simrad GB40
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Topic: simrad GB40
Posted By: mikymoon
Subject: simrad GB40
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 14:16
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?Hallo.
This morning I start the Simrad GB40 and this is what has happen.
ERROR:
"STOP: c0000218 {registry file failure}
the registry cannot load the hive(file):
\systemroot\system32\config\softwareçoe its log or alternate.
it is corrupt, ansent , or not writable.
Beginning dump of physical memory......"
etc....
How can I add a keyboard to enter into the system and restore it?
within the USB , does not work.
also I made a USB recovery system but it goes first tho the Hard Drive , and not to the USB.
I have disconeccted all the cables , and same error .
At the beginnig it appears a windows MSDOS message , " if You want to START normaly or You want to RESTORE it. But with the OP30 does not work...
Any IDEAS please.?
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Replies:
Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 15:12
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Did you have a look at this thread ?
http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5661&title=simrad-gb-40" rel="nofollow - http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5661&title=simrad-gb-40
AIS overload?'
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Posted By: mikymoon
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 18:59
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Thanks for the answer, but i disconnect everything and the error still there. This error can hapen when you shut down a computer suddenly . But it has to be some way to connect a keyboard and restore windows.... |
Posted By: mikymoon
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 15:01
SOLVED!!!!
Im still waiting for the answer from simrad Spain, after several emails , no answer....
I solved , with a PC keyboard connected to the USB ( key charts) The keyboard only work for two secons before the error appears , enough for a ctrl+alt+sup and the GB40 restarts , but the keyboard works fine . So wait for the normal windows message to restore the system. And the GB40 does it all itself, Factory defaults , no charts ..etc .. I just installed the charts , and it works perfect now....
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Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 17:47
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Good job! Now a usb keyboard will be a part of my toolbox  ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 18:03
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Hi, change it to a NSO-System. It's an upgrade available for the GB 40. I've done that 1,5 years ago. Now Linux is running on my boat and I am really happy!! Costs now around €1250.- in Germany! ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: Stephan Engman
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 20:10
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I agree with Sailkoop, just uppgrade your computer with NSO and no more problems. Sorry for Sailkoop but I only paid Euro 500. I think Simrad have had a lot of problems with GB 40 and are negotiable. ------------- Stephan Hanse 470e #199 |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 21:58
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Stephan, Was that at the swedish Simrad distributor in GTB ? ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: Stephan Engman
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 06:50
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Yes in GTB. One more+ is that you get all the charts covering europe for free. ------------- Stephan Hanse 470e #199 |
Posted By: panos
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 09:24
Can you please share the name or product code of the GB40 to NSO upgrade package? I am also interested to change the IS20 wind instrument to the new IS40. I have been told that an upgrade package is either available or will appear very soon. Any info? ------------- Panos Hanse 630e - selling her - |
Stephan Engman wrote:Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 10:39
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I remember i wrote in a post in this forum many years ago "marine electronics will start to break down after 5 years". Well, my GB40 will not send data to the AP24. (and I know it's the GB40 because i tested with an other units and it works fine) The display of the AP24 has pixel errors The IS20 masthead unit rotates too slow and gives me too low readings. All from 2008. This is not unique for Simrad. Raymarine are equally crappy. ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 11:00
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Stephan, When did you do the upgrade? Sailkoop & Stephan, How did you fit the OP40 for operating the NSO? Will it fit on the cockpittable?
------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: High Time
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 14:29
The Raymarine kit (ST60 wind, log, depth and autohelm - no chartplotter) on my previous (B) boat was still going strong after 13 years (Year 2000). The anemometer was left at the masthead and never touched in all that time. The only problem was the depth instrument. After 12 years this refused to work below approx. 10 centigrade but was OK in the warmer weather. I now have Simrad and stories of failure inside 5 years are disappointing. Time will tell . . . ------------- Roger High Time (415 #038) |
Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 14:42
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same for me, I had a Raymarine ST 50 System fitted in 1996 and upgraded tp ST 60 in 2000. My masthead unit is still the original one.
