Channel Islands Meeting 2015
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Topic: Channel Islands Meeting 2015
Posted By: CharlesP
Subject: Channel Islands Meeting 2015
Date Posted: 24 February 2015 at 15:03
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Following on from Samuel's suggestion, I've immediately started this topic and would like to invite as many Hanses as possible to join Samuel in St Peter Port, Channel Islands, to partake and relieve him of his Lidl Malt, in the Mother of all pontoon Parties. My present thinking is to be there around the final week of June and I expect to go via Cherbourg to pick up some Malt for when Samuel's half bottle has gone. Can you join us? Any suggestions from anyone? Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
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Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 24 February 2015 at 15:19
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Just posted this in the "old " thread: Hey seems this year will be a hanse meeting in St. Peters Port. We will be there in Juli, hopefully some hanse sailors are left over by than..... I still have a bottle glenfiddich left over......Hopefully nobody will drink it until than.  ------------- Blake 370 
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Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 24 February 2015 at 18:04
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Well If i am not there my wife & daughter will have to sleep rough because they have booked the flights & I shall be in real trouble I am up for 23rd to end of june I just hope Lidle do another cheap deal before i go ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 24 February 2015 at 22:40
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All noted..... I will start planning , have informed the boss, and it seems as if it's at her usual holiday period.... Dave ------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp) 
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Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 25 February 2015 at 04:19
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we will also be there in july , all depends on the weather , but plans are there. we will leavve Holland around 18 july gr Marcel ------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: Peter Russell
Date Posted: 25 February 2015 at 07:54
I was thinking of a cross channel trip to the Channel Islands around that time this year so hopefully I'll be there  ------------- Peter Russell Hanse 370 hull 499 "Outnumbered" http://outnumbered.the-russells.net" rel="nofollow - http://outnumbered.the-russells.net |
Posted By: Peter-Blake
Date Posted: 25 February 2015 at 08:08
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BTW: i am just starting to collect some information about the islands. Please post links if you have them. Any suggestion for a good nautical book except the reeds? here are some i have found so far: http://www.visitchannelislands.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.visitchannelislands.com/ http://www.beaucettemarina.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.beaucettemarina.com/ http://www.jimbsail.info/tidal-europe/channel/channel-isles-france" rel="nofollow - http://www.jimbsail.info/tidal-europe/channel/channel-isles-france http://www.guernseyharbours.gov.gg/article/4614/Marinas--Moorings" rel="nofollow - http://www.guernseyharbours.gov.gg/article/4614/Marinas--Moorings ------------- Blake 370
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Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 25 February 2015 at 09:41
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I think Beaucette marina is a bit remote to the town centre & one has to pass through a slightly industrial area to get to the town centre so I admit I have never tried it. The main marina near the town centre ( Victoria I think)has been said to be noisy because of boy racers speeding up & down the main road but I think that has been stopped Also various events take place which adds to the atmosphere, ie harbour sports, manned unpowered flights off the dock wall, plastic duck racing( great for the grandson), wet T shirt dinghy paddling ( great for the men!!) & even a bike race around the harbour & island. & of course SWMBO can access the shops more easily whilst the male members can enjoy the pubs & club If sailing the area St Helier is more commercial, St Malo is worth a visit & good for walks etc & Granville is nice if you can get a berth ok. Lezardrieux is really beautiful as the sun rises & I am told Treguier is similar. I am not into anchoring but am told some of the anchorages are good .All in all a great place to sail with a few challenging tides & navigation capped by interesting destinations I used the Imray pilot of the area which I found Ok & the Tom Cunliffe Channel Pilot has some info & is possibly more use to those cruising the whole Channel area
------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: Eduard
Date Posted: 01 March 2015 at 22:57
