220v connector behind shore power panel
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Topic: 220v connector behind shore power panel
Posted By: SamsonII
Subject: 220v connector behind shore power panel
Date Posted: 09 August 2016 at 20:37
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Hi! I am looking for the white 3-pin connector used behind the shore power panel from Calira. Three of the are in use, but in my boat still three are free. Where can this part be bought?  ------------- Stein-Erik Carlsen Hanse 370e 2006 #41 "Samson II" |
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Posted By: alettaenmarcel
Date Posted: 09 August 2016 at 21:20
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Just cut it off and buy a universal connector Kroonsteentje in dutch language. Gr Marcel ------------- Kids Dingys 72-79 ,Several Windsurfboards 79-86 OK dingy competitions 86-92 , Trotter Pandora Race 92-98, Friendship 28 Sport 98-05, Hanse 370 06-...... |
Posted By: JUTTER
Date Posted: 09 August 2016 at 21:51
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Hi SamsonII, I bought the connector and the pins from the Conrad webshop. These are the details from my order form: At www.conrad.be you will find all the details by the Order code Claude ------------- JUTTER, Hanse 350#0256, 2010, deep keel, Zeeland |
Posted By: SamsonII
Date Posted: 10 August 2016 at 07:02
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Thanks Claude! Ordered the parts you specified from ELFA in Norway - they where in Stock and cheap! BR Stein-Erik
------------- Stein-Erik Carlsen Hanse 370e 2006 #41 "Samson II" |
Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 14 August 2016 at 10:36
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Hi. Did you get the exact right one? I tried to find one from Elfa Sweden years ago and they did not have it. Could you give the link to the product in Norway? ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 14 August 2016 at 10:39
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BTW, you have 220v connectors also in the front cabin lockers if you dd not know. There is a sall lid that yoy can open. ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: Fendant
Date Posted: 14 August 2016 at 13:09
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Hi Marco, this is interesting News :) can you post a foto or a drawing on the Location please Thx ------------- Frank |
Posted By: Idelfix
Date Posted: 14 August 2016 at 22:25
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/oqobv5cdb25w5z9/Hanse%20370e%20220%20volt%20Option.pdf?dl=0" rel="nofollow - https://www.dropbox.com/s/oqobv5cdb25w5z9/Hanse%20370e%20220%20volt%20Option.pdf?dl=0
------------- "Keep sailing in free wind" http://suhrfa.blogspot.se |
Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 15 August 2016 at 08:44
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You can find drawings on my web www.wesailhanse.se and Manuals http://wesailhanse.se/370_documents/370_documents_hanse/hanse370_11_electric_230v_outlets_options_de_en.pdf Open the lockers and you will see a lid in the back of one of them and if you open it and grab all the cables you see you should find a 230V cable connector. ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: SamsonII
Date Posted: 15 August 2016 at 09:51
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Hi Marco! I will test the connectors - they arrived today. Item number 300-12-003 for the connector and 300-11-996 for the crimp-pins. In my boat (build #41) I cant find any 220v cabling in the forward cabin. Is the lid in the back wall? The bottom is solid in both lockers. ------------- Stein-Erik Carlsen Hanse 370e 2006 #41 "Samson II" |
Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 15 August 2016 at 10:45
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In my boat from 2009 there are small lids back of the cabinets. They are attached with 2 screws. There is a bunch of cables and as an example, a Simnet cable rack. I seem to lost my picture of the connector. The one you bought, was it male or female? ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: SamsonII
Date Posted: 15 August 2016 at 11:18
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The Connector is female - you will find it here: https://www.elfadistrelec.no/no/plugghus-35-mm-pol-nr-mate-lok-universal-te-connectivity-350766/p/30012003?q=300-12-003&page=1&origPos=1&origPageSize=50&simi=98.0" rel="nofollow - https://www.elfadistrelec.no/no/plugghus-35-mm-pol-nr-mate-lok-universal-te-connectivity-350766/p/30012003?q=300-12-003&page=1&origPos=1&origPageSize=50&simi=98.0 ------------- Stein-Erik Carlsen Hanse 370e 2006 #41 "Samson II" |
Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 15 August 2016 at 11:32
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Thank you. Let me know when you have tested it and if it fits as it should. I already bought the outlets 2 years ago but have not fitted them yet in the front cabin where I plan to have two 230V outlets plus one extra in the "kitchen". ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: SamsonII
Date Posted: 15 August 2016 at 20:38
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Hi! Just back from the boat. The connectors fits perfectly. And you ar absolutely right - I opened the small lids in both cabinets in the forward cabin. And found a 220v connector on both sides as you said. The strange thing was that the one on starboard side was fitted with a female connector, and the one on port side with a male connector. Strange.... I also opened the lid in the aft cabins, but did not find any cables there. I guess they might be under the bed somewhere - they are there according to the wiring diagram. There should be one in the galley as well - did not fint that one either. But will search more this comming weekend. BR Stein-E ------------- Stein-Erik Carlsen Hanse 370e 2006 #41 "Samson II" |
