in interior design?
If I compare my 370 to the 375 with the knowledge I have today about boats compared to 2,5 seasons ago, I would never upgrade. I imaging that storage space it not a such great issue if you sail from your marina back and forth in the Mediterranean but when sailing in our Nordic waters you definetly want to carry lot of stuff when going on vacation and sort of "moving out" in the archipelago.
Changes for just the sake of changes cant always be good.... ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 01 July 2011 at 09:47
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Hi Kweetje, The Hanse brand is not designed to compete directly with the likes of Bavaria, Oceanis, etc but to tweak the current offering to suit what they believe is now desired by modern yacht sailors.
The newest models, 385, 445 and 495 are designed to be fast, safe cruisers with a great level of quality for the price tag, so that they are fantastic value for money.
They are aimed at people who want to do a bit more and go a bit further than the more mass produced charter type boats, which I think fit the bill perfectly without needing to spend a fortune.
The 385 is only 5cm longer overall but has an additional 35cm of waterline length (over the 375). This will not only improve the speed but also the composure of the boat at sea.
The sail area is slightly reduced but this is not just a "Cut down" rig it has been repositioned further aft with a larger foretriange to improve balance and feel.
The 445 was the first like this and it is simply astonishingly good to sail. We did a magazine test alongside the Dehler 45 and the Hanse was easily keeping pace (if not faster) in heavyish winds.
When it comes to the interior this is very much a matter of personal taste and sitting a boat show for 10 days in a row you will see lots of different opinions of the same thing.
We have people that think the Hanse quality and finish is better than everything else and some that think the opposite.
There is no builder in the near price range that use solid wood and very rarely in the much highr price range. The rather expensive Arconas are still marine ply with a veneer.
I can also assure you that the Bavaria is not solid wood.
Hanse are aiming their range at people who want a fast, safe modern cruiser. They achieve this with fantastic design, handlaying their boats using epoxy based resins as standard and laying them out to suit both living aboard at anchor/harbour as well as at sea. No other builder in the same price range offers all this.
Bavaria and Oceanis still aim their boats at the holiday charter market and this is not where Hanse are aiming to be.
Hope that helps clarify the Hanse ethos of the latest models.
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Posted By: gertha
Date Posted: 02 July 2011 at 00:13
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Long live Hanse.
I love my 370. 3000 miles in the last 5 weeks, no problems. Simon ------------- Swanned off |
Posted By: -UMA-
Date Posted: 14 July 2011 at 09:08
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Sorry but i don't agree with you. It's evident that Hanse with the latest models puts itself in compare with Bavaria. First on price target that are now identical and later on project concept.
The difference is that Bavaria builds 1500 boats per year for a long time and has building standards and quality suitable to the number of boats produced and these standards are still growing over time. Hanse has increased the number of boats produced without adjusting its process of quality control and losting constructive solutions that distinguished itself. Please note that Bavaria in last years filled the technical design gap with Hanse entrusting the new lines to Farr Studio and now comes with boats performing like Hanses (I sailed on the new 40s and is really fast!). In my experience the quality of design and construction of my 470 (Made of vacuum epoxy resin with steel structural frame) is not remotely comparable to the new 495. On the other hand the old 461 was even better... I still remember in 2009 Genoa Boat Show presentation of the new 545 (hull No. 2) when the Italian dealers was ashamed picking up people on board because the boat had huge construction defects (for example, the cover of the engine compartment that could not be opened...) I am proud of my boat, I think it is superior to any other of similar value, but the day that I will sell it i will not buy a new Hanse. ------------- UMA 470E |
Posted By: nickfabbri
Date Posted: 14 July 2011 at 11:31
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I am sitting on the fence with this one. I love my 2007 320 and despite the problems that occur with any new boat, she has been reliable, strong and well built andtaken me through some horendous storms way after I had given up
Over the next couple of years I do intend to retire, upscale and spend at least 5 months of the year sailing around Europe and the med, then hopefully further afield.
The 385 will be about the size I would want for shorthanded sailing and looks from the specs as if she would be on the short list.
I am also a huge advocate of brand loyalty. The advantage of having boats built using similar components across the range is that I will already know how to address the niggles and problems that occured with my 320. I am also aware of how much help Hanse give me in aftersales support and how little care other brands seem to have.
However, I have heard anecdotally from sources on here and from a friend who knows someone big in the industry, that the build quality has declined a little. But there will always be detractors towards any brand. I did not want to buy a Ba***** or a Be****** and never will.