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We also are planning our trip to the Channel Islands starting as of July 18, 2015, out of the south of the Netherlands. ------------- Ed sy "Nimby" Hanse 342 #611 (2007); white hull, (one) wheel steering, Selden mast & boom, furlex 200S, deep draught, two cabins, traveller in cockpit, DSC VHF, inboard ap, B&G Zeus + Triton (2x) |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 19 April 2015 at 13:03
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A good nautical book for the area is, North Brittany And Channel Islands Cruising Companion, by Peter Cumberlidge. Alderney (Braye Harbour) is worth a visit as long as the wind is not from the NE. There often seems to be a swell in this harbour when we visit, but it does not bother us; just ensure you have a couple of good lines attached to the visitors buoys because of chafe from the swell which also rebounds off the harbour wall. It is a small and quaint place and very friendly, with spectacular coastal walks. From Cherbourg, it is an easy 4 to 5 hour sail, but choose the correct time to leave Cherbourg Fort de l'Ouest which is about 4.5 hours before HW Dover. (If going down the Race to Jersey, leave Cherbourg at 3.5 hours before HW Dover.) At these times, there is supposed to be a favourable west-going eddy close inshore between Cherbourg and Cap de la Hague, but I have yet to find it. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 19 April 2015 at 16:50
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Re the west going eddy from Cherbourg I once did the trip in very windy weather. The trip through the race was somewhat worrying as we went a bit near Cap de laHague & the seas tend to curl like a breaking wave on the beach. 4 metre waves like these can easily roll a 311 However, it was very rough in the inshore bit between Cap de la Hague & Cherbourg & inspite of the tidal advantage I saw a bigger yacht further off shore & that did not have anything like our seas inshore. From being inshore we then failed to get far enough out past Cap de la Hague. So much so that we turned back due to the curling waves. I stood on the deck & watched the other yacht & saw it was having a better passage further offshore. My crew were close to mutiny but I had another go but got further offshore before turning through the race. So if using the inshore passage remember it can be rougher & lead one to turning through the race too quickly. I imagine one might do this if going to Jersey instead of Guernsey I was told not to do the race over F5 & it was a good F6 so the second time we attempted it we motored & just pointed into the breaking waves at 2-3 kts & let the tide carry us through the race sideways but head to the breaking waves. Side ways on we would have been rolled for sure ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 19 April 2015 at 17:58
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You certainly like to live dangerously, Sam. I would prefer to enjoy the delights of Cherbourg until a friendly F3 or 4 came along. My recollection is also of rough waves inshore. Have you been to Jersey in recent years. I've never sailed there, so wonder what the marinas are like. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 19 April 2015 at 18:22
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Last went 2012 Personally I am not a fan of the more commercial aspect of St Helier although a trip on the bus across the flooded causway to the castle is a good day out. They do a good talk on how to load and fire a cannon that must not be missed, if only to get showered in burning wadding The harbour is Ok, you motor in through a lot of rocks etc & moor up on the waiting pontoon. The harbour masters go through all the pre tie up bits. when I went last I was waiting with a couple of boats from Benfleet YC. I was worried about there being room as quite a few boats turned up but the harbour master assured me that they have had 100 boats to get in at one time & manage it. I had copper coat antifoul so needed slipping & cleaning mid season ( I lay up in the winter as well !!!) I went ( quite a long walk but worth it) to the YC & on enquireis I was put in touch with the retired RNLI coxswain - Billie Hibbs- who arranged a 1 hour haul out & jet wash for £ 180-00. Seemed odd being taken on the travel lift up the road for the washing area So worth a look & friendly people esp in the YC ,but not as good as St Peter Port You have to wait for water depth over the cill to leave. it can be very rough off pointe de Corbiere ( think that is the name) my daughter wanted to go back & get the ferry-!!!! I have also done St Malo from there & Granville is worth a visit ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 20 April 2015 at 11:05
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thanks you guys for the heads up on these things.... Much appreciated. Dave ------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 20 April 2015 at 12:40
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Dave do you know what dates you will be there yet? My wife & daughter have booked flights to Guernsey 18Th - 22nd ( for birthday hols) I will hang around for a couple of days after . Then hope to nip to Camaret for another look ( went there in 2004) Then I will be coming back via st PP or St Hellier last week in July in time to get to Ostende for the Paulusfestein 08 August Camaret depends on weather but want to do leizardrieu for certain ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 20 April 2015 at 14:11
