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Topic: Bow ladder
Posted By: Sailingjack
Subject: Bow ladder
Date Posted: 17 February 2012 at 13:06
Hi All,
 
I'm looking for a bow ladder for my 400. The bow anchor on the port side and back sweeping bow pulpit is a tricky combination. I've heard that Båtsystems ST135 ladder fits Hanse 375, but 400 is just a bit different, or is it? ST135 may not reach...
 
Does anyone have a solution for 400?
 
Unfortunately bowsprit is not an option for me.


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Hanse 400#803 s/y Saara



Replies:
Posted By: tingeling
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 21:40
yes...just tie a step-fender (banana-shaped) to the bow...works well


Posted By: Ian Robinson
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 17:20
Does this work for you?
It is simple and quite cheap.
 
Ian


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Ostara a 370#88


Posted By: Sailingjack
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 14:08
Hi tingeling,
 
Actually we already have a step-fender, which is OK by me. But our kids and my wife find it unsafe. So that is why I'm looking for a more solid solution.
 
Hi Ian,
 
You have a good, light-weight system. I don't have any bow sprit, which could be used as a base for a ladder. Do you find your ladder rigid or will it swing when one enters the boat after having some pints on the club?Smile
 
Thank you both for your replies. We still have ice at sea in Finland, so I have a month (!) to think about different options before the sailing season starts.
 


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Hanse 400#803 s/y Saara


Posted By: Ian Robinson
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 18:04
Hello Sailingjack,
 
No its quite stable as in the photograph.  The step is trapped by the anchor.  There is a little movement when you place your weight on it and obviously one grips the spinnaker halyard for balance.
 
We only use the step in the Baltic and so we did not want to spend a lot of money on a  bowstep system.  Weight was another issue too.
 
Regards
 
Ian


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Ostara a 370#88


Posted By: Sailingjack
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 18:57
It is a somewhat small market for bow ladder makers, I think ladders aren't widely used outside Scandinavia. So there are only a few models available.
 
What I'm looking for is a compact, multistep ladder which reaches near to the sea level so that kids can easily climb up from island rocks. It should also fit to the anchor locker already full of fenders and should be cheap ... mission impossible.


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Hanse 400#803 s/y Saara


Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 08 April 2012 at 08:07
If
 
 
If you are thinking of having one made I noticed an emergency ladder on a boat in Scotland
I photo'd it as a reminder in case I wanted a ladder some time
It is a tube with bars set through it
The main tube in the picture is hinged but this may not be necessary
You would have to design a hook for the deck but if the cross tubes were made with a pin on one side of the main tube they could be made removable
This means the largest part to store would be the main tube
Before anyone suggests it-- I do not think holes in the spinnaker pole would be a good idea!!!!
One could use a broken dinghy mast or a broken fibreglass sailboard mast & some wooden broom handles to experiment with before ordering the main parts
 
 


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Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex


Posted By: Sailingjack
Date Posted: 10 April 2012 at 08:05
Samuel,
 
That's a good one! That design would fit in the anchor box and I could use the ladder as a Xmas tree at home (yes, I am an engineer).
 
A standard peace of equipment is always desirable, if I break it I can get a new one off the shelf. But if I need to have a tailor made, that type of ladder could be the way to go.


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Hanse 400#803 s/y Saara


Posted By: Sailingjack
Date Posted: 10 April 2012 at 08:08
Piece man! Typo LOL

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Hanse 400#803 s/y Saara


Posted By: Salater
Date Posted: 10 April 2012 at 16:44
Hi!

Maybe this bowladder is something for you?



I found this bowladder here:
http://www.hanse-yachts.de/2009/shop.html



Posted By: Sailingjack
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 20:35
Thanks Salater,

I tested the Båtsystem ladder st135, but it doesn't fit for a 400. But that Delta anchor ladder in your pic is perfect. I want one too.

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Hanse 400#803 s/y Saara


Posted By: Markku
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 05:07
Niro-Petersen sells those bow ladders in Germany, but they don't have webshop for easy purchase. I once ordered couple of items from there through emails, but delivery cost was quite high. Look at page 132 on their catalogue.
 
http://niro-petersen.de/yachtbeschlaege/katalog.html" rel="nofollow - http://niro-petersen.de/yachtbeschlaege/katalog.html
 
Markku


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S/Y Flow

Hanse 371


Posted By: Captain Cook
Date Posted: 14 July 2012 at 19:21
A few days ago en Willemsburg, Holland I saw a Hanse 400 with the bathing-ladder from the stern mounted in the front at the starboard side beside the anchor locker. It looked fairly OK, but a granddaddy might find it a little difficult to climb at the side of the ship. The ladder had one of the supporting studs 4-5 cm longer than normal. It would be possible to make a retacting stud, so the ladder could be used both at the stern and at the bow.
Kjeld 

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Freya H400 #27 (2006),2-cabin, 40HP 3JH4E, 3-blade Flexofold, Aries LiftUp Windvane, Exturn 300, Jefa DD1,Simrad NX40,Icom M603(VHF)+M802(SSB)


Posted By: Sailingjack
Date Posted: 17 August 2012 at 09:37
Thank you everyone,
 
At first, I also considered modifying the bathing ladder for double use. However, here in nordic countries we most often moor bow in when visiting harbours. We have a couple of times used the bathing ladder in harbour, so one ladder is not enough.
 
I eventually purchased the anchor-attached ladder according to Salater's and Markku's suggestions. Compact size, fits nicely in anchor box. Our youngest feels a bit unsafe climbing the ladder, 'cause steps are somewhat far from any hand grip. But she grows up fast.
 
Now I need to secure the anchor better. Tightening the anchor chain is not quite sufficient to keep it steady, especially later in the evening...


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Hanse 400#803 s/y Saara


Posted By: skipper
Date Posted: 17 August 2012 at 13:49
Sailingjack,
 
you could check out this discussion thread, the images could be understood by everyone but the Swedish could be a problem
http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4528&PN=3&title=peke-med-stege-eller-bara-stege" rel="nofollow - http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4528&PN=3&title=peke-med-stege-eller-bara-stege


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Cheers,
Skipper
Former owner of Hanse 342 2005 (Sparcraft mast, white hull, wheel steering, deep draft keel, short rudder)



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