I guess that I will go to the boatshow and see with my own eyes what the boat looks like. ------------- Nick71 Hanse 320 |
Posted By: panos
Date Posted: 14 July 2011 at 19:20
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the boats compare in the water, not in paper. From my own experiance the Bavarias are caravans with a decorative sail on top. Most of the users (99% charterers ) motor around, using the sails only if the weather conditions are mild and the wind direction favorable. ON THE CONTRARY most Hanses are private boats and the owner gets a lot of rewards from sailing and unfortunately from maintaining it.  There is no comparison between the two boats. ------------- Panos Hanse 630e - selling her - |
Posted By: Idelfix
Date Posted: 15 July 2011 at 08:34
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Hi Marco, I'm just 1830 mm long, so maybe we should change the boat with each other, otherwise you can remove the floors and clear you for a while ------------- "Keep sailing in free wind" http://suhrfa.blogspot.se |
Posted By: franko
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 08:27
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Morning all. Stuck in harbour by horrendous rain so might as well throw in my tuppence (2 eurocents) worth: I am in the group of owners who would not trade in/up to a newer Hanse. The so-called 'Loft Apartment' design simply is not to my taste. Furthermore, I do not like the rectangular design of the furniture. I want my boat to look and feel like a boat. The only other Hanse I would consider is the 371. Do not try to convince me either that the 'modern' design is not about cutting production costs. Hanse are a business in an extrememely competitive market and have to make a profit to survive so I don't criticise them for this. A remark from the missus: "Only one sink in the galley, what are Hanse thinking about?" This quote from Judel & Vrolijk reads well and I look forward to seeing a 385 in the flesh. Designer brief Our task was to design a boat in the size of the Hanse 375 that would incorporate the style of the recently introduced 445 and 495. The boat should have the same excellent sailing qualities while offering even more comfort and easier handling. The extended waterline increases the yacht’s speed potential. She is very well balanced and herlarge rudder offers reliable and accurate control. Manoeuvring in the marina is made even easier thanks to the provision of additional mounting space for the bow and stern thrusters. Like her larger sister ships, the rig is very simple to operate. Again, the self-tacking jib is designed so large that it has enough sail area even in low winds and a 106% Genoa is an option. Wide overlapping upwind sails are not provided so the chain plates are mounted far outside in order to keep mast weight as low as possible. The yard will offer asymmetric spinnakers for reaching courses, which can be set at anchor fitting. Dual wheels allow the helmsman good views forward and clarity when in harbour. Coach roof winches are not provided so the spray hood does not hinder sailing manoeuvres and the space underneath can be better used as a storage area. The large transom unfolds as a swimming platform. Even without it the cockpit with fixed helmsman seat is closed aft. The layout is also new. You can choose between two twin cabins aft with a short pantry or a double cabin with a long galley and large storage locker. In the bow is a spacious owner's cabin with a double berth much larger than its predecessor, as is the salon. Throughout the boat standing heights have been improved by a few centimetres compared to the H 375. The structure, equipment and systems were all worked out with the latest computerised 3D programs. All components are milled in-house and all forms, including the structure and inner shells, have been built into the first available boat. Torsten Conradi, Judel/Vrolijk & co Oh well, back to my book - "We, The Drowned" by Carsten Jensen.  Skål p.s. How long are the sofas in the saloon? I have the two bench layout and would not want to change this. |
Posted By: nickfabbri
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 12:06
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Another thought on the new 385.
I know that it is a hugely personal thing regarding interior design. However I can honestly say that in the four years I have owned my 320, i have never looked forward to a new model as much as I do this one. I love the 495 styling and hope that Hanse do take many of the features of the 495 and shrink them into the 385. My only hope is that the owners cabin has an option to have an island bed in there. As a long term liveaboard it is a must in my eyes. If they have included this as an option ( and don't still charge £7000 for a shoal draft version), then I will be one of the first to get my cheque book out at the boat show. ------------- Nick71 Hanse 320 |
Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 19:34
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Phil/Yeoman - I understand your explanation of what Hanse is targeting versus what the Oceanis and Bavaria stuff is targeting. If we take that at face value, then who do you/Hanse consider the direct competition to be?
Nick, Fanko et al - there are aspects of the new designs that I find attractive, mostly exterior. BUT I really have to laugh at the J/V 385 summary. For example, the way I read the part on jibs and shroud base is: since overlappying jibs aren't provided as standard we'll make sure you can't add them by widening the shroud base....