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Samual, I cannot give you exact dates, as I am in the hands of a repair yard, DD is looking at coming out of the water for some gel coat repairs beginning of May for two weeks, but you know boat yards..... 2 weeks to them could easily be 3-4 weeks. The idea is to be on my Barmouth mooring middle of May and check her out and set of towards the end of May south, calling into Lundy, the Scillies then along the South Coast then a hope across so I would think towards the middle of July or so. Dave ------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 20 April 2015 at 18:16
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Dave I thought you had considered moving to Isle of Mann Have you given up on that idea ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: gizmo
Date Posted: 20 April 2015 at 21:07
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Just a point to look at with deep keel Hanse's the main marina in St Peter Port has a depth of 1.5 mts in most parts of the marina. Unless it has been dredged recently ?? The open harbour has walk ashore pontoons but gets noisy with ferries coming in and out. After a bad experience there we go to Beaucette its only £1 for an all day bus ticket to anywhere in the island. Its also knocks an hour of our sail time from Salcombe by entering via the Doyle passage. Ken ------------- Ken 430e # 161 UK |
Posted By: Peter Russell
Date Posted: 21 April 2015 at 20:15
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Re: Depth in SPP The conversation with the harbourmaster went something like "... how deep are you? 2m. OK no problems raft up here..."  As the photo shows the harbourmaster was more than a little apologetic the following morning. I saw the funny side and no harm done  ------------- Peter Russell Hanse 370 hull 499 "Outnumbered" http://outnumbered.the-russells.net" rel="nofollow - http://outnumbered.the-russells.net |
Posted By: gizmo
Date Posted: 22 April 2015 at 22:13
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Same here but I was not on my boat, woke up heeled with a another boat rafted and both of us leaning on a Halberg Rassy Could have been worse!! Don't believe the harbour master Ken ------------- Ken 430e # 161 UK |
Posted By: GrainDeSel
Date Posted: 22 April 2015 at 22:30
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Hello all my boat a H385 is moored in the port of Perros Guirec in Brittany . I often go to Guernsey but I will not go into Victoiria marina .I stay on the exterior pontoons who are connected to earth in summer or so I 'm going (with the harbor master authorization) in Queen Elisabeth II marina. In june i will be in south of brittany but in july perphaps in channel Islands Best regards Jean marie ------------- Best regards Jean-Marie H385#139 june 2012 |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 27 May 2015 at 09:55
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A new pilot book has just been published which I have bought and it seems to be excellent. It's called "Channel Islands, Cherbourg Peninsular & North Brittany" by Peter Carnegie. I bought it discounted 10% from sailingbooks.co.uk. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: Scotchmist
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 13:19
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Hello all We're currently planning the Channel Isles trip for August 1st - 12th, so if it's not too late for the pontoon party, we'll aim to be there. ------------- Andrew Scotch Mischief Dehler 38 by Hanse |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 13:33
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I am leaving for the Channel islands on Wednesday ( subject to my daughter getting the all clear on Tuesday from her surgeon following a serious illness) I will be single handed but I cannot leave not knowing her state of health. Plan is to go via French coast & I intend to be in St Peter Port by 17 June until 24Th. Then I am off to Camaret then back to St PP end of July on my way to Ostende for the Paulusfestein on 08 August So hopefully I can get sociable long enough to relieve some poor unsuspecting Hanse owner of his whiskey before they know it ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 14:59
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So might we see you in Dover Wednesday evening? Unfortunately, not on our boat as it will still be in Medway until the following week, but I don't mind driving to yours to show you how to open your old and dusty Lidl. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 17:56
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Charles Plan is to go straight to Boulogne assuming wind Ok. Forecast says it will be. Will be passing Dover about 20-00 -21-00 hours so will not be there until very late if I do actually stop there Sorry ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 19:00