Posted By: SamsonII
Date Posted: 15 August 2016 at 20:47
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And a correction to my earlier post: the connectors I bought to the Calira panel is male - not female. But since the connectors in the forward cabin is both male and female I need to buy a female as well to be able to connect without cutting the original connector away. Where did you buy your outlets? I contactet hanse.boatoon.com, but they did not sell the original outlets used in my boat anymore. I have looked at the Berker range, which include all types of outlets an switches (including USB for both 220v and 12v). I think they will fit nicely, and they where resonably priced. Can be bought her in Norway: http://caravanashop.no/nettbutikk/elektrisk/lysbrytere BR Stein-E ------------- Stein-Erik Carlsen Hanse 370e 2006 #41 "Samson II" |
Posted By: Peter Russell
Date Posted: 15 August 2016 at 21:51
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In my galley the 240v connector (which was already fitted when we took delivery) is in front of the sink above the cupboard which gives access to the stopcock and sink pipework. I guess yours may be in that area and not towards the settee as suggested by the Hanse diagrams. ------------- Peter Russell Hanse 370 hull 499 "Outnumbered" http://outnumbered.the-russells.net" rel="nofollow - http://outnumbered.the-russells.net |
Posted By: SamsonII
Date Posted: 22 August 2016 at 19:25
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Getting ready to install the new outlets, and checked the connectors I found in the port and starboard lockers in the front cabin. To my surprise the cable was not connected to the intake panel. The cable was just a connection cable from port -> starboard locker through the cable harness over the roof. I also found that the cable tube from the head to the kitchen was empty (it ends right by the seacock under the sink). So I will have to run the cables myself. Not to difficult - there is easy access to all locations. Hanse uses Berker Integro Classic in most models, but I cant find them in any local stores. But the Berker Integro Flow series is easy to find. Both series uses the same outlets/switches - its the frames that are different. So I will go for Integro Flow in chrome matt finish. Five new 220v outlets and two 2x USB 12v outlets.
------------- Stein-Erik Carlsen Hanse 370e 2006 #41 "Samson II" |
Posted By: SamsonII
Date Posted: 11 September 2016 at 18:25
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Hi, Work continues. Have done all the measurements for wire lenghths in the boat today (assembling the connectors in my workshop is much easier than in the boat!). Next step is to drill all the 46mm holes for the doubble 12v USBs and the 220v outlets (7 holes in total)  ------------- Stein-Erik Carlsen Hanse 370e 2006 #41 "Samson II" |
Posted By: SamsonII
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 19:13
Yesterday I installed the cables and connectors. Both 220v and 12v USB. Used the cable channel from the shower to the galley to get the cables across the boat. I took some pictures: The Berker Integro 220v outlet looks solid with good connectors  The twin outlets at the chart table  Finished at the chart table  The cable channel across the boat to the galley was found under the shower seat...  ...and ended under the galley.  Finished with the galley outlet.  And finally the twin outlet in the front cabin above the port locker. ------------- Stein-Erik Carlsen Hanse 370e 2006 #41 "Samson II" |
Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 20 April 2017 at 15:30
I have found necessary parts in Sweden from Elfa distrelec. Pictures and partnumbers can be found here http://www.wesailhanse.se/370_electrical.htm ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
SamsonII wrote:Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 20 April 2017 at 15:32
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Stein-E, I started to plan the holes for the outlets and suddenly realized that I maybe should check if there is electricity in the cables. Sorry to say but there wasnt. So now i dont have any idea where the cables othe end is. Any tips? Marco ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: H8jer
Date Posted: 09 June 2019 at 14:12
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Hello all Could any one please advice me about where to place the 230v sockets in the aft cabins on our Hanse 370? I have searched the boat's double hull and did not find any wires for the optional factory wiring for the aft cabins. There was one 230v wire for microwave oven hidden behind the tableplate above the stove. Got that free after using "make it or break it" force.  Installed a berker outlet socket in the best place for that. My problem is that my kids use the aft cabins and I fear they might destroy the 230v sockets by accident if the are located badly. Any advice on a good location in the aft cabins would be very much appreciated. /h8jer ------------- Hanse 370#487 30HP 3-cabin |
Posted By: Peter Russell
Date Posted: 09 June 2019 at 16:42
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I've not put sockets in the aft cabin - just the fore cabin. However I have run cables back to the stern and know there is conduit along the port side. I only have a single rear cabin - port side. You have a couple of other options... 1) I know it is easy to get cables back from the battery locker to the engine compartment. You could use that route into the stern cabins 2) The water heater is under the bed on the port side (on mine, anyway). That has 240v for the water heater. You could pick up from there. Whilst you are at it, why not run some 12v cable back and put in some USB charging sockets as well. That way on only get to curse once pulling the cables   ------------- Peter Russell Hanse 370 hull 499 "Outnumbered" http://outnumbered.the-russells.net" rel="nofollow - http://outnumbered.the-russells.net |