I guess there were a wide variety of reasons why we found our Hanses attractive in the first place: design, performance, price point. Most of us are passionate about what made our Hanses great and if those aspects change, well, we get passionate about it. For me, it was a great blend of a cruiser that could be taken club racing. The performance aspects of the design seem to be disappearing so it's doubtful that I'd choose Hanse for an upgrade path either. That makes me sad.... Who knows though, in 4-5 years, the pendulum may swing back....
Cheers ------------- Steve Hanse 400e, #168 |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 08:36
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@Steve, i share your opinions. Espeacially that there will be no chance anymore to sail a big genoa. This is truly a loss! Your last sentence "...pendulum may swing back" is intersting and fits perfect to Hanse. Hanse startet in the early 90th with the Hanse 291. This boat was offered on the Düsseldorf boatshow for a price of 44.444,- DM (about 22.700 €). It was announced as a hammer price. And - no joke - there was a huge hammer flying over the boat on the show! And it really was a hammer price. So hanse started as a company for cheap boats! Than Hanse moved to more performance oriented cruising boats. Still for a reasonable price. Now they are swinging back. And i am sure they will do the opposite in some years.... So - bad times for performance oriented hanse sailors...... ------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 17:55
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Hi Steve,
I normally only try to write about what I believe to be fact on here rather than my opinion as I have an inside view.
With regard to who Hanses competition are this is a tricky one as from our point of view, they seem to have a niche where they are considerably better value for money than the mass produced French boats but not a great deal more money.
No-one else in the same price bracket builds their boats using epoxy based resins as standard and combining this with hugely beefy structural bulkheads gives you a supremely stiff, strong boat that you would normally have to pay a lot more for.
The equipment and fittings are no better or worse than anyone else is offering and personally I think they ought to take the route of going higher spec on these too and bump the price up a bit. Having said that they will charge retail price for the upgrades so why not leave this to the owner. If you want better blocks, sails and dyneema halyards etc keep the standard ones as spares.
So assuming you are getting a better constructed boat for your money foot for foot where do the latest Hanse range sit with regard to performance?
They are less canvassed and heavier foot for foot than their predecessors but they are also better balanced and benefit from the latest design ideas.
Judging them on paper statistics is never going to give a realistic view of how a boat sails, so before making a judgement as to whether or not you would have one if/when you come to upgrade - get out and sail one.
I have only sailed the 445 of the latest styles and I have sail it lots. In 20+ knots of wind it was very happily keeping up with the Dehler 45 (helmed by a serial Cowes week winner) and never felt even remotely pushed, helmed by me who is no racing driver I can assure you.
I am sure in lighter winds it would have fallen behind but they are designed to be fast cruisers not racers.
This is turning out to be a useful exercise for me as I don't know what they compare to sailing wise. They are much more rewarding than the French boats I have sailed and considerably more seaworthy. Not as fast as a J, Dehler, First but so much easier and more composed. I guess they have a niche there too.
My favourite reports are from delivery skippers we use to bring them 1000 miles from Greifswald to the UK. These guys sail every boat under the sun and they always arrive amazed at how well the boats have sailed. According to the boss of the main delivery firm we use the skippers actively ask to be put on any Hanse deliveries available, which is a fantastic testamonial.
All in all (remember I am a dealer) they are a better value for money than anything else on the market and have a better mix of speed/comfort/ease of handling than anything else.
Its no wonder they are so popular!!
With regard to the shroud base width. Taking the shrouds out to the hull sides adds strength to the rig through having a wider base as you will find on the latest Ocean Racers. It does limit the overlapping genoa front but then with a higher aspect rig a larger genoa would completely unbalance it in anything but the lightest winds.
I hope this is taken in the right context. It is my opinion and not my usual factual input.
Cheers
Phil
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Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 18:45
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Understood Phil, thanks so much.
Can't disagree on the itegrity, strength and performance of the hull. Also can't disagree on the overall performance in decent wind. Just disappointed that some of the options that were available on the older models to get the boat moving in 6 knots of wind are no longer applicable.
Cheers
Steve ------------- Steve Hanse 400e, #168 |
Posted By: gertha
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 21:46
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A point that is not being raised.
The curent race boats J , open 40 etc do not run overlap head sails, partly a rating thing. They all have a bunch of diferent kites on board and raise them with small crews or no crew at all. It could be this is the way foward if you want speed. Simon ------------- Swanned off |
Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 05:38
That's true Simon, but they are much lighter boats so the SA/D ratio is higher than the Hanse.... ------------- Steve Hanse 400e, #168 |
gertha wrote:Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 08:38
No wonder the Hanse 445 is prereefed!