The Simrad quality stories make me nervous as well
 as I will be getting the NSS8 with AP24 and IS 40 in 4 weeks, |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 21:29
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In 2005 i bought a new First 44.7 fitted with Raymarine. Before I sold it in 2008 i changed the navigation computer, one tridata and one mast display due to moist / corrosion inside. So in my experience Simrad and Raymarine are as I wrote equally crappy. At least Simrad are offering upgrade prices so you can get your marine electronics working again. Raymarine at the time billed me full price for their crappy displays and I had to pay since I already sold the boat and didn't want to deliver a faulty boat. ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: panos
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 21:55
Strange. I have similar problem and last weekend I spend hours verifying the simnet cables. My problem: the compass (??42) sends data to AP24 but not to GB40. Also AP40 doesn't see the route waypoints any more but strangely reads the wind and temperature data available in the simnet. ------------- Panos Hanse 630e - selling her - |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 22:16
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Panos, I spoke to SIMRAD today. They offer to look at the GB40 unit (have to send it to them). If they can not fix it the standard upgrade price to a NSO unit are apr. 1200 euro. They change the inside of the GB40 unit and you get the same back but with NSO inside. Stephan managed to get it for 500 euro so maybe its negotiable. Simrad told me they need 2 days for testing the GB40 and apr. 1 - 2 weeks if they have too upgrade to NSO. If you upgrade to NSO you also get a new OP40 controller. Not sure how that will fit in the cockpit table. Did you ever change your compas? I changed mine some years ago and that cleared that part of my problems. ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 07:09
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Hi Panos, The upgrade for the GB 40 is available since two Years. Now they have reduced the Price! I had just installed the IS 40. My old ones (IS20) shows dark Displays when the Sun heats the Displays! I was with the Instruments in a 5 Year time and so Simrad gave me a Rabatt on the new Instruments. They are working fine together with the SimNet and I am happy to be done that!  ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 07:14
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Hi Pearl, Will make a Photo and come back in the forum to see where I had installed the OP 40! ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 07:41
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Sailkoop, reduced price... What price do you have? I was quoted apr. 1200€ ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: Stephan Engman
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 22:01
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Hi Sorry for late answer. Panos: I just sent the computor to Netherland via the dealer in sweden for updating to NSO. Superliga: The OP40 in the saloon is not fixed, more convinient when you can sit where you want. OP40 in cockpit is fixed in angeld teakbox (home made) just under the screen. The place for the old OP I just covered with teak. I tried to make a cellphoneholder but my Samsung is to wide. ------------- Stephan Hanse 470e #199 |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 01 June 2013 at 07:43
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H i Pearl,
the Price I paid for the upgrade in the beginning of 2012 was € 2000.-! Now its around €1200.- Here is the Photo, where I had placed the OP 40.  Have a nice weekend  ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 05 June 2013 at 12:51
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Thanks for the picture. I have now orded the NSO upgrade. Will cost apr. 1000€ but then i get new charts as well and the new OP40 controller. My Op30 is quite worn. Look forward to try it. ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 06 June 2013 at 04:20
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Hi Pearl, sounds great. The card and one OP 40 is already in the the upgrade! You'll have a lot of fun with the new System, it's another world  ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 06 June 2013 at 09:07
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Sailkoop, Yes. Really looking forward to a more modern and stable system. Do you know if i can integrate a B&G Zeus Touch and run it as a "slave" using the waypoints, chartdata etc. from the NSO. If thats possible i would put the Zeus in the cockpit and the OP40 at the navigation table. If any one are interested in the upgrade I can inform that the charts in the NSO are Navionics Silver covering Europe. ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 06 June 2013 at 13:45
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Hi Pearl, No Information about that Mix! Also, I know nobody where I can asked for and get a reliable answer  Please, bring the Information in the Forum if you have the Answer! ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: panos
Date Posted: 06 June 2013 at 15:48
