Emilia's first race
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Topic: Emilia's first race
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Subject: Emilia's first race
Date Posted: 05 September 2012 at 22:42
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I am happy to tell you that I have raced with my boat for the first time in my life. The race took place in Egersund in Norway where Emilia currently is moored and the race was arranged by Egersund Seilforening. The race was part of a series of "Wednesday Regattas" of which I will be able only to participate in one. As the weather gave strong winds today the regatta was held in the harbour and therefore was a round-the-cans-race and I estimate it to be around 10 M. Emilia was the second boat to cross the finish line (after a Bavaria 45), which gave her a third position after correction. I was doing it single-handed without the four paws I am used to as Stampe (the ship's dog) weighs one kilogram to much to fly on a plane with me. Needless to say, it was great fun! Johan PS. The winning boat is a Hanse 320, by the way.  -------------  http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
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Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 05 September 2012 at 22:53
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A couple of pictures from the race taken by my friend Magda Styrnik-Jørgensen from the shore. She is usually a fine crew member on the Dufour 34 "Bua" who also took part in the race. Bua is the boat I really wanted to compete with as I crewed on her during a race across the North Sea in 2008. Johan  The starting line  Some might say that a winning concept is to concentrate on the sailing and not wave to the audience   Having rounded second can for the first time  Emilia and the Bavaria 45 "Enjoy" ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 06 September 2012 at 00:31
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The winning boat, the Hanse 320 "Evelina", on the port side of Emilia. Johan  ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Swanji
Date Posted: 06 September 2012 at 07:15
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Hi Johan Great images - thanks for sharing. You say the winning boat was a Hanse 320. Was this on handicap or did they come first? If they did and they were up against a 45 foot Bavaria, they did extremely well. I am currently sailing in Croatia and have had a severe denting of any ego I may have had for the last week. We seem to have been passed by everyone. A couple of times by First 45's with 5 or so crew on the rails. Wow they were going like an express train. Seriously we felt like we were standing still in around TWS 15 and AWA 40 degrees. We have a fixed bladed prop which we will be changing to a Kiwi prop next season and the the boat needs to be Antifouled again. Also our jib is five years old and hopefully this will be replaced as well. We will probably go for a self tacker again but in North radian. Not sure how much difference this will make. The boats with larger headsails seem to have more grunt. Such is life, a little depressing it has to be said. ------------- Onwards and upwards Nidri, Levkada, Ionian, Greece Hanse 350 #7, SY Evolution, standard keel, 3YM20 sail drive, 3 cabins, cherry wood interior, teak decks, feathering prop |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 06 September 2012 at 07:30
The 320 won on handicap. I was the second boat to cross the finish line. The picture below shows me making the last few tacks of the race and the Bavaria 45 is not visible because it is on my starboard side. You can see the other boats and the closest boat (to the right in the picture) is a Dufour 34. Johan  ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Swanji wrote:Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 06 September 2012 at 07:55
Here is a summary of the miles I have put under the keel so far in my life: I have sailed faster than bigger boats many times. I have sailed faster than smaller boats many times. I have sailed slower than bigger boats many times. I have also sailed slower than smaller boats many times. Johan  ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 06 September 2012 at 08:42
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Johan How did you get on with the chute up. Could you still hold your own OK then or is that where you pulled away?! I think you should not have come third as this puts on too much pressure to come second next time. Be very careful because once the racing bug gets you you will be hooked for good. It is just as well your daughter was not on board because if she got hooked you could end up bankrupt ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 06 September 2012 at 08:52
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------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 06 September 2012 at 08:55
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Hi Johan, it looks like that you had retired from the race!!  The reason, why I am writing this is, that your Flag was still rised up during the Race!? normally, you rise your fla in a Race, when you'll retire!! Enjoy ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 06 September 2012 at 09:20