Following this the fun starts at 12 knots Hmmmmmm: If you look into our harbours many people do not sail in winds more than 20 knots. So the windrange is only from 12 - 20 knots! You will miss the windrange from 4 knots to 12 knts! Thats about 50 % of the windrange of a Hanse 370 for these people. (OK Hanse sailors still sail in winds above 20 knts....) But: One thing to remember for us all: We are all still talking about a sheet of paper! Let us have this in mind! If i see the first 385 i will try a small race with my 370 and will let you know who is faster... ------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: Oddmund
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 09:53
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I go with Panos's comment that the boats compare on water and not on paper.
Also keep in mind that the wast majority of Hanse-owners seems to stick with the selftacking jib.This is how it looks in real life on water for the Hanse owners that I have seen(on water)  ------------- S/Y Havsula. 370#569 |
Posted By: franko
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 11:47
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The more I look at the 385 I like it. I have a big genoa which lies at home in the cellar. When out cruising I use my laminate Jib and carry a Gennaker. I have two folding bikes, the gennaker, my cockpit tent, cleaning gear, fishing rods and all sorts of other s*** on board when out cruising. Where the heck do all you other smaller Hanse owners store everything ?? Any price guide out yet? Any nice Hanse dealers wanna take an old 341 in Part Ex.? |
Posted By: nickfabbri
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 08:01
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The price is similar to the 375, and Hanse have now posted the polar diagrams on their website. I guess this means they must have built the boat by now. All we need now is some photos. Please. ------------- Nick71 Hanse 320 |
Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 10:58
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Hi Nick,
Definitely not one completed yet I am looking at number one 3/4 built. The polars come from the designer.
Pics to come
Cheers
Phil
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Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 11:42
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Frank, Ah Frank, you ask a good question, " Where the heck do all you smaller Hanse owners store everthing" Take for example myself and my 301, on Dancing Demon, we tend when out cruising to use self tacker and main mostly as Mrs Holby, find this the easiest sail plain for us, and i have to bow to her argument. We also carry our 120% Genoa and our Cruising shute, plus our Gail Sail, these we store in the stern cabin, ( except when the Admiral comes a calling, and then we just hide everything). The inflatable dinghy we store on the cabin roof just infront of the spray hood, as it takes too long to store in the stern locker. Side fenders and bow fender some hanging of the stern and some in the stern locker. This stern locker is quiet large really once inside, as we store Cobb cookers, charcol, rolls of rope, stern anchor, oars, 30 ltrs of diesel, and the list goes on. We find that in main the internal storage for food is quiet limited once you have the required amount of beer stowed away for the length of journey you will be making. We store in the stern locker nets of fresh produce hanging on hooks. We the small Hanse owner has adapted over the years to, not only to walk with a slight hunch, but be creative in the storage of all our essentials, or just take more cash with you to buy what you cannot get on board, at your destination. If we were to buy a bigger Hanse, and we have looked at a 370, we would wonder what to do with the extra space, as one can only drink so much beer......, and my hunch is i think here to stay. Still I think we will upgrade to a 370 in time, as the clutter on board now is getting worse. BUT what I have found after my table broke free from the floor boards, is that there is a remarkable amount of untapped room available without the table inplace, but I have found that the top of the dishwasher, and combined washing machine/tumble dryer, that now occupies the centre of the saloon, makes a good table, but I am at a loss of where to put the Generator unit to provide me with the power. Dave ------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp) 
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Posted By: skipper
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 12:04
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The design of our old 342 could have been done differently to make me more happy, I think sailors in the northern part of Europe cook more food onboard and therefore need more lockers to store things.
I must say that our former 30 feet yacht from 1976 did have a much better storing facilities than our current Hanse has.
