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Topic: Hanse or Bavaria?
Posted By: Druid
Subject: Hanse or Bavaria?
Date Posted: 10 January 2007 at 11:04
Hi,
 
I'm new to the forum and am hoping to gain some advice.
 
My wife and I are currently motor boat owners but are changing to sail power. We are, however in a bit of a dilemma.
 
We have seen two boats that we like; the Hanse 342 and the Bavaria 33. Does anyone on the forum have experience of these craft? What are the good/bad points of either?
 
Any comments will be greatly recieved.
 
Very best,
Seaking.
 



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Posted By: borchmadsen
Date Posted: 10 January 2007 at 11:18
Hello Seaking
 
If you looking on the sailing quality, is there no questions. Here is the Hanse 342 the the best. Hanse is a sailboat Bavaire is a caravan Smile.
 
I think also there is big difference on the building and construction quality.
 
brg
Allan


Posted By: Druid
Date Posted: 10 January 2007 at 11:30
Thanks very much for the feedback Allen.
 
Can I ask what you base the comments on? Have you experienced both boats on the water?
 
Br,
Seaking


Posted By: Scorpio
Date Posted: 10 January 2007 at 13:41
Asking that question here is like going to No. 10 and asking who should be Prime Minister - there's only going to be one answer.
 
I am a new owner of a Hanse 342.  I have sailed for 40 years.  Hanse's are a sailor's boat.  So far, I'm very happy.
 
My view of Bavarias is based on looking at them at Boat Shows, the way I see them perform on the water and the feedback they get on independent sites like http://www.ybw.com/forums/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/ym/page/1 - http://www.ybw.com/forums/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/ym/page/1 .  They are lumped in with other volume manufacturers such as Jeanneau and Beneteau in people's views.  Do a seach for BenJenBav.
 
Personally, Bavaria never had a chance of making my short list.  I at least thought about Jeanneau and Beneteau for a few moments.
 
If you want to go sailing, buy a Hanse.  If you want a floating caravan to sit on at the weekends and will rarely leave the Marina buy a Bavaria, its probably cheaper - although the Hanse is still probably better.
 
Whatever you buy, enjoy it.
 
Ed


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Ed Essery
Scorpio GBR 9824T
Hanse 342#465 - Solent Based


Posted By: Druid
Date Posted: 10 January 2007 at 13:55
Thanks very much for the feedback Ed.
 
I do understand your point that a biased view will proably be recieved from the Hanse site. What I am really interested is an owners view as to what is good about the Hanse, this is proably the best place to do that.
 
So thanks again for your comments it is exactly the type of advice we are looking for. I think at the moment I am slightly leaning towards the Hanse, but need to be sure before spending the money.
 
The Bavaria is a nice boat to look at but it seems the Hanse is a better sail (which of course is what we plan to do with our boat).
 
kind regards,
Dan.


Posted By: Hefring
Date Posted: 11 January 2007 at 11:51

Hie

I would like to add that Hanse is better built, stronger constructions all over, better thicker gelcoat, less sikaflex, better finish in the wood-work, rigging on deck is better quality (harken).


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Hefring


Posted By: Rubato
Date Posted: 11 January 2007 at 17:36
I believe Hanse has now switched to Lewmar gear..... Unhappy


Posted By: Scorpio
Date Posted: 11 January 2007 at 21:09

Hanse have made the switch from Harken to Lewmar but they haven't completely cleared the Harken parts bins.  Scorpio (342#465) has mainly Lewmar gear but the track in the cockpit is Harken!

Ed


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Ed Essery
Scorpio GBR 9824T
Hanse 342#465 - Solent Based


Posted By: John Allison
Date Posted: 12 January 2007 at 07:35
Hello Seaking,
 
Welcome to the forum.
 
One last important issue you should not forget is the resale value if you are considering buying new.
 
I suggest you review the relative new price of the two yards similar sized new boats, but then also the sale values of say 3 year old models from both.
 
I believe you'll find the Bavaria prices drop dramatically fairly quickly (way above industry averages) - whilst Hanse tend to hold their own....... 
 
It costs enough to run a yacht as it is - but if you also add in what you loose each year by investing in something that devalues quickly - you might well find your annual cost of sailing a Bav is actually more than an annual cost of sailing a Hanse!!
 
Plus length for length, you will find more volume inside a Hanse than you will in a Bav.
 
Good luck with whatever you decide
 
JOHN


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No longer a Hanse owner - but loved the one we had!


Posted By: Alain & Anne
Date Posted: 12 January 2007 at 09:28
Hello Seaking,

Agree 100% with John!
From our own experience, the three main reasons which led to our décision were:
Building, on deck management and performance price ratio

Good luck

Alain


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UHAMBO 430e#004
White hull-teck deck-Yanmar 55hp-long range cruising
OCC

Our blog: www.uhambo.fr



Posted By: Druid
Date Posted: 12 January 2007 at 09:57
I must say how freindly and helpfull you all are on this Forum. Thank you so much for the valuable feedback.
 
We have been doing alot of research I I must say it is looking increasingly likley to be a 342 for us. I will take one out for a sail hopefully soon and see her in action!
 
If anyone has further comments good or bad about the Hanse/Bavaria they are always welcome.
 
Very best,
Dan.
 


Posted By: Druid
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 17:33

All,

 

To finally settle the Hanse V Bavaria question we took the Bav 33 for a test today.

 

I happy to report we have defiantly made the correct decision with a new 342. There is simply no contest. Hanse wins on nearly every aspect

 

The Bavaria felt quite sluggish in more wind so all the previous advice given on this forum is very correct.

 

All the best,

Dan.



Posted By: Abstinenz
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 18:03
Originally posted by Seaking Seaking wrote:

All,

 

To finally settle the Hanse V Bavaria question we took the Bav 33 for a test today.

 

I happy to report we have defiantly made the correct decision with a new 342. There is simply no contest. Hanse wins on nearly every aspect http://www.myhanse.com/smileys/smiley32.gif -

- - The - Bavaria felt quite sluggish in more wind so all the previous advice given on this forum is very correct.

- - All the best,

-

/Steen

342#436


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Hanse 342#436


Posted By: Druid
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 17:58
Hi Steen,
 
We only sailed the Bav once. It is a very straight forward choice for me Hanse all-the-way Clap


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Druid - 342#555


Posted By: John Allison
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 17:19
Well done Druid.  We are mostly biased - but of course we are always correct.
JOHN


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No longer a Hanse owner - but loved the one we had!


Posted By: Druid
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 09:20
Thanks John,
 
Can't wait to get our new 342 in May!
 
Very best
Dan.


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Druid - 342#555



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