Posted By: H8jer
Date Posted: 09 June 2019 at 21:08
Hi Peter - Thx for your reply. The water heater has its own switch on the calira power switchboard. I like that, and if the heater got power it will show a red light. If there is no more water in the tank, it can be turned off separately. But we have never used the 230v socket in the head overhead closet. Daisy-chaining the toilet 230v outlet is perhaps the best way to go. The power consumption between the head outlet and the aft cabins together will be minimal. Back to the quote... As a parent I had a mantra that the kids should not have their own TV in their rooms. But parenthood stress moved that border. I also believed in not having TV in our boats. Yet again my borders was pushed by teenagers. They might need cellphone chargers in their rooms, and they might surf all night. But when we are at sea or anchor with no shore power, it will limit their power usage. My naive hope is that they would have to turn off their phones instead of making us seek harbor to recharge the house batteries  But still if anyone knows where the yard put the sockets in the aft cabin I would like to know /H8jer ------------- Hanse 370#487 30HP 3-cabin |
Posted By: Captain Cook
Date Posted: 10 June 2019 at 16:04
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Hanse Werft has mounted the same set of cables in your boat as in all 370s regardless of the fact that you may or may not have chosen all the options which need cables from point A to point B. At wesailhanse.se you can find a cable diagram for the 370e (works also for H400), and all cables which are mentioned in this diagram are present in your boat. The reason for a standardized cable set is obviously a lower price (when Hanse is bying retail). Since Hanse and the dealers like to earn a few bucks in the after-market instrumentation, they have no intentions of telling you where the cables are hidden. That is also the reason for banning electric cable diagrams with Hanse-copyrigt given as an excuse. The cables are first mounted in the ship, and if for example you did not pay for an autopilot, the cables for this item are tied to the thick snake of cables and hidden by black tape. Thereafter the black stocking is mounted on the cables. So you have to deduct the lenght of cable e.g. for the Autopilot, let's say 1,5 meters. Then you have to cut a few inspection holes in the snake, like 1 meter before and after where you suspect the cable will end. Then you consult the "370e electric installation cable list", and you find that the cables you are searching for, are FLRY(the cable name), 6mm2 sw/rt(black/red) from E-panel to Autopilot computer, and 6mm2 sw/ge(black/yellow) from Autopilot AP to Autopilot computer. Good luck with your hunting! (Or "Hals und Beinbruch" as they say in Germany) This is no third hand information, I have done this thing myself! I have a cable diagram for my 400, obtained by asking the dealer for it. By all means this diagram should be available in " Manuals and Drawings", but search the net, and you may find it. Cook the Captain P.S. the 230V cables may not be installed, but open the black stocking in direction of the bow. If you have no 230V sockets in the bow, and you find a grey 230V cable, you just search for the ends of it. ------------- Freya H400 #27 (2006),2-cabin, 40HP 3JH4E, 3-blade Flexofold, Aries LiftUp Windvane, Exturn 300, Jefa DD1,Simrad NX40,Icom M603(VHF)+M802(SSB) |
Posted By: H8jer
Date Posted: 12 June 2019 at 14:44
I agree that the 230v cables are gray. But I have tracked all the 230 cables from the calira 230v switchboard. And there is not any cables for aft cabins in the harness/pile of cables. Have also searched with endoscope camera in the voids. This discovery leads me to conclude that it is not possible to have flush mounted 230v outlets in the aft cabins. The only possible location would be under the locker with the risk of people stepping on whatever they put in the outlets. My plan is to daisychain from the heads 230v outlet and use Berker Surface Mounting sockets above the shelfs https://www.svb24.com/product/gallery/511281?select=2" rel="nofollow - https://www.svb24.com/product/gallery/511281?select=2 ------------- Hanse 370#487 30HP 3-cabin |
Posted By: Borjebus
Date Posted: 08 June 2020 at 20:19
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Hi Marco, I just ended up in the same problem - The 230V cable behind the port side wardrobe had no power! Accoring to the electrical diagram the other end should be at the Calira 230V panel. Is it ihidden, unconnected, somewhere? ------------- BÄSK, Hanse 370e #82 from 2006, Yanmar 3JH4E/SD50, 3-blade Flexofold, RMC(Lewmar) 185 Bowthruster, Vulcan 9, Simrad+B&G instruments |
Posted By: MarcoC
Date Posted: 09 June 2020 at 10:01
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Börjebus, I just sent you a PM. Marco ------------- "Älva" Hanse 370#671 Stockholm, Sweden http://www.wesailhanse.se" rel="nofollow - www.wesailhanse.se big wheel, deep draught iron keel, 3 cabins,Yanmar 3JH4E, Sparcraft rig. |
Posted By: MAJOTE
Date Posted: 11 December 2024 at 13:05
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Hola a todos Alguien sabe cómo y dónde termina el cable gris del microondas? Hi everyone, does anyone know how and where the grey microwave wire ends?
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