Chartered a 385 this weekend, few questions.
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Topic: Chartered a 385 this weekend, few questions.
Posted By: simonpickard
Subject: Chartered a 385 this weekend, few questions.
Date Posted: 06 January 2013 at 23:53
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Hello all, I chartered a Hanse 385 this past weekend for two days. Really enjoyed the boat. Extreemly easy to sail, good speeds, always felt safe on her, loved the internal space for a boat this size. All in all a very happy camper. There were a few things I was wondering about though (as I'm interesting in possibilly buying one of these next year). 1. The shower tray kept getting water in it. Almost seemed like the tank this was draining into wasn't low enough or something. For example I'd use the skin, and this was drain fine, but then look over and see some of this water just above the plug in the shower tray. Also, the tray doesn't seem designed that well, water kept building up near the sink and not draining away. It's almost like the angle of the tray isn't enough to force water down the plug. Is this normal on a 385? I loved the shower, worked very well, it's just the drainage that seems a little flawed. 2. There were a few marks on the walls (understandable). What are the walls made from though? Some kind of resin/plastic? Just wondering how hard these are to clean and keep looking nice. It's not like you can paint these. 3. The saloon table. Really the only other thing that was a bit of a pain was the table, when down there isn't room to walk around it, you have to jump over it to get to the seats behind. Is this just due to the size limitations onboard? It's not a deal breaker but would have been good if you could get around the table a little easier. Any help on these from other 385 owners would be great! Regards, Simon |
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Posted By: Peter Russell
Date Posted: 07 January 2013 at 18:58
I can't answer for the 385, but on my 370 the drainage of the shower is also not well thought out. Possibly Hanse thought it so good they carried the design through the range  On the 370 there is almost always water in the tray as it does not drain sufficiently down towards the plug hole. Now I use a chamois leather to dry everything out after we have all showered. Also on the 370 I don't think there is any box below the plug hole. I believe it runs directly to the pump and hence overboard. The pump has a very fine filter on it which catches every little bit of dust and soon blocks. Even with regular cleaning this allows water to run back as you describe. As to the other issues I suspect they are specific to the 385 although our white walls respond well to gentle cleaning without any abrasives and "loading" the saloon table is done "one at a time" to get people into the hull side seats. ------------- Peter Russell Hanse 370 hull 499 "Outnumbered" http://outnumbered.the-russells.net" rel="nofollow - http://outnumbered.the-russells.net |
Posted By: Martin&Rene
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 11:27
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I have installed a one way check valve on the outlet of the shower pump and now we do not get water running back into the shower tray, as we used to do when we were well heeled to port. ------------- Martin&Rene Hanse 341 Dipper Wheel steering, 3 cabin layout, normally based in Scotland |
Posted By: poppydog
Date Posted: 09 January 2013 at 22:40
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Glad you liked your weekend sail. We bought a 385 in November and had thoroughly looked at the alternatives (Bavaria 36, Jeanneau 379, Dufour 375 and Beneteau Oceanis 37), none of which had better solutions for the saloon layout. In fact the Beneteau was an assault course by comparison. The build quality on the Beneteau and Jeanneau was shocking and the Bavaria - well say no more other than you get what you pay for! The Dufour was the only direct comparison but, Inspiration Marine shone out with both the product, price and the customer interface at point of sale. This has also been apparent since we have been owners as the Hanse after sales has been 'refreshing' and has have given my wife and I renewed faith in the sadly lacking marine industry. We have had no problems with our shower, although the galley sink doesn't like draining in a rush. If you get any marks on the interior, we have found the red topped 'Big Wipes' great at removing pretty much anything. (B&Q) Unless you really need 3 cabins, plump for the 2 cabin (which we have) as the galley and lazerette are massive and you will struggle to fill either area. Good luck with in your quest. |
Posted By: simonpickard
Date Posted: 09 January 2013 at 23:29
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Thanks for the feedback guys! The one way value sounds like it solves the issue with the shower. This also seems quite a rare problem from all accounts so hopefully won't be an issue at all. The 385 is a lovely boat. I'd be going with the 2 cabin and using the extra galley space to add a Freezer. One other thing that blew me away was how energy efficent she was. We had a Fridge on the whole weekend, lots of lights after dark, pumps working away, and we hardly touched the batteries after mooring up. Amazing how things have moved along with LED lighting, better insulation, etc. Regards, Simon |
Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 18 January 2013 at 05:58
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Glad you like the 385, we have just ordered one. Is there anything else you would plump for or definately not do again on the options list? ------------- 385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine |
Posted By: poppydog
Date Posted: 18 January 2013 at 07:06
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Hi mark and Catherine. We ticked most of the boxes on the options list and are very pleased with our selection. I would definitely go with the leather seats as red wine or tomato sauce are not a great bedfellows with the cloth options. We love the blue hull we chose and also the massive storage space in the lazerette (we chose the 2 cabin option). We bought a gennaker with a Colligo Marine furler which is a must as the gib downwind is not great. This coupled with the FCL sails included in the performance package, make for a slippery fast boat. The only thing we would have added would have been to select the lighter coloured interior woodwork. Good luck - great selection. A point on berthing fees. The LOA is 11.4 metres, which if you are in certain marinas, they will not allow you to sit on an 11m berth, as the cut off point is 11.3m. However, if you put the anchor in the locker, the LOA is 11.27m and you will come within their draconian rules. |
Posted By: Jesterjon
Date Posted: 19 January 2013 at 14:08
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Simon, We have had our 385 twelve months and sailed approx 2000 Nm's, we have had no drainage problems in the shower, so maybe there was a blockage in your charter boat. You get used to climbing around the table and when full ie 8 crew it is still comfortable to eat. We brought the standard winches and the second set which although not needed all the time are occasionally useful. If you can get larger primary winches I would recommend it. We went for light interior with red/ burgundy coloured cloth which looks great and considering we travel with four or even five children clean easily. The walls on ours marked from new but easily clean off with a sponge and warm water. Jon. ------------- Jonathon. |
Posted By: simonpickard
Date Posted: 19 January 2013 at 14:55
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Hi Jon, Would love to see some images of the lighter coloured wood if you've got some time to post them. That's the colour I think we'd go for as well. Regards, Simon
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Posted By: Mark&Catherine
Date Posted: 21 January 2013 at 06:09
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Hi Poppydog,
Thanks for your comments. We went for the furling code 1 as i already have an assy from my previous boat that will work for deeper angles, and the cherry wood which isn't the lightest but lighter than standard. Didn't think about the leather though, and we drink a lot of red wine so we will reconsider that choice.
Thanks again
Mark and Catehrine ------------- 385 ubulukutu sail number GBR 3350L in Turkey and Greece with Mark and Catherine |
Posted By: Brufan
Date Posted: 21 January 2013 at 08:42
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The standard fabrics used for seats and mastress is Socthguard laid. So it's stain resistant especially for red wine (tested and approved by myself and my wife on delivery day !!!) ------------- Bruno hanse 355 - 57 S/Y Spicy Ginger White hull, 2 cabins, Volvo D1-30, Selden rig, removable mainsheet track system, Simrad (now B&G)-Jefa autopilot. |