445 becomes a 455
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Topic: 445 becomes a 455
Posted By: Rapetitio
Subject: 445 becomes a 455
Date Posted: 09 September 2014 at 14:15
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Dear all, enclosed please find some impressions from the brandnew 455 - as shown in Amsterdam last week - it is #1. More Pictures are already published by German Yacht-online: http://www.yacht.de/yachten_jollen/neue_boote/hiswa-premieren-i-hanse-455/a91231.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.yacht.de/yachten_jollen/neue_boote/hiswa-premieren-i-hanse-455/a91231.html  ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
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Posted By: Rapetitio
Date Posted: 09 September 2014 at 14:21
and from the inside:   ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
Posted By: carlov
Date Posted: 16 September 2014 at 10:40
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Looks like a nice boat. My Hanse 455 is N. 18. I am looking forward to see her when she will be delivered to Antibes (hopefully in a few weeks). I am on the way to separate myself from my Hanse 400e, lauched 8 years ago. A very good boat indeed. ------------- sailing may be funny |
Posted By: Rapetitio
Date Posted: 21 October 2014 at 13:50
 I have been to Greifswald yesterday... Your Boat (#18) is under construction - I have seen it! Nice boat! BR Ralph ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
Posted By: Rapetitio
Date Posted: 08 November 2014 at 11:11
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRUtdt855cY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRUtdt855cY the Video is online on Hanse's Website and YouTube... enjoy! ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
Posted By: Nerthuz
Date Posted: 25 January 2015 at 00:01
| I will pick up my 455#045 in the middle of May, looking forward to that day 😄 |
Posted By: nu2hanse
Date Posted: 25 January 2015 at 15:14
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I ordered my 455 10 weeks ago but still have no date for delivery :-( ------------- Trying to make good things happen |
Posted By: Rapetitio
Date Posted: 25 January 2015 at 15:41
I have ordered my 455 during the Hanseboot in Hamburg (10/2014) and so far the yard told me: April/May 2015. I am just back from Düsseldorf and I have been told that most probalely during next 2 weeks they can foresee the date of delivery more precisely. I will be patient, since I am not in a hurry... Looking forward to hear about your first expieriences... Best Regards ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
Posted By: nu2hanse
Date Posted: 25 January 2015 at 15:50
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I have ordered my 455 during the Hanseboot in Hamburg (20/2014) and so far the yard told me: April/May 2015. I am just back from Düsseldorf and I have been told that most probalely during next 2 weeks they can foresee the date of delivery more precisely. I will be patient, since I am not in a hurry... Looking forward to hear about your first expieriences... I shall be patient....happily I already have a very good yacht. Just thought that with an order in house for 10 weeks a date could be advised ! .......Look forward to hearing your experiences too! ------------- Trying to make good things happen |
Posted By: Rapetitio
Date Posted: 20 February 2015 at 21:58
 Hi Just received information regarding date of delivery. It was agreed on April/May in the contract, but today the yard told me end of June (!). Wow this will be a long period of being patient and pleasant anticipation... Hope they realize that I cannot wait that long!Will keep you updated! By the way anybody around here who already received a brand-new 455? I am curious to learn about your experiences.  Best Ralph ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
Posted By: bozzello
Date Posted: 25 February 2015 at 13:58
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Such a beautiful, elegant and confortable boat! But, as for a first sight, I don't like the battery case together with the engine and the stopper rear from the photo seems to be too near the winch, not having the ropes the right angle. Cheers Diego ------------- Diego |
Posted By: bozzello
Date Posted: 26 February 2015 at 11:34
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(photos from the link with "Yacht.de") ------------- Diego |
Posted By: GUHaus
Date Posted: 15 March 2015 at 20:42
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Hi to all, I am happy to report the arrival of Hull #19 to NEB in December. We are very excited about the boat, and are looking forward to her launch. I am new to the forum, and would like to share some photos, but also have some questions to ask, opinions to obtain... There was a video posted with the 455 (brief shots of the boat) from the Boston Boat Show on Boston.com. http://www.boston.com/travel/boston/2015/02/19/need-winter-getaway-the-new-england-boat-show-has-plenty-picks/s3xeI4tpFJAyDNQXXs15aM/story.html Currently we are wrestling with the concept of davits for a dinghy. The rear transom/ swim platform is about 9 ft wide, making the davit placement a challenge. Any ideas that have worked on other models? Will post some more pictures when I figure out how to use the system better. Cheers