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Hi, Following upgrades and improvements were suggested by Simrad during recent visit to the boat: 1) upgrade of 2 X GB40 to NSO 2) 2 new consoles OP40 because the OP 20's are not compatible with NSO 3) upgrade of two wind instruments to IS40 because the IS 20's screen got destroyed by the sun 4) new tridata sensor since the existing (from 2008) does not show the boat speed 5) new Simrad RS82 handset because the old one got destroyed by humidity 6) new autopilot control unit. The "old one" has signs of humidity and possibly will not outlast the season. GREAT!  ------------- Panos Hanse 630e - selling her - |
Posted By: Eduard
Date Posted: 06 June 2013 at 18:51
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Hi Panos, Instead of upgrading to IS40 I would consider seriously upgrading to B&G Triton. With that instrument you can read apparent and true wind at the same time. ------------- Ed sy "Nimby" Hanse 342 #611 (2007); white hull, (one) wheel steering, Selden mast & boom, furlex 200S, deep draught, two cabins, traveller in cockpit, DSC VHF, inboard ap, B&G Zeus + Triton (2x) |
Posted By: panos
Date Posted: 06 June 2013 at 20:46
Hi, These two are twins. Only their mother can tell them apart. Just check them: http://www.bandg.com/en-GB/Product-Groups/Triton/ http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-US/Support/Downloads/IS40-software-update/ http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-US/Products/Instruments/IS40-Display-en-us.aspx ------------- Panos Hanse 630e - selling her - |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 06 June 2013 at 22:17
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Hi Panos, you are right on the Hardware Side, but the Software is different. So, if you'll have a bigger improvement you have to go to B&G. By the way, I change my IS 20 also to IS 40. The Reason wy I didn't go to B&G was, that I got a real good Discount on the IS 40, because I was in a 5 Year Period for this Products and Simrad have therefor a special Deal! ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 14 June 2013 at 15:55
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Sailkoop, I spoke to Simrad today. You can connect the ZEUS Touch with the NSO and the rest of your SIMNET. When connected you can share waypoints & routes. The chartography will only be shared if it comes from a externat micro SD chart. This means that your Navionics Silver will not be shared on the ZEUS. If you on the other hand buys Navionics Gold for say English channel on the ZEUS - the higher details of the gold charts will also be visible on your NSO unit for that area. Since you can buy the Zeus Touch with Navionics Silver EU chart for +£70 you could get the same cartography on both units fairly cheap. Via the Simnet, NMEA and Ethernet connections you will be able to acces all units connected to your NSO e.g. IS20, AP24 Etc. from both units. My plan is to put the OP40 with my 12" screen at the chart table and put the Zeus Touch at the cockpit table. Should get both units next week and will start to install...
------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 08:30
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Hi Pearl, sounds good and thanks for so much Information!! If you are looking to the SW-details of the B & G you have to think about the fact that more details for a Sailor will be provided by the Zeus Unit. May, you should change the Units that the Zeus is in the Cockpit!? I am happy if I can hear your first Experience in a few weeks!! ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: High Time
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 10:48
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Does anyone know if you can load the Zeus Touch software (available from the Simard website) into the NSS8? The hardware looks identical? ------------- Roger High Time (415 #038) |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 11:08
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Sailkoop, thats my plan. The Zeus unit in the cockpit and the rest below. Think I might go all the way and put a rader and a AIS transponder on the system as well since I am going to mess with the wires anyway. Can the NSO operate the autopilot? High Time, Just spoke to Simrad - they say NO. The NSS unit will not accept the Zeus software. But he never tried... So maybe you can. ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 11:10
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Hi Roger, yes, they are using the same hardware. Together with one Ownership they are working with one Platform and so they can reach a Price advantage which they are forwarding to the Customer. The difference between the two Brands are the details in the software. I believe, you'll find no way, to bring the B&G software on the Simrad Unit!  ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 11:13
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Hi Pearl, the NSO is operating with the AP! Don't forget to update the SW of the Autopilot computer!! By the Way I am using Weatherdoc AIS Class B and it's working fine.  ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 15:48
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Sailkoop, Thats great news about the NSO How do I upgrade the Autopilot computer? Do I have to send it in? ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: High Time
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 18:44