When checking out a new boat on a yacht exhibition it's easy to say "how big the saloon is" and forget that the price is that you can't even store a plate laying down in the lockers. I can't buy a newer Hanse due to that the storing facilities have been even more reduced over the years and change of models ------------- Cheers, Skipper Former owner of Hanse 342 2005 (Sparcraft mast, white hull, wheel steering, deep draft keel, short rudder) |
Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 15:38
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Skipper, Sadly I could not afford a new Hanse, but for me the i chose my second Hanse for " not how big the saloon is" or even how much storage space for food there was, as creative thinking ( thinking outside the box, as they say) can sort a lot of the storage problems out. I chose my Hanse 301 for the following reasons, a) how well they sail, b) the support from the broker, in this case the Hanse dealer, c) how much I could afford, and lastly d) (often thought of as the deal breaker) to meet with the requirements of Mrs Holby, there were just gthre of these i) Heating, ii) Hotwater and iii) a Shower, I managed 2 out of the three on this, so I reminded her about a, b, and c, and we bought her. Yes there are niggling things with her but all said and done she is a fine boat and will do us until we can afford something like a 370..... as this has iii ( shower) then I cannot lose. Dave
------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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Posted By: Doug
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 16:57
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Skipper & Holby -- IMHO the Hanse 37 is the best of all the Hanse designs. The boat is a joy to sail, cruise or race, and it has more than ample storage. If you go with the 2 cabin version, the galley storage is plentiful, to say the least. I have yet to use all the storage bins & cubby holes, much less all of the cabinet storage available---and there's enough depth to store full size dinner plates. Then there is the voluminous aft storage (the garage) which can easily store an extra anchor & rode, a 135% head sail, an asymmetric spinnaker, and a plethora of sundry other gear. And the boat still sits on its proper water line! It has a roomy shower, too. Hanse has sold a significant number of the 370 model, which is a testament to its many good design features. If one comes on the market, buy it!
------------- "Red Sky" 2008 Hanse 370, #465, Doug Anderson, Deltaville, VA, USA |
Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 19:31
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Doug, Thank you for your comment, it has re-enforced my thought on the 370 as my next boat. Mrs Holby will be so please to hear of the roomy shower. Cheers, Dave ------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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Posted By: Doug
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 19:51
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Holby & Skipper - I forgot to mention in my earlier
post that I also stow an inflatable roll-up dinghy in the "garage" along with all the other items mentioned . And, indeed, Mrs. Holby will be happy with the 370's shower, but she will appreciate the galley even more;the two cabin version has an enormous galley, with lots of counter space, plus all the cabinet storage.
------------- "Red Sky" 2008 Hanse 370, #465, Doug Anderson, Deltaville, VA, USA |
Posted By: skipper
Date Posted: 22 July 2011 at 09:23
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Holby,
thinking of using our current yachts in the best possible way. Would it be possible to share your smart solutions to store things in a new thread?
I will steal with pride. ------------- Cheers, Skipper Former owner of Hanse 342 2005 (Sparcraft mast, white hull, wheel steering, deep draft keel, short rudder) |
Posted By: Hullabaloo
Date Posted: 22 July 2011 at 12:15
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Doug
I too have a 370 (#87 from 2006) and I agree that it is an excellent package. I am intrigued by your reference to your "garage". There is a space (quite large) in the stern. But on my boat, it is only accessible through small openings from the rear cabin/lazarette. I certainly could not get my dinghy into it. How is your boat set up?
John
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Posted By: Doug
Date Posted: 22 July 2011 at 13:28
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I access the "garage" (lazaret) primarily through the starboard seat hatch. The inflatable roll up dinghy easily slides through this opening, as does the 135% head sail. The asymmetric spinnaker has to be shoved a bit. The access door at the end of the galley allows me to reach small items (bucket, sponges, portable cooler, etc.) I store on the floor at the front end of the lazaret.
------------- "Red Sky" 2008 Hanse 370, #465, Doug Anderson, Deltaville, VA, USA |
Posted By: Kit 312#322
Date Posted: 23 July 2011 at 16:55
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Hi, I'm curios to see photos and test of the new 385. I think it could be a good way between 400 and 355. Now I have my fantastic (and little...) 312. Thinking to change, the new 385 could be a good solution but i need to see something more than a rendering... Anyway, changing a boat my choice will be Hanse again. Just last week with my 312 in Sardinia: wind 10 kn, speed 5.8-6 kn with 105% head sail. I don't know if other 31 boat does something like this...
------------- Hanse 312#322 |
Posted By: nickfabbri
Date Posted: 01 August 2011 at 15:54
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Just in case you are waiting for more info on the 385, I found this on the Aussie Hanse website.
http://www.windcrafthanse.com/hanse-385-storyboard.html - http://www.windcrafthanse.com/hanse-385-storyboard.html ------------- Nick71 Hanse 320 |
Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 08 August 2011 at 15:40
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The longer I watch the layout and Ausie pics the more glad I am to have a 370 from 2006
I see things in the 385 that makes it more a boat not to sail with....