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Posted By: GUHaus
Date Posted: 15 March 2015 at 20:47
------------- When in doubt go sailing |
Posted By: Samtutuki
Date Posted: 15 March 2015 at 22:26
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Any ideas that have worked on other models? I have a 445 which is a little under a year old and I am also wrestling with how to carry my 2.6m RIB. Others on this forum suggest storing it on the foredeck but this is not quite so easy to do when sailing single handed which is most of the time for me. As you have recognised the size (width) of the swim platform make positioning davits awkward unless you have a much longer (and heavier) dinghy. For my dinghy the davits should be about 1400 mm apart which is not practical on a 445 (or 455 I guess). I have been doodling with a concept that involves hanging a bracket off the stowed swim platform to carry the dinghy vertically and attach a sketch of what I have so far. There will be a few more iterations before I commit to manufacturing a prototype with my local stainless steel fabricator. The key I think is to use the swim ladder socket to secure the brackets on place without having to make any other attachments to the boat. I have purchased an additional swim ladder socket that will be placed in the platform for the second bracket. I hope this is all understandable!! But if not drop me a line and we can discuss.  |
Posted By: GUHaus
Date Posted: 16 March 2015 at 02:59
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Samtutuki, I have been looking at a number of options. There is a good product that I found on line that has a very similar approach to your drawling. Check out snap davit at http://www.snapdavit.co.uk My concerns for their approach are the ability of the dinghy and the transom of the Hanse to merge correctly. Also what happens with the boat at heal, will the dinghy be in trouble? There was some information about a product on that web site for dealing with your engine that turns the engine to keep it mounted with the boat tilted.... I have been also looking at more traditional davit systems. The main problem that I have encountered is the distance between the mounting points for the davits. As you noted the distance for the transom door is quite large ~ ~ 108" (2743 mm) so the lifting points would be very wide. my Rib is 128" (3251 mm) and the distance between the lifting points is 91" (2311 mm) so that is slightly better for the davits than you describe. The work around that most people seem to take is a "lifting bar" which hangs from the davits, and then allows a secondary (narrower) attachment point to the dinghy. Kato has a davit that can toe inward, but the stern rail would need to be reinforced. Still trying to work out what that reinforcement would entail. Possibly jumper from the stern rail to the fiberglass. Also not sure just how much extension from the transom of the boat would be lost by toeing the davits inward. http://www.katomarine.com/saildavits-island.htm Another interesting option would be the Edson Marine davits. The davits that they sell could be mounted flush on the vertical transom with a mounting shoe. This would allow rapid removal of the davits if desired. http://www.edsonmarine.com/marinestore/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=88 I am currently scratching my head, trying to figure this out. I would like to be able to hoist my 108 lb/ 49kg dinghy, with 97 lb/ 44 lb engine and 3 gallon/ 19 lb/ 8.5 kg gas tank, without taking the engine off each time. I really appreciate what you have shown me, and will try to share the next several days worth of work with you on this davit issue. Derek ------------- When in doubt go sailing |
Posted By: Samtutuki
Date Posted: 16 March 2015 at 10:35
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I note your dinghy is much heavier than mine. Mine is only 30kg and I do not intend to leave the engine on it regardless of the eventual storage method. Your links are interesting thanks. I have also looked at these :http://www.cooneymarine.co.uk/pages/davits-swivelling-75.html And Plastimo also have an interesting solution: http://www.plastimo.com My dinghy is no ;longer than the width of the swim platform so I do not anticipate and problems with it dragging in the water when the vessel is heeled. Also I am rather keen to keep the dinghy mass as low and as far forward as possible.Of course it is also necessary to secure the dinghy to the davits when underway to prevent unwanted movement. For all these reasons I am interested in the arrangement I have shown above. I would be very happy to hear from anyone who has had a good or bad experience with a similar set up. |
Posted By: Rapetitio
Date Posted: 08 May 2015 at 10:32
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Does anybody here can
report about his/hers experiences with the new Hanse 455? Meanwhile there
