Standing rigging

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We just arrived in the Azores and i discovered 1 broken strand on my V1 starboard shroud (stay). I am not too worried, but in case i want to replace the shroud (stay)...... does anybody know the dimensions of the standing rigging (shrouds, stays) for a 505 with a Selden mast?

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jdderijke Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 13 February 2016 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 64	Post Options Post Reply Quote jdderijke Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Standing rigging Posted: 09 August 2025 at 16:19
	Hello, We just arrived in the Azores and i discovered 1 broken strand on my V1 starboard shroud (stay). I am not too worried, but in case i want to replace the shroud (stay)...... does anybody know the dimensions of the standing rigging (shrouds, stays) for a 505 with a Selden mast?
	JD

david505 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 13 December 2019 Location: San Francisco, Status: Offline Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote david505 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 August 2025 at 19:40
	Here is the bill of materials for when we replaced our standing rigging last year. Hope it's helpful.

kipwrite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 14 October 2015 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 495	Post Options Post Reply Quote kipwrite Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 August 2025 at 22:28
	Had a broken strand in a V1 shroud about a year ago - ordered a replacement direct from Selden (Florida) reasonably priced, fast delivery, based on the serial number at the base of the Selden mast. My rigger recommended all new standing rigging, after 25,000 nm, as one broken strand likely means others aren't far behind. Replaced everything last winter.
	Kipwrite

jdderijke Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 13 February 2016 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 64	Post Options Post Reply Quote jdderijke Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 August 2025 at 20:58
	Thank you David, I assume the lengths are in feet not meters?
	JD

jdderijke Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 13 February 2016 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 64	Post Options Post Reply Quote jdderijke Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 August 2025 at 21:01
	Thanks, i found the serial number at the bottom of the mast… Does this mean Selden can send a completely ready to mount V1 stay, without any need for measuring and cutting??? Complete with terminals etc already in place?? That would be great!
	JD

Gale Force Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 26 June 2018 Location: Sri Lanka Status: Offline Points: 398	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gale Force Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2025 at 10:43
	Should be able to .I received a complete set of standing rigging ready to install last year> Duncan

kipwrite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 14 October 2015 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 495	Post Options Post Reply Quote kipwrite Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2025 at 12:56
	Yes, I ordered a complete v1 stay from Selden via the serial number, cheaper than having one fabricated and an exact match. It's an interesting install without removing the mast, but it can be done. Good luck.
	Kipwrite

jdderijke Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 13 February 2016 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 64	Post Options Post Reply Quote jdderijke Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2025 at 13:04
	Can you elaborate a little more on how to replace the V1 without removing the mast?
	JD

kipwrite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 14 October 2015 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 495	Post Options Post Reply Quote kipwrite Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2025 at 13:23
	Did this a few years ago, and we replaced the lower diagonal spreader, not the v1, so I'm not sure how your process might differ - but essentially: - pick a day with no wind - loosen the rig significantly, both sides, such that you can remove the spreader where the D1 terminates - use the main halyard and topping lift as temporary standing rigging on the side with the D1 to be replaced - on my boat, to remove the d1you needed to remove the spreader by pulling it outboard a few inches. Once you do this the broken D1 can be removed and the new one installed. Have a look at the Selden rigging guide to see how your spreaders are attached - but on my boat, with sufficient rig slack, the spreader slips off outboard fairly easily. As I recall there may be two pins that need to be withdrawn. - you'll want to have your rigger bring the new d1 up with a line, have an another line to help support the spreader once it's free of the mast (we suspended it from the next higher spreader) and another line to lower the old broken D1. Think about the sequence before you start. - the entire operation took a few hours, most of the time was spent loosening and retuning the rig. The actual swap, the scary part, goes pretty quick. All that said, I took the mast down at the end of the season and replaced all the standing rigging. The one broken strand suggested the rig was about done, as noted above. As I recall the verticals are attached similarly - the trick is to loosen the rig so you can remove the cap holding the broken vertical shroud. But in general the approach should be - loosen rig, use halyards as temporary rigging, remove cap, replace shroud. Since you'll be removing the cap instead of the spreader it might be simpler. Note: this is from my recollection. Memory could be spotty but if you read the Selden rigging booklet and proceed carefully it can be done. Edited by kipwrite - 12 August 2025 at 14:00
	Kipwrite

jdderijke Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 13 February 2016 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 64	Post Options Post Reply Quote jdderijke Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 August 2025 at 16:05
	KipWrite....Thank you for the DIY "manual". I am a little nervous though: When loosening the rig the mast will start to swing around a little. You can use the topping lift and the main halyard for taking the load on SB and portside rigging, but what about the forestay and the backstay.... And to remove the cap at the end of the first spreader (to remove the V1 shroud) the side rig must be very loose... One would also have to loosen the D1 and D2, V1, V2 and D3 shrouds on both sides... essentially totally loosening the rig. By also loosening the backstay the mast will lean forward a little. Getting the new V1 in place should be doable, but after that all stays must be re-tensioned..... Maybe i should get a professional rigger to do the work..
	JD



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