A aditional freezer , it also uses more E-power, the laptob in the front cabin , the nav corner only fits a cup and a pakket of cookies
I am goning to take a look at it here in Holland at the Hiswa boot show in Ijmuiden wenn I am there because i am interested , but wenn I was looking for a new boat ( I am not) I would not buy the 385
greetings Marcel
------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: panos
Date Posted: 08 August 2011 at 15:55
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I suspect that the Hanse group has a new strategy: The original Hanse market to go to Dehler (sailor owners - mainly sailing shorthanded). The Hanse brand to build spacy boats for the marina and the charter market. The new Hanse logo to be :" Build by the marketing team for the sailors wife" I am not happy if this proves to be true. The new Hanse models are the only source of my suspicions. ------------- Panos Hanse 630e - selling her - |
Posted By: nickfabbri
Date Posted: 08 August 2011 at 15:57
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Aletta, I think that from talking to Hanse UK, those photos are a mock up from the factory and not really representative of the final model. I had a floor plan (which I have now duely misplaced) which indicated that the chart table was bigger than the 375 and 370. Agreed, the second fridge is a silly idea. You can also have the option of a third fridge outside in the cockpit table. A 37 ft boat with 3 fridges as an option??? It must be for sailing alcoholics or penguins
Although all in all, there are many features that sound totally innovative. We personally are not looking for a yacht that looks like the inside of a mahogany coffin crossed with an old peoples home .The 385 seems to be exactly what a young couple would want in a yacht. Lots of light,space and a massive bed.
Hanse know that they are up against the Jeanneau 409 and many of the "new" features are identical in both boats ( hidden lines, the table is the same,twin standard wheels, leather covered stuff, curved windows looking aft to the cockpit).
We too are looking forward to seeing it unveiled at Southampton.
------------- Nick71 Hanse 320 |
Posted By: Ziggy
Date Posted: 08 August 2011 at 16:54
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Hi!
A short input to the discussion about the sailing performance of the new 5 series from Hanse. I´ve been sailing my new 445 on the coast of Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Norway for the last five weeks. It´s true that in very light winds (below 6kts) the sail area is a bit on the low side. Above 6 kts at TWAs of about 45-100 degrees she performs very well, even with the standard self tacking jib. She points higher into the wind than any other cruising boat I´ve seen, and her stability in high waves is far better than any other boat I´ve sailed in that price range. I´ve not been racing her yet, but I had a very good friend onboard for a week who is a very experienced racing sailor. He was amazed of how well the 445 performed. On this trip we easily overtook a couple of 400s(TWS 8-10 kts) and even managed to overtake a 470 (TWS approx. 20kts). Personally I think Hanse have done a smart thing to make the boats a bit stiffer and more seaworthy. Of course you loose a litle speed in very light conditions, but the 445 is still very fast compared to other boats in the same price range. ------------- Sigurd 445#45 S/Y "Hansemor" |
Posted By: franko
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 09:12
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More info now on hanseyachts.com Anybody know when/where the first model will be shown? http://www.hanseyachts.com/385/documents.html#/385/documents.html - http://www.hanseyachts.com/385/documents.html#/385/documents.html
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Posted By: nickfabbri
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 10:14
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Apparently the debut is at the Southampton boat show. I looked at the new infom still no interior shots or the elusive "360 walkthrough"
------------- Nick71 Hanse 320 |
Posted By: franko
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 18:44
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Nice. A dedicated thread for the 385. I hope when I get to see the first boat I am convinced to buy one. Trade-In please Hanse.
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Posted By: Henrik84
Date Posted: 12 August 2011 at 20:53
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I love the photos of the new 385. Now i am really thinking to do an upgrade. /Henrik ------------- S/Y LaRey Hanse 320 #430 Gothenburg, Sweden |
Posted By: Henrik84
Date Posted: 27 August 2011 at 23:04
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Today I have seen the 385 in the water.
The floating boatshow in Ellös (Sweden) had World premier for the 385. I have to say that I LOVE this boat, and the price is dam good about 120 000 euro with alot of equitment like heater, sprayhood, windlass, 30m anchorchain and so on. I´m sorry i dont have any pictures from the inside, there were to many people inside. 
