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Minibusdriver 
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 Posted: 26 February 2024 at 07:49 |
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Ian
Thanks for your help and advice. Inspected,cleaned and regreased the chain, wire and connections. Not a difficult job just a couple of hours. As you said ‘don’t drop the chain’!! All in good condition no signs of rust. The factory had greased the chain well in the pedestals. However the centre chain behind the rudder quadrant was not greased but fortunately in good condition. It is well greased now 🤓. I’ve added this job to the winter maintenance schedule. Once again thanks for your help. Cheers Phil
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Ian Coverdale
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Posted: 26 February 2024 at 19:57 |
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Awesome Phil. Peace-of-mind :-)
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Ian & Andrea
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32mike
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Posted: 24 May 2024 at 20:29 |
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So, I finally got around to checking my quadrant chain. It looks to be sturdier than marsella’s and shows no sign of wear or corrosion that I can tell. It also has no grease on it from the factory.
  While inspecting everything, I noticed something else with the autopilot linkage. The push rod seems a bit out of kilter on the connecting sockets. Is that normal/ok or does it need repositioning? Any thoughts from the experts?   |
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Mike
S/V Dulces Sueños 458 #087 Tampa, FL |
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Ian Coverdale
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Posted: 24 May 2024 at 22:23 |
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Out of kilter is fine ... they do that ... but grease that chain!
Hanse are not following Jefa recommendation for lubrication at install which is why I'm sure there are so many failures. Grease is for corrosion protection more than lubrication; it is an annual maintenance recommendation from Jefa ... GREASE THAT CHAIN!!!
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Ian & Andrea
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32mike
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Posted: 25 May 2024 at 01:42 |
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Greased it today. Haven’t done the wheel chains yet though …
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Mike
S/V Dulces Sueños 458 #087 Tampa, FL |
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S&J
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Posted: 08 June 2024 at 14:51 |
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I note that your tie rid os using the inner hole on the quadrant arm. The Jefa build card (and many posts on here) recommend using the outer hole.
I have just installed a new DD1 and thought that I would swap from the inner to outer hole, but I found the stud on the inner hole appears to have been pressure fitted at the factory and I couldn't move it. Has anyone any suggestions on how to do this or general comments on the best way to install the tie rod?
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Arcadia
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Posted: 08 June 2024 at 15:40 |
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Stuart, the outer hole would give you about 20 percent more power and would be an advantage. All of the tiller attachments I have seen were thru bolted through the hole using a nut and washer. Is yours different ? A stud would not be as strong. If it is in fact a nut and bolt, then it is possible that the bolt is frozen in place by corrosion. Stainless and aluminum don’t play well. A sharp tap with a hammer may free it along with some penetrating oil or heat.
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Leon / ARCADIA
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S&J
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Posted: 08 June 2024 at 16:15 |
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The picture posted by Mike shows how my tie rod is attached to the quadrant. The eye of the rod goes over a hollow stud and is secured by a bolt through the stud. Bolt has allen key top, washer and washer and nut below. I can remove the bolt and tie rod but the stud seems to be pressure fitted into the quadrant. I think it is push fit and not screwed. I can't think of any way to remove it.
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Arcadia
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Posted: 08 June 2024 at 17:07 |
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Yes. That spacer (stud) is bolted down and provides the bearing surface that the rod pushes on. I assure you that it is removable. It’s a very tight fit and may need some persuasion. If you damage it on the way out, you can get a replacement from Jefa to use on the other hole. Not expensive but the DD1 needs all the help it can get on a boat your size.
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Leon / ARCADIA
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32mike
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Posted: 08 June 2024 at 20:11 |
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Yeah, I noticed that. I made a note to go back and read the debate on holes but haven’t done it yet. I didn’t try to disassemble it yet either. Let us know how you make out. Did your old autopilot quit?
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Mike
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