should be some in the water... ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
Posted By: Nerthuz
Date Posted: 08 May 2015 at 20:53
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Hi Rapetitio. I will have my 455#045 delivered in Greifswald thursday next week, and then sail the boat back to Norway, some 340 nm. The contract was signed October last year with my norwegian dealer. |
Posted By: Rapetitio
Date Posted: 08 May 2015 at 21:40
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Hi Nerthuz Cool!  I hope you will have a successful delivery and always fun with your new Hanse! I am curious to hear about your expieriences and to even see some pics.... Fair winds! ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
Posted By: 455guy
Date Posted: 09 May 2015 at 17:01
| Do the boats not get build in the order of their hull #? I was told August 1st for mine #80. |
Posted By: Rapetitio
Date Posted: 09 May 2015 at 17:25
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Good Question! During my last visit in Greifswald we have seen #26, #51 and #56. This was March 21st. I have been told "maybe end of June". It seems to me that there is no correlation between s/n and order. But I have no clue how the yard orders its production - guess there is a system... Does anybody knows more? ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
Posted By: gertha
Date Posted: 09 May 2015 at 19:23
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Hanse have never made there boats in an order that makes sense to the number you receive when ordering. Through the years many people have asked the same question. I suspect that the dealers with the best looking staff get priority over dealers with ugly people working for them. The other option is they run a lottery in the factory and every week they bet on which boat they are going to build next. Always thought that the Germans were ordered and regimented; however the factory is close to Poland and those guys know how to joke around. So it could be all one big joke and you will never know when your boat is to be delivered. What ever happens it will all be good fun and a great blast when you get on the water with a pretty new boat. Simon |
Posted By: 455guy
Date Posted: 10 May 2015 at 05:19
| I sea says the blind fish, so instead of sailing out of the baltic in august looking at the harvest moon I may be dodging icebergs in December........ |
Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 10 May 2015 at 06:32
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I have heard that S/N is assigned when the yard has received the order from the dealers. The production planning process (which defines the delivery date) starts when the yard has received the 1st downpayment from the dealer. As far as I know the yard does not slot in "white tails" due to the high customization in order to minimize working capital requirements. They only start production planning with a) and b) with a definite configuration. S ome boats may have been prefinanced by the dealer. In 2013 we had hull no 80and no 56 was two manufacturing bays behind us. ------------- Frank |
Posted By: Rapetitio
Date Posted: 21 May 2015 at 18:35
Hi Nerthuz Hope you had a safe trip back to Norway? Maybe you can give some insights on your expieriences made during take over and first miles sailed with your new boat... Guess, some of us are quite curious My boat will be delivered first week of July  Best Regards ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
Nerthuz wrote:Posted By: Richard M
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 17:41
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Dear all I'm very interested in any views on the H 455. I currently have a 2007 H 400e (which I've been delighted with) and would like to hear about owner's views on the H 455 - and not least Carlov's and any other former H 400 owners thoughts on the differences between the H 400 and the H 455. Has anyone specified in mast furling? Any opinions on this? And has anyone had any experience of (Hanse's) leather upholstery option? Finally, are there any "must consider" options for the 455? Many thanks Richard M ------------- Richard M (S/Y BrightStar - H 455 #90; ex S/Y Providence - H 400e #290) |
Posted By: Nerthuz
Date Posted: 04 June 2015 at 19:42
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I left Greifswald with my 455 on May 20th, heading for Norway, some 350 nm. We spent 5 days in the boat, before arrival. I am happy with the sailing experience, the boat has FCL sails and furling main. Quite easy to handle. Sailing speed hits 8-9 knops with no problem. With double thrusters harbour manouvers is easy. Max speed with the 75 hp engine was 9,5 knots. Conclusion: I am happy - and so is my wife 😄 |
Posted By: GUHaus
Date Posted: 09 June 2015 at 03:01
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Richard, We have been sailing our Hanse 455 in Narraganset Bay, RI for the past month. Absolutely love the boat handling. She has great responsiveness at the helm, and really holds her angles nicely in a puff.