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How is Boulogne? Haven't been for a few years. One of my possibilities is to go there and then on to Dieppe, then over to Cherbourg - how long would the Dieppe/Cherbourg leg be? Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 20:04
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Charles I did a 5 day test sail 2 weeks ago after my boat was launched to Boulogne Dover & Ramsgate. As luck would have it there was a public holiday & everywhere was shut !!! However, as it warms up the beach will have loads of land yachts, The dockside markets will open & the cafes in the old town will open up. After Boulogne it will be Dieppe - which is quite nice. I like to stroll up the high street & get a few beers in the street side cafes. Then I go the 50 miles to le Havre. I could stop off at Fecamp or go a bit further & cross the Sein & go to Honfleur. I have always meant to do that but somehow never get the time. i also fancy going in to Ouistreham past the Pegasus bridge & 6 miles up the canal to Caen. I might go on the way back if I have time From Le Havre I go to Cherbourg - about 75 miles. I do these ports because they are all 24 hour entry & that is important being single handed. i do not want to anchor or stand off if things get rough. Fecamp, Ouisterham & Honfleur need a carefully timed entry. Dieppe to Cherbourg is 109 miles but the shipping going into the Sein make that crossing a bit difficult for me as strict watch keeping is imperative ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 20:20
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Sam, on reflection, I think I should go on to Le Havre and then to Cherbourg. Thanks for the info. However, I have never been into Le Havre, having always opted to bypass it in favour of the country delights of Ouistram. It looks easy enough though. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 01 June 2015 at 06:35
So is Ouistreham worth a visit & have you been up to Caen. ? ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
CharlesP wrote:Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 01 June 2015 at 09:59
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We like Ouistreham which is a smallish marina set amongst the trees, with a friendly harbourmaster who has given us a bag on each of our two visits. There is a waiting pontoon seaward of the sea locks. Fuel is available from self service machines, but the H/M will help as when we were last there, our credit card would not work it. Pegasus Bridge is about an hours walk along the canal. A short walk from the marina around the lock area are a few shops, bars, small market and two large wine merchants. The village has been beautifully rebuilt, having been flattened during the war, and lies on the opposite bank to the marina and the main thing well worth a visit is The Big Bunker in the village, which was a command centre and has commanding views from the roof. We have not done the trip to Caen as yet, but that seemed to be well organised with a convoy of yachts assembling for the trip every morning, I believe. From Ouistreham it is a couple of hours sail to the remaining Mulberry Harbours which were very atmospheric to sail in to. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 01 June 2015 at 11:49
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I might slip that in on the way east as it is not far from Le Havre & i will be able to time arrival better. It will be harder coming from Cherbourg. A lot depends on when one can get out as I need to get to Barfleur as the tide sets West ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 01 June 2015 at 12:35
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Thanks for reminding me about the tide around Barfleur, which of course would inflence my time for departing from Le Havre. I'm now starting to plan my onward trip from the CI, possibly going along the Brittany coast weather permitting and then crossing to Scilly. Alternatively, I will cross to Plymouth from the CI and go on to Scilly. Which all-weather and 24 hour tidal access ports are you planning to visit on the way to Camaret? Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 01 June 2015 at 17:07
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Lezardrieux, Treburden (tidal barrier), Laberwrach, Camaret, Poss Douarnez then return similar way - might do Treguier on return instead of Lezardrieux- to St PP Then back down French side to Ostend Lot depends on weather can you confirm dates you are planning? We have to meet somewhere ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 01 June 2015 at 17:12
Any idea of dates yet Dave? ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 01 June 2015 at 20:00
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I would like to be in Scilly around end of June. Hope to leave Medway end of next week weather permitting. Daysailing it could be 5 days to Cherbourg plus weather stops or rest days. So, say Cherbourg around 19th June - we will see how it pans out. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 01 June 2015 at 21:35
