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Minibusdriver 
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Joined: 19 June 2021 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 42 |
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 Posted: 04 July 2023 at 18:55 |
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Thankyou
Looks like next winters job list is +1 😩
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Dogscout
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Posted: 05 July 2023 at 23:59 |
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Any thoughts of using Motorcycle Chain Lube on these? I have a few cans of it in the garage. I do know that my 430 of 2008 that the chain is still in good order. I have replaced the cables though.
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FalParsi
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Posted: 06 July 2023 at 16:00 |
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My center chain broke two years ago on my 505. I could reach it without removing the pedestals. I replaced it with dyneema lashings. No more lubrication needed, but I inspect it every year.
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2016 Hanse 505 #120
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Arcadia
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Joined: 27 November 2017 Location: Sag Harbor, USA Status: Offline Points: 1112 |
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Posted: 06 July 2023 at 19:26 |
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The chain usually engages with a sprocket. How does dyneema replace it ??
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2018 Hanse 588 Sag Harbor, NY |
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FalParsi
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Posted: 06 July 2023 at 21:51 |
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The 2 sprockets on the rudders still have chains. It is the one in the center of the steering quadrant which I replaced with dyneema.
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2016 Hanse 505 #120
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marsella
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Joined: 21 June 2022 Location: Antigua Jolly H Status: Offline Points: 592 |
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Posted: 06 July 2023 at 22:40 |
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Yes, the only central chain has a problem, I think it is the only one that is somewhat exposed to the water since there is small gap between the hatch that covers steering quadrant and the deck. The two chains inside steering pedestrals are isolated, and factory grease stays on them for a long time. Its clear design flaw from Jefa, one can simply grease and cover the central chain with rubber or something or use dyneema, the chain just connects two cables together and goes left or right when steering, it doesnt bend or anything.
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S&J
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Posted: 09 July 2023 at 11:53 |
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This post promoted me to take a look at my own steering. All the chain looks as new with no trace of either rust or grease. I have now applied grease and made slight adjustment in tension on the quadrant.
No sign of any mark or brand on the chain itself.
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H458 #159 Primal Mediterranean cruising
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Ian Coverdale
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Posted: 09 July 2023 at 23:25 |
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Interesting you too have a greaseless chain. Think this is part of problem. Installer is not following Jefa's guidance. Would expect to find chain greased as maintenance instruction.
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Ian & Andrea
SV Gabrielle (H445) Liveaboards - currently Montenegro. www.facebook.com/sailinggabrielle |
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jlegelis
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Posted: 01 February 2024 at 20:46 |
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Hi Ian - Any more guidance on how to access the chains? Does one need to remove the steering wheels, etc?
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Ian Coverdale
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Posted: 08 February 2024 at 23:51 |
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Hi,
This guide on Jefa websites tells you all you need to know ... Yes you need to remove the wheels. Be very careful not to drop chains down into steering pedestal! Cheers.
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Ian & Andrea
SV Gabrielle (H445) Liveaboards - currently Montenegro. www.facebook.com/sailinggabrielle |
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