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460AUS
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Topic: Why do we think Hanse doesn't answer questions?Posted: 26 April 2025 at 13:29 |
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Recently a great member 418Singapore posted:-
Hanse are notoriously bad at answering client questions Good luck Paul I think we all love our Hanse’s for a whole range of different reasons. So why would Hanse not be proud of their creations and answer the questions we want answered? I have been lucky lately and had lots of mine answered so far. As a forum what can we do to encourage Hanse to answer them all? There is nothing better than a manufacturer that stands by their products, much like Porsche AU does. Cheers J
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Posted: 26 April 2025 at 13:32 |
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Typo now corrected
Cheers J
Edited by 460AUS - 26 April 2025 at 21:22 |
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Wayne's World
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Posted: 27 April 2025 at 00:20 |
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460AUS,
Hanse business model, which is similar to various other manufacturers in various industries is for the dealers to work with clients sort out "normal" issues. The dealer the vessel is bought through is paid a sales commission and a warranty percentage for this reason. A lot of the "production boats have a similar arrangement. Hanse does not have a customer facing department and relies on its' dealers. Some customers may be initially surprised by this arrangement. Some brands like Oyster deal directly with customers but their business model is completely different - they have a low volume, high priced vessel. They have also gone bankrupt several times in the last 15 years or so. A price comparison for our 575 compared to the Oyster 575 was in 2014 = E500K for the Hanse and E2,500K for the Oyster (ie 5 times the price, but definitely not 5 times the boat). We have several cruiser friends who bought new Oysters and had lots of warranty issues. The implications again possibly not appreciated by new Hanse owners is if you have a shonky dealer getting warranty stuff done is all the harder. Looking at it another way is - if you have a problem with your Toyota car you do not call/email Toyota Japan you either go to the dealer or if no success there maybe the importer. We bought our 575 through Windcraft Aust and they arranged Inspiration Marine Group (UK) to look after the warranty side because we would be in Europe for the 2 year warranty period. This worked out well for us - IMG arranged a Spanish dealer to replace a bow thruster door for us with all expenses paid for by IMG (including haul the boat out of the water etc). IMG offered to send someone to Sweden when we had a problem there but using their instructions I fixed the problem. IMG also sent one of their staff to Cartagena (Spain) to fix some issues at no cost to us. Although we are in our 11th year of ownership IMG Service still supply backup information to me occasionally at no cost. So, I can say both IMG and Windcraft have been great partners. This forum is a great resource for Hanse owners and is actually supported by IMG.
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Posted: 27 April 2025 at 01:07 |
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Agree with Wayne. The customer facing is primarily done thru dealers, but this falls apart when you get into the used market. Buying a new boat you should expect the dealer to handle all this. That said, there is really no channel (outside of forums like these) for second or third owners of boats. Or boats a few years out of warranty. My boat is now 7 years old, but my dealer still answers questions when I call. If I sold it to someone else, not sure what they would do. I don't see why they cannot support an owners connection process like other companies. Information portals, spare parts ordering via partners (like boatoon), question and answer processes with experts, etc. This would not cost too much and would build brand loyalty. FWIW |
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Posted: 27 April 2025 at 12:13 |
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You are all correct, if the Hanse dealer is still in business you are safe in the warranty period.
Mine went belly up 4 years after commissioning the boat. so I am in the not in the 1st owner league. Luckily everything on the boat works well
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Posted: 28 April 2025 at 20:54 |
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Interesting thread.
While I still have a good relationship with my broker's service department (usually for an occasional question) and they remain highly responsive, most of my issues are resolved via third party manufacturers (B&G, Selden, Quick, Lewmar, Ocean Options, Victron, Jeffa, etc) and when I interact with Hanse it's through Boatoon for proprietary parts, and they are generally responsive. Going through my broker's service department to the third party manufacturer just adds steps and costs, in my experience. Of course, I'm well out of warranty. Kipwrite Lilia Hanse '16 505/slot 123
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Posted: 28 April 2025 at 22:32 |
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I recently contacted Hanse direct in regards to adding a staysail on my 2014 445 , they came back to me very quickly (not with what I wanted to hear , but quickly none the less!)
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Posted: 29 April 2025 at 04:01 |
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I'm the new owner of a 460 brought through a dealer in the Caribbean. Ends up it's a one man show. Boat was never properly commissioned, came filthy, problems found by Surveyor are ignored and gaslit.
They want another $10k to join their owners club and have suggested to other owners not to provide help to "non-members " Not sure what to do to get proper service.
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Posted: 29 April 2025 at 07:40 |
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If you have the proof of the request for 10K, and get no proper service anyway, I could suggest going directly to Hanse describing the situation, bringing up as many negative details about the dealer as possible.
Worst case - you still get no service Best case - Hanse will contact the dealer directly and tell "this is not the way to go" and it could become better for you. However...I wonder if dealer even cares in this situation :( In general the problem with business model like this is that it requires constant dealer certification checks and so on from the brand owner, and in case of Hanse it does not seem to be the case, hence such a different attitude. |
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Posted: 29 April 2025 at 08:59 |
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Hi LRS,
I am very sorry to hear about your problems. Hanse may well be the first place to start. Here we have powerful consumer laws I do hope that you have similar at home. Good luck and please keep us posted. Cheers J
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