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Charles I will be in Cherbourg but have to be in St PP to meet wife & daughter 17 June as flights booked ( assuming daughter can fly) ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 01 June 2015 at 23:06
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Hopefully we will reach St PP before you leave - that's our aim. I'm thinking of staying on the outside pontoon, assuming it's connected to the shore by then, so it will be easier to leave at an appropriate tidal time. Let's hope the weather is kind. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 12:49
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I will top the Lidl up ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: holby
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 14:37
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Samuel, DD has just this last week been lifted out for gel coat repairs, 6 weeks behind schedule , due to weather around IOM being a wee bit rough for me to make the trip to Pwllheli. She will be back in the water middle of June so at this stage I a, going to have to call of the meeting, sadly as the boss and I had been looking forward to it. Will keep you posted. ------------- Hanse 301, tiller steering, Volvo 2010 (10hp)
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Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 20:44
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Dave Sorry to hear that. Was hoping we might meet again Charles I will be leaving Bradwell tomorrow ( wed) for Boulogne My daughter has today had the all clear from consultant to fly, so she will be St PP 18-22 june.I will be there 16-24Th If you are coming to St PP we should be able to meet at last I will have my AIS on so you will know where I am ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 03 June 2015 at 10:04
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Excellent news Sam. Wish I could set off now with this weather and tides. Hope the weather is kind and that we make it to St PP during your stay there. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 12 June 2015 at 16:51
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I am now in cherbourg & expect weather & tides will be favourable to go to st pp on monday 15th Had some windy uncomfortable sailing!!!!! ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 14 June 2015 at 17:47
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Well done Sam. Hope some other Hanses can join you. I have just reached Boulogne for a couple of nights, before probably following your route via Dieppe and Le Havre. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 20 June 2015 at 12:04
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It is dead lonely here in st PP as far as Hanse's are concerned Currently with wife & daughter but will move on on 23 june when they go home (22nd) Next stop lezardrieux Lidle scotch still lasting out OK as family only use it for antifoul removal ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: CharlesP
Date Posted: 20 June 2015 at 12:10
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Sorry Sam. I'm in Fecamp. Got caught up in a fishermen say blockade in Boulogne, now the wind is not good for heading towards Cherbourg, so we will call into some more ports in this corner for the next week I guess. Charles ------------- 'MERIDIAN LADY' 320 Nr 536 2010 Medway |
Posted By: Peter Russell
Date Posted: 21 June 2015 at 22:41
I was planning on making St PP today from Alderney but the weather really kicked up as we came out of the Race so ended up going with the wind into St Helier. Great sail down with water coming up over the windward deck! SOG went up to 15kts at one time but averaged around 9kts with 7.5 through the water  If anybody is over here Outnumbered is here for the next 3 nights before going over to Guernsey (or more likely Sark) and then the French coast before heading back cross Channel on Sat/Sun.MMSI is 235063342 for when the radio is on ------------- Peter Russell Hanse 370 hull 499 "Outnumbered" http://outnumbered.the-russells.net" rel="nofollow - http://outnumbered.the-russells.net |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 22 June 2015 at 12:27
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I have a chap who wants to crew me for a week. He arrives tonightso we are off to lezardrieuz tues morning. Looks like the Lidli scotch has survived another day. & i had the my hanse flag up ( after dark) ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 22 June 2015 at 12:31
Charles that is worrying Is it just a local thing or will it escalate How did you get out? Will i get caught on return trip- do you advise i give boulogne a miss ? Have they sorted the issue? ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |
Posted By: Peter Russell
Date Posted: 22 June 2015 at 15:28
Shame  I too have my beloved Hanse burgee flying proudly - during the day as well!!------------- Peter Russell Hanse 370 hull 499 "Outnumbered" http://outnumbered.the-russells.net" rel="nofollow - http://outnumbered.the-russells.net |
Posted By: samuel
Date Posted: 24 June 2015 at 16:07
Risky ! ------------- Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex |