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    Posted: 02 March 2021 at 09:10
Pushpit mounting is certainly the most convenient but if your 418 is anything like my 400 then the stanchion mountings will definitely require substantial reinforcement.  

The effects on stability of such a large undesigned-for mass fairly high up right aft must also be considered, particularly if you already have other high-up weight like a roller main as these are not usually considered in the Stability Curves.  However, given that our risk-assessments should take account of the actual patterns of use then if you're never going to sail in sea-states where stability is of concern then this may not be an issue.  After a pretty interesting knock-down in the Channel one year, I'm perhaps more wary than most....

I do like the old dictum that 'the best life raft is always your own boat'.



 
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 David,
I have a cradle that came with 2 mounting clamps (see black arrows). It was pretty easy to install. Additionally I tied the cradle to the pushpit with some 3mm rope (red arrow) at one „intersection“.  I am afraid that the picture attached doesn‘t show it too well, but I hope you get the idea. Won‘t get back to my boat anytime soon due to lockdown :-(
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Gunnar,

I'm glad to see at least one canister raft as that is what I have bought but not installed yet!.  I am planning to mount it in the same location.  Do you have any photos of how it is attached to the pushpit?  Mine came with threaded sockets on the raft frame and I'm looking for the best mounting system as it is close to 50kg

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Moin Frank, und herzlichen Glückwunsch zum neuen Boot!
For what it is good for, I wouldn’t discard the pushpit option. The manoeuvring space you‘d give up is neglectable. Your outboard motor could go to the other side (though I admit that I have an electric torqeedo, which I keep down below inside), and there will still be space for other safety gear you may wish to mount either port or starboard. I am very happy with my 6px raft container on the port side (see pic below). The space in the starboard locker is precious, and you my want to safe it for other stuff like hoses, ropes etc. There is also the safety aspect, because the raft can be deployed from the pushpit even in difficult conditions very easily.
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Thanks a lot for all the good advices - highly appreciated. Looks that there are quite some options to store the life raft in one of the lockers. So I'll skip the container option and go for a valise packed one. And I'll select one with a low width, so that it can be stored in the cockpit bank locker as well if required. So I can select and order a life raft now, so that it is available in time for the hand-over of the boat.

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Dear Frank,

As usual, there is no "perfect" answer for this problem. What I found as best compromise was to place it in the aft locker, port side. In order to keep it from moving around, and to be able to easily remove it in case of an emergency, I bult a custom shelf that you can see on the attached photos. The shelf is attached to the existing wood structure in the locker using 5-6 inox screws. I also made a few holes on my shelf for any water to find a way out.
It is still possible to fit a couple of fenders underneath the shelf.
My life raft is for 8 persons and weights over 50 kg.

Have fun!
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Hi Frank,

We sail our 418 since spring 2018 and truly love the boat. The looks, the speed, the ease of handling, the space and layout inside.
About the liferaft, we too use a 6 persons raft in a valise, stored in SB cockpit locker. There is some woodwork protecting the engine air intake hose. I modified this to make it more slender (it was 4-5 inch oversized, and our valise fits perfectly next to this, resting on the hull. 
Obviously we should not be tempted to cover it all up with other stores and hamper access to the raft.
In our case we only store extra mooring lines etc on top of the raft. These are easily tossed away in case we need to deploy it.
I searched long before I found a perfect sized raft (size in valise) and ended up with a 6p Ocean Standard raft from Ocean Safety. Back in 2018 they advertised with free first service after 3 years, they just serviced mine.
Have fun preparing for your boat handover!
Henk

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We ended up with two life rafts.   A small 4 person one and a bigger 6 person.  The small one lived in the cockpit locker and the six person down below under a bunk.   Since most of the time it was just my wife and I sailing we had the security of easy to launch life-raft (especially for her) available immediately.  If we had guests on board we had the second raft too. With more hands the heavier raft was no longer a problem.   Doubling up also gives insurance in case one fails to work.


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Originally posted by Tranquillity Tranquillity wrote:

Hi Pieter,
It is a six man Seago raft. I see your in Hamble as well, once lockdown is over welcome to come over and have a look on how it fits.
thanks ! I will come over and look for you early April, fingers crossed. I am based in Port Hamble.
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Hi Pieter,
It is a six man Seago raft. I see your in Hamble as well, once lockdown is over welcome to come over and have a look on how it fits.
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