We opted for a stack pack on a fully battened mainsail, self tacking jib, and smaller asymmetrical spinnaker. She does appear to move very true to her "Speed Guide" in terms of knots. our upgrade options that I am very happy with. 1) Upgraded the bedding, and it is comfortable. Went with a mid grade fabric if I recall, not leather. 2) Ultra anchor package, we loved our Ultra anchor on our old boat, the upgrade with 100m of stainless chain was easy for us. 3) B&G upgrade has very good electronics package at your fingertips while at the helm. 4) upgraded engine, 72 hp has great stopping power. 8+ knots at 2000 rpm. But the upgrade that we are most in love with: griddle in the cockpit! Derek  ------------- When in doubt go sailing |
Posted By: bovine
Date Posted: 09 June 2015 at 05:38
| Hi doesn't that course grease stains on the teak |
Posted By: GUHaus
Date Posted: 09 June 2015 at 10:39
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There is a good metal lip around the griddle which is set down into the seat. Also has a grease trap that drains off for easy collection in one corner. The griddle is a nonstick for easy cleaning and you have a great platform to cook from. The sink in the port seat makes clean up easily accessible. ------------- When in doubt go sailing |
Posted By: Rapetitio
Date Posted: 09 June 2015 at 18:10
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Good to see that you guys have a lot of fun with the boat! Congrats and always fair winds! Mine will now be ready for pick-up at Greifswald in 4 weeks! ------------- Born to sail, forced to work! |
Posted By: Richard M
Date Posted: 14 June 2015 at 23:13
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Hi Derek Thanks for this. Nice photo! I see what you mean about the griddle. I know Narraganset Bay well having been there many times over the last 20+ years. I used to work for the Cookson Group (now demerged into Alent & Vesuvius) and we had a training centre at Lillymere Farms, Tower Hill Road, Saunderstown. I've also sailed out of Newport a few times. Very happy memories. I've since retired...and the facility sold. Great to hear of your experience. I'm going for in-mast furling this time. Can I ask why you upgraded the engine? Did you try the standard size? Best wishes Richard ------------- Richard M (S/Y BrightStar - H 455 #90; ex S/Y Providence - H 400e #290) |
Posted By: Richard M
Date Posted: 14 June 2015 at 23:21
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Hi Derek For some reason I'm not being allowed to reply (some sort of "Spam" control!) but I'll persevere. Thanks for the response. A very nice photo - assume your #1 crew member! And I see what you mean about the griddle. I know Narraganset Bay very well. For many years I used to visit my company's (Cookson Group - since demerged into Alent & Vesuvius) management centre at Lillymere Farms, Tower Hill Road, Saunderstown. And I've sailed out of Newport a few times. You have a great sailing area - but a rather short season for most. I'm probably going for in mast furling for ease of handling (I'm now retired). Did you try the standard size engine? Best wishes Richard ------------- Richard M (S/Y BrightStar - H 455 #90; ex S/Y Providence - H 400e #290) |
Posted By: GUHaus
Date Posted: 15 June 2015 at 04:26
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We did not get a chance to try the standard size versus the upgrade hp model. However, our philosophy was the increased power with a three blade feathering propeller will get us out of trouble. This approach has proved to be very true. The ability to maneuver the boat has been excellent with the upgraded engine. Although, I do not have a direct side-by-side comparison. ------------- When in doubt go sailing |
Posted By: andkedr
Date Posted: 29 February 2016 at 17:15
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Hello all. I am new at that forum and only thinking about buying Hans 455. Looking for detail about that yacht and one (or few) question is not still clear for me: where the cockpit locker entrance is? Not lazaret under berth but aft locker to go inside. And where the gas bottle is situated. Thank you.