This was a race when no one hoisted their downwind sails. The wind was too strong and gusty for that. It can also be seen in the pictures above that most boats choose to reef their mains. I however choose not to do that in order to have more trimming possibilities at hand in the gusty wind. Johan ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 06 September 2012 at 09:24
Now that you mention it I recall someone saying that you don't fly your flag during a race. I had no thought about that and did not notice that the others were not flying theirs. But then again, I am not used to racing. In the preliminary result list I was listed as "The Swede" as they did not know my boat's name. So maybe it was good to fly the flag after all. Johan ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 06 September 2012 at 09:32
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Hi, I see you love to do racing! So, welcome in the club!! Enjoy  ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: Swanji
Date Posted: 08 September 2012 at 08:03
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Hi Johan That sounds like a carbon copy of my experience ------------- Onwards and upwards Nidri, Levkada, Ionian, Greece Hanse 350 #7, SY Evolution, standard keel, 3YM20 sail drive, 3 cabins, cherry wood interior, teak decks, feathering prop |
Posted By: panos
Date Posted: 08 September 2012 at 18:22
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Did you get a cup? ------------- Panos Hanse 630e - selling her - |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 09 September 2012 at 12:42
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No, sadly I didn't get a cup. I would have to participate in all the races in the series to get one, I think. The good thing about being able to participate in only one race is that I don't need to worry about coming last next time. Johan ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: kirkelund
Date Posted: 09 September 2012 at 18:28
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Hi Johan Well done Your dinghy sailing experience won't fail you. Since this was an in-harbour race I think it was a wise decision not to reef the main as the wind speed was probably going up and down a lot. Also well done by the 320 crew. I suspect the 320 is quite good when it blows Ole, ------------- Kirkelund "Amani" Lynetten, Copenhagen, Denmark Hanse 342 (grey hull, wheel steering, deep draft keel, Jefa rudder - RUD34) |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 16 June 2013 at 22:45
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Yesterday Emilia participated in her third race (and so this thread is no longer about her first race). This time I can't be bragging about me sailing single-handed as the ship's dog Stampe was a crew member, although he slept on the cockpit sole throughout the race. Anyhow, here is the race results:  ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 16 June 2013 at 22:53
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The winner in the race, S/Y Bua, is the Dufour 34 I talked about earlier and she is the boat I really wanted to race against. She is skippered by a friend who I coincidentally met through myHanse when Simrad IS20 was discussed a few years ago. And by the way, I managed to take a picture of him sailing in front of the Vibberodden lighthouse a few weeks ago. I think the picture will make it to one of the walls in his house. Johan  ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 16 June 2013 at 22:58
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There were another two Hanses in the race, a 370 and a 320, and both can be seen in the below picture. They are going in the opposite direction as they are headed for the mark I have already rounded. Johan  ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 16 June 2013 at 23:04
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Here is another picture of the boats still headed for the mark I had just rounded. And there is no boat in front of me. Johan  ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: hanafe
Date Posted: 16 June 2013 at 23:36
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Hi, we do and did many races on HanaFe already. We always do very good through the water, but they gave us a very bad local handicap. We have to give time to almost everybody in the fleet, including longer boats, flying symetrical spinakers. That is bit frustrating. However, we still managed to win two races. Most of the time we also have much too competitive boats in the fleet, like TP 52 and Sydney Gtx 43. Of course we only see the stern of these boats. The reason I comment on this thread is another one. I see on your pictures that you guys do not remove the anchors from your bow. This is against the ISAF sailing regulations according to my knowledge and leads to disqualification in our hemisphere. It is a big burden for us to remove the anchor all the time, as we we have to unchain it, and put it in the sail locker. Why do they allow to keep the anchor? I am looking for good arguments, because mine that the others have long bow sprits was declined, as the flukes of the anchor could get hooked into each other but the bow sprits will not. HanaFe |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 07:50