I will strongly consider buying one within a short time. The only thing i dont like is the huge bathing platform. I think the bathing platform is an saftey issue when water comes into the cockpit. /Henrik ------------- S/Y LaRey Hanse 320 #430 Gothenburg, Sweden |
Posted By: ernol
Date Posted: 29 August 2011 at 14:11
| more pictures http://www.seilas.no/wip4/bildekarusell.epl?id=1072307 - http://www.seilas.no/wip4/bildekarusell.epl?id=1072307 |
Posted By: franko
Date Posted: 29 August 2011 at 14:20
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So Bryggan i Väst are not out of business ? I suppose it was they showing the 385. |
Posted By: Henrik84
Date Posted: 29 August 2011 at 16:51
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Franko. Bryggan i Väst was there and with there logo, but if you check the flyers they had in all the boats the name was Svensk Marinimport AB and not Bryggan i Väst. /Henrik ------------- S/Y LaRey Hanse 320 #430 Gothenburg, Sweden |
Posted By: franko
Date Posted: 30 August 2011 at 07:52
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Ah ha ! Interesting But check these details out, from the web. Bryggan i Väst AB  Marstrand Lilla Varvsgatan 16 440 30 MARSTRAND Tel: 0303-20 56 50 SVENSK MARINIMPORT AB BESÖKSADRESSSVENSK MARINIMPORT ABLilla Varvsgatan 16 440 30 MARSTRAND |
Posted By: Henrik84
Date Posted: 30 August 2011 at 20:22
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I think they have start a new company. They have the same CEO. ------------- S/Y LaRey Hanse 320 #430 Gothenburg, Sweden |
Posted By: Hutschlange
Date Posted: 04 September 2011 at 06:11
| I have seen it on paper but havent seen it on real, nice boat |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 05 September 2011 at 08:09
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Karl Dehler shows the new Hanse 385: http://www.segel-filme.de/boote/test-technik/die-neue-hanse-385-karl-dehler-stellt-sie-vor/ - http://www.segel-filme.de/boote/test-technik/die-neue-hanse-385-karl-dehler-stellt-sie-vor/ ------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: Henrik84
Date Posted: 05 September 2011 at 17:13
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Thanks PB. Now I have to go to my bank and then buy one.  ------------- S/Y LaRey Hanse 320 #430 Gothenburg, Sweden |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 07 September 2011 at 12:00
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Sorry, the link / movie is offline since today... In another german forum they say, the movie is only for dealers now............ Strange model policy ------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: seileren1
Date Posted: 08 September 2011 at 09:59
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http://www.seilas.no/wip4/detail.epl?id=1084580&cat=4914 - http://www.seilas.no/wip4/detail.epl?id=1084580&cat=4914
Gives preliminary test results of the Hanse 385 compared to other 38 footers, looks very promising!! Cheers |
Posted By: panos
Date Posted: 08 September 2011 at 15:52
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thanks Google translator!!!
------------- Panos Hanse 630e - selling her - |
Posted By: alidal
Date Posted: 08 September 2011 at 17:43
You should learn Norwegian!  ------------- Hanse 400#655 |
Posted By: panos
Date Posted: 08 September 2011 at 17:55
@alidal:eller kanskje du bør lære gresk .
------------- Panos Hanse 630e - selling her - |
Posted By: seileren1
Date Posted: 08 September 2011 at 19:50
| Lol :-D |
Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 11 September 2011 at 20:35
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we have been at the Hiswa in IJmuiden today and seen the new 385.
The dealer claims it is very fast , but wen i told him about our own speed in the 370 we have he did not say any more .
It is more a cruiser today in our opinion than the 370 wenn it was introduced in 2005. ( the 370 was sold more as cruiser racer but that is also not true)
But it was a boat with a lott of improvement comparing to our 370 .
The interior is very nice and complete and looks very solid.
For the one who is buying they will have a lovely yacht.
greetings Marcel
 ------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: garrys
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 03:08
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I saw one at a boat show this past weekend. I was very disappointed with the interior. The interiors have gone from modern and sleek to looking like modular, cheap-motorhome interiors. This boat may have great sailing characteristics, but you have to change your mindset from "cruiser" to "racer" in order to lower your expectations about any kind of interior beauty. It's gone. The head is plain--I mean really plain. The access to the large lazarette is tiny compared to the 371 and 375. You have to crawl into that space. It's terrible. The dual helm set-up on a 38-foot is absurd. And how practical is it to have the radar/chart-plotter in the center between the two wheels? I know all the boat makers do that, but it makes no sense. Who stands there? Mark my words: The 385 is going to cause Hanse to lose market share to a lot of other European yacht builders. What a shame. |
Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 09:03
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Hi Garry,
As we present new models at boat shows each year it is always very interesting to listen to the opinions of those visiting to see them.
It is normal to have an even break between those who prefer the old model and those who prefer the new. The 445 and 385 have been the first models where the emphatic public opinion has been that these are definite improvements on the models they have superseeded.
