- contemplating club racing at all?

- any thoughts to chartering it out?

- weekend cruising or weeks/months at a time?

- cruising with 1 or 2 people or a family?

- if you're a current sailboat owner, do you find yourself motoring a lot (don't like slow progress in low wind)

 

I'm sure there are many more questions I could ask but I'm not feeling very creative at the moment :)

 

Steve

thanks again

Welcome to the Forum.

It depends whether you want to do any fit out yourself or get it all done for you.

I took the approach that anything on the mast should be done by the yard or the dealer. Most of the electronics inside I did myself.

The first choice to make is probably the sail configuration. I went for the in-mast, just for the ease of stowage. If I was younger/fitter then I would go for the performance fully battened main and probably the gennaker and extra winches.

Radar, radar reflector, TV antenna and VHF aerial were fitted by the dealer. The Nav package was supplied by Hanse. The rest of the electronics I fitted myself. As a minimum you will need a VHF DSC radio and I would recommend an AIS receiver (or maybe a transponder if you want other folk to know where you are). Options (which I fitted) include TV and stereo and a battery monitor.

I would recommend the Cruising Pack which includes a second service battery, windlass, spring cleats etc. all of which are pretty essential. Ditto the Cruising Pack.

You won't need heating in the Med but you might consider aircon.

I guess a bimini is esential in the Med but you might be able to get a better deal from a local supplier. Ditto the sprayhood (maybe not required) and the cockpit cushions.

It is worth noting that some of the options on the standard pricelist are expensive - local supply could well be cheaper for simple 'bolt-on' extras. However, having everything provided through a single dealer makes life easy for the Buyer!

 

a) Full Simrad electronics package with WiFi ( ist really great )

b) VHF ( comes with AIS splitter ) fitted , you get an extra wireless handset with it

c) biggest engine available with folding prop ( doing 6+ knots at quiet 2000 rpm )

d) side entry and bow thruster

e) electric winches ( can you get your companion on board again with your manual winch ? )

f) Elvström FCL sails ( they are absolutely fantastic close hauled )

g) Teak in Cockpit, but not on decks it simply gets too hot in the Med

h) Cockpit cushions

i) Next season they will offer an additional fridge again in the cockpit (take it, the standard 2 door fridge is not powerful enough for the med climate ! )

j) We took the gennaker package ex works.

k) the Fusion 600 entertainment package

l) the big inverter ( can operate a Nespresso machine )

 

My mistake was that I ordered all canvas ex Yard, the quality of the tissue is lousy , it simpl does not fit. The design is plain stupid. Do this locally, then they can fix any snags quickly. You can also specify the best material for UV resistance ( Sunbrella ). Specify also side shades which you can attach to the bimini.

 

In Mast Furling or Lazy jacks is a matter of personal preference. We went for FCL with batten cars and it works great.

 

Do you really need a radar in the med when you have an active AIS ? I would also go for aircon which you can switch to heating if necessary. If you can fit a generator, do this. You have redundancy to charge your batteries ( take the biggest offered ex works )

 

Remember that Hanse are great boats offering excellent value for money. Their disadvantage is that adding gear afterwards is an arduous task.

 

To add to what goes above.

 

We had Inspiration sort out our spray hood, with extra covers for the clears.  It fits well and you can still operate the forward winches (which you cant with the factory one) so I agree sort out your canvas locally.

 

The FCL main looks lovely and is a great sail, the delivery crew were complimentary too. 

 

I also went with white decks with teak in the cockpit (came with one of the packages, I have cruising and performance)

 

I went for the furlstrom, in my case quite a flat one so I can get to 80 degrees true with it up, Its a very easy sail to manage with just 2 on board and definately recommended.

 

I got a whisker pole too, because the jib collapses on anything close to a run and there will be times when the asymmetric is too big.

 

We chose the big plotter (old eyesight) and AIS, but no radar and I didn't feel I missed it even in the channel.  And we had the wifi.

 

Still dont know if we made the right choice on aircon (none fitted) I didn't want the weight of it or the gennerator, and the pipes take up loads of stotage.  Ask me in a year.

 

Good luck

 

Mark

 

- I have a light blue hull (gel coat). Being gel coat instead of paint it wasn't supposed to fade. It does - oxidizes very quickly. I'd likely just go with white next time

- teak only in the cockpit

- standard engine with a 3 blade folding prop

- the battery capacity is not great so I'd try to stay away from heavy loads like Air Con

- performance package basic looks pretty good, a sail upgrade and getting an overlapping genoa and gennaker are good ideas

- upgrading to the Zeus plotter is a great idea. If you like to "tinker" then WiFi is an idea but not sure if it's truly useful

- agree that a local supplier for canvas work (dodger, bimini, etc) is a good way to go

 

Good luck!

 

you never operate the aircon off the battery bank, its either gennie or shore power.   Your remarks about the UV resistance are right in UV intensive areas. However even a white hull needs a protective anti UV waxing once or twice per season.

 

The wifi is a a luxury, however if you are in bad weather inside the cabin it allows you to check true wind speed and direction and its cheaper than an additional IS 40 ( if you have a smart phone/tablet anway )

 

Frank

 

We have not opted for a coloured hull for the following reasons:

 

a) Colors will fade, regardless what the sales guys tell you. This is accelerated if you keep your boat constantly moored with the same direction to the sun. White Hulls just need a protective waxing every year to keep the gloss. White is based on Titaniumdioxyde pigments which are the optimum for UV resistance

 

b) Repair on a coloured hull will always be visible, everyboat yard can fix scratches on a white hull into perfect surfaces again.

 

Good Luck and Fair Winds

 

Frank