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I am passing the question about the anchor to the next person. I am not really a racer so I am not aware of all the rules. I however know that you don't fly your nationality flat when racing but that is a rule I broke this time as well. I thought it was kind of me to show the Norwegians that they got Swedish competition. Johan ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Swanji
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 08:29
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Hi Johan Well done! Chapeau! Andall! Interesting that the Dufour 34e was the boat that beat you. I know this may be difficult to answer but would you say that they beat you due to the way the boat was set up in terms of sails, weight or did he luck out on wind shifts or perhaps it was tactics? Is the Dufour 34e faster than the Hanse 342? I would think that the hull speeds are similar. Great images as usual ------------- Onwards and upwards Nidri, Levkada, Ionian, Greece Hanse 350 #7, SY Evolution, standard keel, 3YM20 sail drive, 3 cabins, cherry wood interior, teak decks, feathering prop |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 09:32
The boat in question is not a 34e, just a 34 (I don't know if this make any difference but I thought I should mention it). I think there was a performance option with a higher mast when my friend bought his boat. Somehow Dufour managed to send him the short mast but the tall main so he had to reef the main to make it fit.  The sail is now cut to fit. The Dufour 34 is definitely a faster boat than the Hanse 342 and this is reflected in the handicap. My LYS is 1.20 and his is 1.22. The boat itself I think is 1000 kg lighter. The race area, the harbour in Egersund, is surrounded by mountains which makes sailing very tricky, especially in strong winds. I am not saying I am not used to it as sailing in the area of Stockholm is similar, but Norway is worse. It makes for gusty winds coming from all directions, even from above. So yes, you need to find the exact right spots to find the wind you want. Otherwise you stand still while a boat ten metres away are passing you at seven knots. When it comes to sailing skills I just try to sail my boat the way I usually sail her. On the Dufour there was a crew of four and they were running around on the deck while I was trimming my sails from where I was sitting helming. I don't know if this made any difference in terms of the results. Johan ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: kirkelund
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 21:24
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Hi Johan I don't think the specifications of the Dufour 34 (Performance) and the Hanse 342 are so different. The displacement of the two boats is quite similar (1000 kg lighter is as light as a Finn Flyer or X-35). But, the Dufour does boast a lead keel Data according to (Swedish) sailguide.com: Dufour 34 Performance
Hanse 342
Ole, ------------- Kirkelund "Amani" Lynetten, Copenhagen, Denmark Hanse 342 (grey hull, wheel steering, deep draft keel, Jefa rudder - RUD34) |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 21:43
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Hmmm, these are interesting figures. I think I have to double-check my initial sources. But you are right. I am a crappy sailor as I only came second. Johan ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 02 January 2014 at 21:54
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My crew (who consists of my daughter and my dog) spent the Christmas week in Egersund where we could pick up the prizes from the races we did in 2013. Mine was for coming second in the race mentioned in a few posts just before this one, the other one was for my daughter for being such a good crew in every journey we've undertaken. Johan  ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: Johan Hackman
Date Posted: 02 January 2014 at 21:57
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I know this is not a sail racing picture that belongs in the racing section of this forum but I somehow feel it is a bit linked to the racing I have done in my life. You know, I had to sail 1000 M to do my first race and then I sailed back. The picture was taken during our visit to Norway where we kept Emilia during last winter. Johan  ------------- http://www.johanhackman.se" rel="nofollow - http://www.johanhackman.se |
Posted By: kirkelund
Date Posted: 05 January 2014 at 20:02
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Hi Johan Well done and well earned trophies! I also think your success is proof that the Hanse 342 is in fact a true performance cruiser. Notice that the specs are very similar to those of the Dufour 34 Performance (see earlier in this thread). You might also compare with later models of the same size (both Hanses and other brands) and discover that boats are somehow getting heavier and heavier  Uhh BTW, I also think your success is proof that you are not at all a "crappy" sailor as you put it yourself......or maybe you just have a fantastic crew Ole, ------------- Kirkelund "Amani" Lynetten, Copenhagen, Denmark Hanse 342 (grey hull, wheel steering, deep draft keel, Jefa rudder - RUD34) |