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copain 
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 Posted: 20 April 2008 at 22:50 |
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Hello mr Thomas,
Your reply to my post is totally out of order !!
We are talking about a Hanse 350 which was commissioned on the 9th of april at Medemblik in Holland and to my knowledge it has not been freezing since then.
This pipe has spit spontaniously and filled our boat wit 150ltrs of fresh water from the freshwater tank. It could of course have been more would have the tank been totally full. `200ltrsī
You donīt seem to understand what this does to peoples state of mind and come up with a .... story about European winters etc etc. I live here you know.
Your post starts with `I do not often reply to a posting` and I think you should think again before you do.
Could you please get in touch with me through PM.
Willem
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from march 2008 Hanse 350 # 061 Visit my BLOG op http://www.wsv-haringvliet.nl/blog/maatje/ |
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copain
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Posted: 20 April 2008 at 23:42 |
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Hi Brootus, You are right, the wooddust comes from everywhere, it will block the bilgepump in a second. A comparisment with a carpenters workshop is correct. Even in the engine room there was lots of sawdust. At first I did not identify this and worried about it untill I realised it was wood shavings and I still worried about it. There is no need for all these problems if there would be an end quality control in place at Hanse.
Regards, Willem
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s/y Copain (Beneteau 281)
from march 2008 Hanse 350 # 061 Visit my BLOG op http://www.wsv-haringvliet.nl/blog/maatje/ |
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Johan Hackman
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Posted: 20 April 2008 at 23:43 |
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I think it is unacceptable on a brand new boat that the water system is allowed to pump the contents of the water tank into the boat. In the years to come it will be the responsability of the owner to make sure it won't happen, but when the boat is just recently delivered it's still the responsability of the the yard.
Willem, I would like to know what make and model number your bilge pump is, as well as where it is positioned and where the outlet is. The original pump on my boat would certainly not have been of any help in a similar situation. I am curious to know if the 350 has got the same pump mounted. Johan Edited by Johan Hackman - 20 April 2008 at 23:50 |
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copain
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Posted: 21 April 2008 at 00:06 |
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Hi Johan,
Will find out what make and model our bilgepump is tomorrow and will let you know.
You have to realise, although I would like to have this sorted out as soon as possible, I do need some time to get to know the boat better.
We have only sailed her home and never had the time to get used to her and I donīt think she got used to us.
You know , I like to crawl into places ( not easy with my posture), investigate, find bits and pieces you have never seen before and wonder , what the h. is that.
But eventually it will all be sorted.
Regards, Willem
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from march 2008 Hanse 350 # 061 Visit my BLOG op http://www.wsv-haringvliet.nl/blog/maatje/ |
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alettaenmarcel
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Posted: 21 April 2008 at 07:44 |
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Hi Willem
We drove by the place were your boat is in the kanaal.
We saw your wive on the boat reading a book or so , but we did not know you hade such a problem at that time.
The boat looks beautiful .
Succes with solving the problems
greetings Marcel
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Johan Hackman
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Posted: 21 April 2008 at 08:47 |
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The weakest point in the water pressure system on my boat is the shower handle in the stern. It has frozen for me several times even though I have made sure that there is no water left in it when I leave the boat (with the pump turned off, of course). I now plug the hose and only put the handle on when I know it's safe and that I am aboard.
The handle frequently falls back into the locker so I have had the same problem with water being pumped into the boat from the water tank, although it was a smaller leak. It took some time to sponge that water out of the locker under the aft cabin bunks though. In my opinion this is not only a weak point, it's a crappy item in the system. There should at least be a valve so the shower hose could be turned off. Johan |
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Eduard
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Posted: 21 April 2008 at 20:17 |
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Willem,
It seems that Murphy's law is applicable to your boat. However I trust that it's gonna be OK in due course.
One of the good things of this graet forum is that all those nasty affairs are disclosed.
Hanse (and their dealers) should realise that a lack of quality control damages (or even may destroy) their reputation.
Their short term profits can turn into a long term loss. That's not a good prospect for a (listed) company.
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copain
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Posted: 21 April 2008 at 20:23 |
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Johan,
Sorry I never got the make and model of bilge pump today due to lack of time but will follow up.
Willem
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from march 2008 Hanse 350 # 061 Visit my BLOG op http://www.wsv-haringvliet.nl/blog/maatje/ |
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copain
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Posted: 21 April 2008 at 20:33 |
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Hi Eduard,
You are right about how great this forum is. It has been a great help to me and still is.
I'm sure eventually it will all turn out ok for us. Called Hetterschijt today about the drinking water being pumped in the boat and they will send a guy out to try to get the water between outer and inner scale pumped out. At the same time he will have a look why the electric waterheater heats up the engine.
I have to say the Dutch dealer so far has been responsive and responsable in their reactions.
Regards, Willem
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from march 2008 Hanse 350 # 061 Visit my BLOG op http://www.wsv-haringvliet.nl/blog/maatje/ |
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Johan Hackman
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Posted: 21 April 2008 at 20:50 |
I am surprised that they don't check out who's active at this forum in order to make sure that person doesn't have anything negative to write about. Johan |
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