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Posted By: GUHaus
Date Posted: 01 March 2016 at 02:08
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There are two cockpit storage areas that are under the starboard and port seats in the cockpit. They are fairly large and for us hold the swim ladder, dock lines, the shore power cord on the starboard. On port we store fishing gear, cleaners, a bell, emergency signaling gear. On the stern there is more storage. There are two "pedestals" one port and one starboard. They are topped with seating and are just behind the wheels. The Port pedestal has an open space in the back that would allow for a emergency life raft. The top of the pedestal has a shower/ sink combination under the "seat" which lifts up on a hinge. The Starboard pedestal has the propane/LNG locker, and on top we opted for the grill option under the "seat: which lifts up on a hing. You can get to the under side of the stern area by removing a panel in both the port and starboard cabins. I will try to include a picture  Hope this helps- Derek p.s. Don't forget the storage in the bow! There is a 6 foot + deep storage area in the bow accessed by a hatch on deck. On a typical week cruise we store the following: 1) 6 x bumpers 2) 2 x inflatable paddle boards 3) Dog ladder 4) wash down hose 5) snubber 6) UPS Sail (spinnaker) oh, and a.... 16 foot inflatable catamaran with rigging.... It is a big locker!!!
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Posted By: andkedr
Date Posted: 01 March 2016 at 08:28
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Hello Derek, Thank you very much for your answer! As far I understand to check wheels/helm (chains) mechanics, you need to go aft cabins. It is not possible to come inside from cockpit. We are planing to order generator. Do you have it too? Where it was placed? The grill is placed on top of Gas is it correct? Once again, thank you. BR Andrey.
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Posted By: GUHaus
Date Posted: 01 March 2016 at 11:03
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To get to the mechanicals of the steering system, did you have to go through the aft cabin's however there is a plate on deck that you removed to allow the emergency tiller. The generator sits on top of the engine or in between the aft births is my understanding. We did not opt for a generator. From other readers, it does sound harder to retrofit. The griddle does sit on top of the propane on the starboard side. You can see the hatch for the propane/LNG on the picture I posted. For us, the built-in griddle takes care of the huge problem of trying to store a portable grill that we would clamp on the back and then take off to sail. The seat cover is about 2 inches thick and hinges outboard on both the griddle, and on the port side the sink/shower. Hope this helps ------------- When in doubt go sailing |
Posted By: Nerthuz
Date Posted: 01 March 2016 at 19:55
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Talking about generators in 455, my dealer installed an EFOY fuel cell charger in the generator room, and I am very happy with that solution. |
Posted By: andkedr
Date Posted: 01 March 2016 at 20:49
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Derek, thank you much for detail info! That was very helpful. Concerning fuel cell. I have thought about it. But the price is close to generator if you consider to buy powerful enough to make sense. Other contra is, you have take on board big enough volume of very inflammable liquid. So, my opinion is the diesel generator would be better. Only on minus, you need to find additional space for that.
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Posted By: Doyle
Date Posted: 13 March 2016 at 23:38
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Hi Derek, We take delivery of our new 455 in later April. So excited and very pleased (& relieved) to hear your positive feedback on the factory fitted BBQ! I'm keen to learn the final outcome with your tender. Did you have a custom mount built? I'd like to avoid cluttering the deck and currently looking for options. Thanks. Cheers, Liza. ------------- L & M Doyle Sydney, Australia |
Posted By: GUHaus
Date Posted: 14 March 2016 at 01:07
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Congratulations on the new boat! We are thrilled with our boat. We have not found a great solution to the tender at this time. For now we have just been using a bridal off the two stern cleats and have done well enough to hold tight for now. Let me know any thoughts that you have with your new boat! Fair winds- Derek ------------- When in doubt go sailing |
Posted By: Doyle
Date Posted: 17 March 2016 at 10:54
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Thanks Derek. I'll be in touch and let you know how we go - I've just seen a similar post from Johny a couple of days ago. To be honest, I'm keen to go with something that fits in the forward sail locker, but torn between having to inflate it given we'll be spend lots of time in Sydney harbour. Ahhh, not bad problems to have :-) Cheers, Liza. ------------- L & M Doyle Sydney, Australia |