Is there really a 430??
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Topic: Is there really a 430??
Posted By: 371-#235
Subject: Is there really a 430??
Date Posted: 28 August 2006 at 21:16
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Is it just me or where are the preliminary sneaky spy pictures etc. of the 430 like we've been getting of the 470 and the 630. They announced the 430 last winter yet I haven't seen even a spy shot of it. Has anyone actually seen one? (even one hiding in the plant somewhere) Bob, 371-#235 |
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Posted By: Terry
Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 09:17
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Bob it will be at the Hmbg boat show,I am told .Still no Photo's Terry |
Posted By: taduka
Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 09:25
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Yes there is a 430 and it's really nice !!! Shawn |
Posted By: Terry
Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 10:33
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Shawn have you seen any photo's? Terry |
Posted By: ernol
Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 20:03
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Hi, see her |
Posted By: no name yet
Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 21:00
| looks nice! |
Posted By: digme
Date Posted: 29 August 2006 at 21:36
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I guess the 430 was pushed back to roll out the 470 in time for the boat shows. Guess one of the questions that should be asked is whether the 430 will be a small 470 or a big 400, or if it's going to be something else. (I can wait. I'm not planning to order a new boat this fall.) |
Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 01:36
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Ernol, nice conceptual computer model BUT the masses (well this forum at least) wants something more real!!!! I've heard through my dealer that the 430 will be a big 400 and that the whole program was delayed to push the big boats to finish. In any case, presumably there is to be one at the Hamburg show. I tried to confirm by looking on the boat show site but I think the info is old - still shows 411 not 400. I guess we'll see..... Steve |
Posted By: Terry
Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 11:08
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Why are there no Port holes in the 370/400 and none in the 430?? Terry |
Posted By: Popeye
Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 13:40
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Why not just check out the http://www.hanseyachts.com - www.hanseyachts.com pages. There is a pdf spec with pictures. From the pics I would say in some areas are "big 400", whilst in others "small 470". Intersting to see the computer rendering shows a dark stripe centre deck (a long portlight, like the bigger boats, very nice...) which is not shown on the pdf spec. Intro page to the 430 says "430 Summer 2006" ... hehehehe ------------- Popeye the sailorman |
Posted By: digme
Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 17:03
That pdf is preliminary and quite old, and designs may change. The 461 to 470 move has been made for a reason, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few 430-modifications as a result of that process. |
Popeye wrote:Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 30 August 2006 at 18:31
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Popeye, You call those line drawings in the PDF pictures? Sorry, doesn't work for me, maybe you have a better imagination. Steve |
Posted By: Alex Faber
Date Posted: 17 September 2006 at 17:16
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If you go to http://www.hanseyachts.de/ - http://www.hanseyachts.de/ and you choose German language you can get more information than is available in English. Try both, going directly to the 430e and first going to "Yacht-Konfigurator" and than to 430e.
I ordered mine and got hull number 24. So already 23 ordered a 430e before me! I decided to go for it before having seen number one, because I would have ordered the Hanse 430e later anyway and now I might get it early 2007. It seems the ideal yacht for me: - Hanses are the only production yachts that are not underpowered with a self tacking jib. - All Judel/Vrolijk designs I have sailed performed great. - With a Hanse you seem to get very good value for your money. - Hanses are the only production yachts that can be ordered with an epoxy hull. - The 430e is the “smallest” Hanse with two wheels (I like to steer, sitting on the windward site, while watching the headsail/spinnaker tell-tales). - The 430e is the biggest Hanse that can be ordered without a teak deck. At "Hanse Boot", the Hamburg boat show at the end of October, I intend to decide for which options to go. Hanse promised to show the first one there. The standard engine has been downgraded to the 3 cylinder 29 KW (40HP), but I think this is plenty of power for a 10,400 KG sailing yacht with no deck house. |
Posted By: Terry
Date Posted: 17 September 2006 at 20:42
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Alex ,why would you not want teak deck?! I just returned from sthmptn show and I thought the 47 looked petty good,I am torn between 470 -430. Terry |
Posted By: Alex Faber
Date Posted: 17 September 2006 at 22:00
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Terry,
A teak deck heats up in the sun making it uncomfortable to walk on and heating up the interior. If screwed, it adds hundreds of possible leaks to the sandwich core of the deck. It adds a lot of weight above the waterline. Most teak decks look ugly after a decade. But most important reason to me: According to my information, for teak decks you can only use teak from the tropical rainforest, because only these trees provide the right quality of wood. To get these trees, enormous damage is done to these forests. Alex |
Posted By: Terry
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 14:13
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Alex A good enough reason. Terry |
Posted By: Alex Faber
Date Posted: 29 September 2006 at 22:21
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Got the information today from the Belgian dealer (where I bought mine) that Hanse is not able to display the first one at the "Hanse Boot" show in Hamburg at the end of October, as they promised before. Now they plan to show the first one at the Paris boat show.
If my current boat would be sold before next summer I might want to rent a Hanse, because I am afraid mine will arrive in autumn ( hull # 24). |
Posted By: Jeci
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 13:19
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I am very interested in this model and as I am making the transition from motor powered to sail power, I need all the information that I can get.
Like how it handles, how easy for such a beginner like me, and will it fulfill my needs as hopefully I progress in my sailing skills to actual take parts in many races that are organised all year round locally.
My intentions are to potter around our local fantastic ancharages with long weekend crossing to nearby Sicily, and also a yearly crossing either to north Africa or Greek Islands.
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Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 18:09
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Jeci
Since the 430 hull#1 isn't in an owner's hands yet, you will have to go on Hanse's reputation and sailing characteristics from it's other boats. If I were to sum up, they are performance oriented, easy to handle, high quality (particularly for the structural aspects) yachts. A boat that size may be a bit of a challenge for a first time sailor but likely you are used to power boats in that range which will help. One of the best things you can do for yourself is to take a course or two if you're new to sailing. One other thing I'll point out is that setting the boat up for easy 1-2 person cruising is different than setting it up for racing. You could go with the cruising config for now and change (add) as necessary to make racing more fun.
Hope that helps
Steve
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Posted By: Jeci
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 19:52
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Thanks Steve,
I have a meeting with the local agent here in Malta, next week. He says he have a 47 arriving in two weeks time, and am looking forward to have a good look at it.
I will let you know how it goes.
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Posted By: Terry
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 20:32
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Hi Jeci
I am also in the same position,looking at the 430,new to sailing somewhat ,moving from power also.I have taken a few courses.I have alsobeen given the same advise,correct i believe.
The first showing will b Paris I am told,I am confident the 430 will b fine but can't wait to see it.
Terry
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Posted By: Alex Faber
Date Posted: 15 November 2006 at 21:46
| Just heard from my dealer that introduction has been postponed to Boot Duesseldorf in January |
Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 16 November 2006 at 01:40
| Wow, the delays continue to rack up. Glad I didn't wait for this baby! |
Posted By: Alex Faber
Date Posted: 17 November 2006 at 17:28
| My wife starts talking about renting a motorboat this summer and going through the French canals. Could be nice as well. (for once) |