Certainly in the Uk the new boat market is not growing dealers are just gaining or losing market share as you mention above. We are very grateful to the latest Hanse models as they are winning us significant market share which is great news.
The new 415 appears to having the same great impression too so far.
Still it is always good to hear people are happy with the Hanse they have now.
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Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 13:58
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@Yeoman We have a 370 and are verry happy owners. Dispite a not so verry good start with some warrenty items , we now love our hanse 370 2006. We are not going to chanche this for the comming , say 20 years , exept wenn we winn the lottery. greetings Marcel ------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 15:25
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Great news Marcel
The 370 is a brilliant boat
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Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 15:37
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Marcel,
Do you actually do the Lottery?
Dave ------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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Posted By: Jesterjon
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 16:11
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Garrys, I have ordered the new 385, as I like the interior and the the twin steer, I just hope it is as good as I think it looks, I will find out in the next few weeks. Jon. ------------- Jonathon. |
Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 18:40
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@ Holby No I dont join any kind off Lotery , but my wives does....... greeetings Marcel  ------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 18:58
Great news Marcel, so you have multiple chances with your many wives........ ;-)
------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 19:14
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Another classic misspelling. It is like when Marco had a bear for breakfast. Johan -------------  http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 19:18
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I love it. I have already done a foto of marcels boatsname, but i cannot upload it.... So i do it this way: Right now his boat is called: together Soon it will be: gotthem  ------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: Idelfix Too
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 20:27
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or "to get her too" ------------- "Idelfix too" Hanse 430e -08 Keep sailing in free wind http://suhrfa.blogspot.se |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 10:53
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fotoupload is working again. Here is the foto of marcels "new" designed 370  ------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 11:03
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Pour Marcel! Will he leave the forum now? Johan ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 11:10
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Wauw It looks real Sexy.... No I will not leave the forum But I am just having one wive , I think it will stay like that. greetings Marcel ------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 03 February 2012 at 10:38
OK, marcel, your foto needs a little correction. I hope you will stay with us now  ------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 03 February 2012 at 11:20
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Brilliant! I love your signature as well, P-B! I didn't know you could insert a picture. Johan ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 03 February 2012 at 11:46
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Yes, you can add a foto to your signatur. Seems to be a new option. First you have to upload a foto, maybe to your site. Than you can use the link. I personally uploaded it to the myhanse forum, and took the link from there. ------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 03 February 2012 at 11:55
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That's brilliant! Then you can put as much text into your picture as you like without being limited by the number of characters you are allowed to use. Johan ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Ian Robinson
Date Posted: 09 February 2012 at 22:05
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Hello Jon,
When will she arrive and where will you keep her?
My wife and I looked at the 385 at the recent London Boat Show and there were several features we quite liked. We also throught that Hanse has improved some aspects of the visible build quality. I hope you enjoy her and welcome to the Hanse community.
Regards
Ian ------------- Ostara a 370#88 |
Posted By: Jesterjon
Date Posted: 09 February 2012 at 22:16
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Ian, Thanks for that. We will keep her at Kip Marina on the Clyde. We expect her to arrive by the end of next week, she then needs various additional items to be fitted before sea trials and hand over hopefully by the end of Feb. I am sure I will have been to look before then so if I get photo's I'll post them. Jon. ------------- Jonathon. |
Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 09 February 2012 at 22:58
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Jon, keep your eyes peeled for Richard D ( aka The Duke) his 312 Morgen is wintering there. I am sure he will be more than willing to split a dram or two with you. In the kips bar & restaurant. Love the style of the building. ------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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Posted By: Jesterjon
Date Posted: 10 February 2012 at 10:34
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Dave, I will look out for the Duke, what is the correct form of address, my Lord, my Laird, Sir, or What a lovely yacht, it must be a Hanse! Jon ------------- Jonathon. |
Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 10 February 2012 at 12:32
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Jon,
I think the address for Richard ( aka The Duke) as he does not stand on ceremony, is just " Oi, matey, what a lovely ship you have, is she one of those Hanse's I have heard some much about", and if said in such a beguiling tone, he will ply you with copious quantities of Whisky.
 As will I when we meet up in Gods country later this year, as I am sure we will.........
Dave ------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 10 February 2012 at 14:21
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Jon - are you and your brother identical twins? I'm a bit concerned that I may be seeing double even before you have both plied me with malt. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: Jesterjon
Date Posted: 10 February 2012 at 14:50
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Charles, We are identical twins and still look very similar although my brother is heavier and has less hair. I will try and post a picture of us with the new Yacht on arrival. Jon. ------------- Jonathon. |