That's disappointing as the price of the NSS8 and Zeus Touch are the same and the hardware is (almost!) identical. There must be a small difference in the hardware that identifies whether it is an NSS8 or a Zeus. When I get home from our current cruise I will try it, just to satisfy myself. I don't think it will wreck the NSS8 as the software upodate mechanism is also identical. ------------- Roger High Time (415 #038) |
Posted By: High Time
Date Posted: 17 June 2013 at 18:47
Thanks for asking Simrad. As per my reply above I will try it just to make sure (but not while we are away sailing)! ------------- Roger High Time (415 #038) |
Posted By: sailkoop
Date Posted: 18 June 2013 at 08:18
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Hi Pearl, Two Opportunities you have: - over an interface connected on the Maincomputer (NSO or GB40) a Service tecnican can do that! - disassemble the AP 42 Computer from the Boat and send it to your Simrad Dealer! You have the Choise!!! ------------- best regards Bjoern |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 21 June 2013 at 08:37
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Sailkoop, thanks for the info. Will se if I can get Simrad to send me the software and do it myself. I am now waiting for my NSO unit and the Zeus touch wich I ordered with a WIFI unit. With a free B&G app you can control your Zeus Touch unit from a Ipad and get all info in the Ipad. I also added Radar and AIS transponder to the system for added safety - Planning to sail the boat down to the mediterranean sea next year and from there - who knows . Will post once I have the new system working and let you know how it works. ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: cwetto
Date Posted: 21 June 2013 at 10:52
I have plan to replace CX/DX44 with Touch, AIS and radar 4G. Your post are welcome :) Is it possible to use existing WiFi router for connection to Touch ? How can I connect Touch to local Eth? ------------- Cwetto Hanse 540e 2007, sailing Med |
Posted By: High Time
Date Posted: 21 June 2013 at 12:39
I have been looking into this and understand that the answer is yes - any commercial router will work. The Touch (same hardware as the NSS) has an ethernet connection (or 2 on the larger model) on the rear panel. You need a special cable that only Simrad/B&G can supply as the plug on the Touch/NSS is proprietary. Also, if you have radar, this connects to the Touch via the same ethernet connector so (if you only have one ethernet connector on the Touch) you will either need an ethernet combiner (Simrad can provide) or use 3 ports on the router. Note that in the latter case, you are introducing a possibly unreliable link (the router) in the radar connection, which could be safety issue. There is some useful info in this old thread here http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7284&KW=gofree&PN=1&title=installing-gofree-wifi1" rel="nofollow - http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7284&KW=gofree&PN=1&title=installing-gofree-wifi1
------------- Roger High Time (415 #038) |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 22 June 2013 at 22:33
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For those who like to make their own WIFI: http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-electronics-forum/500211-simrad-gofree-using-generic-wireless-router.html#b" rel="nofollow - here is a link explaining how they use a normal household wifi router. As they also point out - the normal ethernet connectors are not made for sea environment and may fail. ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: High Time
Date Posted: 23 June 2013 at 12:48
Useful link - thanks. It confirms what I have gleaned from elsewhere. Question is, do I want to cut my radar ethernet cable in half, crimp on 2 RJ45 connectors and plug both into the wifi router? For the time being, the answer is no. ------------- Roger High Time (415 #038) |
Posted By: superliga
Date Posted: 24 June 2013 at 19:16
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I just learned that with the GB40 or NSO you will nees a NEP-2 unit to split your ethernet on the boat. For my new WIFI, Radar, Zeus Touch and NSO I use 4 out of 5 available ports on the NEP-2 unit. So if you have the GB40 / NSO note that you only have one Ethernet slot on the system. Thank you High time for making me aware of the issue with Ethernet ports and investigate more so I could get the correct components. Would be a shame to have all the big boxes and no unit to connect it all  .I am told that only the lagre resellers have a configuration tool and can see directly what cables and boxes you need based on your components. Buying online at low prices as I do, you have to be aware yourself .Or use the Hanse forum  .As far as the homemade WIFI goes, you do not have to cut you radar cable. The article states you can order a cable that will fit a conventional RJ45 - from Simrad. ------------- PEARL - S/Y SUPERLIGA - HANSE 470 e - Hull #168 - hanse470.com |
Posted By: High Time
Date Posted: 25 June 2013 at 10:41
Hi I am aware of this (see previous threads on the subject) but in the UK the cables costs £40+ each and I would need 2 (one for radar and one for the NSS)! I can live without wifi connection (for now at least) as I already have an ActiSense NMEA2000 to USB converter at the Nav station connected to a laptop running NavMonPC and OpenCPN. If I really want to read the data from my bunk I could use the laptop connection to the wifi router and something like TeamViewer on my Nexus 7. ------------- Roger High Time (415 #038) |