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    Posted: 08 November 2020 at 21:42
I have just had a rigger do a tune-up on my mast rigging and he found the top stbd spreader had fractured close to the mast and a piece of spreader approx 75mm long was just hanging on by a small amount.  Selden say they are not warranting and that a rope / halyard must have caught around it.  We are coming up for 2 years and feel that it is a warranty issue as the other spreader is showing signs of stress ( whitening around the stress area ).  The rigger who is very experienced said that previous spreaders had 2 bolts holding the spreader to the mast fitting and now it has been reduced to one.  Has anyone checked their rigging and found anything similar?  The other explanation given is that the sail has been resting against the spreader and stay and has caused this.   My concern is that the other spreader is showing signs of stress.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 November 2020 at 09:54
Hi - Interesting. Do you have any pictures? Will you have any pictures after it has been replaced. I'll check mine in the spring. I can't visualise a Halyard getting caught round the spreader causing this to be honest
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TouchOfGrey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 November 2020 at 13:41
Hi Antsy,

Will check my spreaders coming weekend. My boat is onshore and stored in a hall. The mast removed and spreaders are in my boat. Can you send an picture of your top spreaders, the one with the damage and the other with the stress marks?

thanks,

Henk

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote S&J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 November 2020 at 14:39
The bolts (in fact clevis pins) that connect the spreader to the mast are pretty substantial (on my 2015 Selden rig).  The outer ends have a shaped  plastic endpiece that is clamped to the stay and is held into the spreader with an allen-key type grub screw.
Difficult to imagine what "stress" you might have unless the spreader was forced forwards or backwards against the mast fitting, which would normally not be possible with the stay under load.
Is it possible that this was damaged when the mast and rigging was removed/transported/stored?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 November 2020 at 17:01
Certainly these C section Selden masts have been around a while now (I had one of the early ones on my last boat back in 2006) and if there were a generic fault you would expect it to be occurring in many masts, especially with the narrower shroud angles associated on boats with deck chainplates. By comparison the rig loads on Hanses would be much lower as they have such a wide shroud base
 
Will be interesting to see some pictures and find out what has happened.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 November 2020 at 17:41
Originally posted by TouchOfGrey TouchOfGrey wrote:

My boat is onshore and stored in a hall.

 
So envious :(
 
This is my poor boat out in all weathers for the winter
 
Hanse 418 #64 EmBer. Hamble, UK

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Matt, Sailed past EmBer weekend before lockdown and she was very well put to bed for winter rather than my mad rush to get sails off day before we are allowed out again in a month!!
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Spreader problem
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Antsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 November 2020 at 01:24
Photo of Port spreader but stress is not easy to see here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Breathe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 November 2020 at 02:07
Hi,

I had my rig professionally inspected at around two years old. The report makes no mention of any issues with the spreaders, but those photos are a concern so I will have a look over the next couple of weeks.

Thanks for posting this.

Gordon
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