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jnickol
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Posted: 16 September 2008 at 14:17 |
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I have 2006 Hull # 3 370e and while there are some minor issues as you will have with most boats, the majority of the issues you mentioned I have not encountered on our boat. We sail in Newport RI and regularly have winds in the 25-27 kts range and love the way the boat handles the breeze. It also sails well in the light stuff. We recently sailed her into Nantucket Harbor in 6-7' seas with 30 kts winds and she handled herself with great ease under main only. We take this boat on 5-7 days cruises each year to Martha's Vinyard, Nantucket and Block Island and have never encountered any mechanical issues along the way.
Of the things on your list, I have had only the following:
Shower drain is slow. There is a new thred on a teak insert to help with this problem.
Electrical issue with the anchor windlass relay switch. This was fixed by Hanse and there are threads in forum for this fix.
Other than these two issues, we have had nothing but joy and happiness with this boat.
Good luck and you will be happy you purchased a Hanse 370!!!
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lukemi
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Posted: 16 September 2008 at 17:13 |
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I have a 2007 hull (Delivered in Dec 2006) #166. Whenever I see a quality issue posted on this forum, I always go back to my boat and check to see if I have the same issue. In almost every cases, either I do not have an issue, or it is so minor that it does not concern me. I would not get overly concerned about the minor issues on these posts.
In buying a used boat, I would be more concerned with previous maintenance and care. Has the boat every hit hard ground, had the hull ever scraped other boats, has all engine maintenance been performed, etc. If modifications were performed on the boat, were they done by a reputable installer.
Hanse is not the elite of boats, hence we did not pay for the best. It is certainly not the bottom rung of boats either. I think the package is a reasonable selection of materials from reputable vendors. The hull design and performance are as good as if not better than other boats that I race in my local sailing club. Performance is much better than Hunter, Catalina and CC that I also race on. As a crusing boat, I like Sabre and Island Packet better for comfort but they have bad sailing performance. For looks I like my neighbors Tayana (nice wood) but again, the Hanse has much better sailing performance. Not worth the trade off.
Regards, Mike
Stella Maris #166
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ArgleBargle
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Posted: 19 September 2008 at 01:10 |
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hi
thanks again for all of the respones.
did the sea trial in 10-20 kts wind. generally quite impressed. thoughts:
i'll post more after the survey.
cheers
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colincooper
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Posted: 19 September 2008 at 09:42 |
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Glad you liked it. We have the 2006 model too which has different quirks to current models.
For example, the 2006 tank gauge is a meter (not an LED bar chart). It works much better than the LEDs. It does have a minor problem in that it moves much faster as the tank empties - so that you are almost empty when showing half full. If you look at the shape of the tank (a wedge pointing down) you will see why. Not a problem if you know what to expect.
The self tacker is fine if a reasonable wind. I think that people would like a bigger headsail in lighter winds. One solution is to use code 0s, cruising code 0s and/or aysmetric spinnakers in light winds. That way you still retain use of the self tacker in stronger winds. For cruising, the ability to tack very easily single-handed is fantastic. The standard self-tacker benefits from secondary sheeting when off wind to retain a good shape. You can also use the secondary sheets to heave-to.
You can fit a main traveller in the cockpit if you don't like the cabin-top one. All the reinforcing plates are embedded in the GRP ready for that. It is just a question of whether you want a less effective traveller out the way or a more effective one that gets in the way. All depends on your sailing style.
You found handling to be very easy. That is definately one of the advantages of the 370. She is a very well behaved boat under sail and power.
Sounds like the furler might be jamming somewhere. Could just be the control rope. Or a sagging forestay; was the backstay tensioned up?
Edited by colincooper - 19 September 2008 at 09:54 |
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Flemse
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Posted: 19 September 2008 at 10:27 |
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Hi Collincooper.
can you please explain how you rig the jib for down wind/broad reach sailing ? and if you have a photo it would be great! I already have bought the gennaker kit ( pin,sheets and blocks) but the sail and snuffer must wait...(have to by food for the family)
Kind regards Flemse "FreeSpirit " 370 |
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colincooper
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Posted: 19 September 2008 at 11:39 |
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You need to add a secondary sheet and there are various ways to do it. You could just use the standard tracks for a gonoa - but they don't really work well for the jib when a long way off the wind. They are in the wrong place for that. However this is the simplest "fixed" solution.
We cruise and so have long legs with the wind from the same direction. When going off the wind I run an extra sheet on the lee side. I find simply running it from the winch then through my amidships cleat and then up outside to the sail works fine. Rig it up and then slacken off the primary sheet. That way all you need is a short piece of spare rope. This is fine for ad-hoc trimming of the jib. It also means that the sheets aren't there all the time messing up the boat and being a trip-hazzard.
A better way to do it is to add a block - either on the amidships cleat or fixed to the toerail. Hanse UK online shop does a fitting that lets you add a block to the toerail very easily. The problem with a fixed arrangement is whether to run inside or outside. That will vary depending on how far off the wind you go. I don't bother with this until far enough off the wind to go outside. Leaving it fixed there all the time on the outside is not ideal.
I don't have a picture but can add one later if this isn't clear. Edited by colincooper - 19 September 2008 at 12:03 |
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Flemse
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Posted: 19 September 2008 at 18:09 |
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Thanks Colin
it sounds like a nice and simple solution- i will give it a try! Flemse |
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ArgleBargle
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Posted: 25 September 2008 at 05:12 |
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well, both the sea trial and survey are now done (awaiting the engine inspection).
my surveyor was very thorough and rather a critical fellow (which i think is good in a surveyor, but does lead to a lengthy list of sometimes minor criticisms). there were a bunch of minor problems, a few quality issues, and a couple of things particular to this specific boat (one of which is bothersome, but has nothing specifically to do with hanse).
however, i was wondering if anyone would comment on the following two points brought up which are more on my mind:
1. stainless rod chainplate/linkage (in cabin) seem small (i personally have never heard of these fracturing in a hanse, and it sounds like you folks are taking them out in big wind, although i admit they seem considerably smaller than those i've seen in comparable boats).
2. there was a trace of surface rust at the upper aspect of the iron strut of the keel - has anyone seen that? how worrisome do you consider this? surveyor wouldnt come down hard one way or the other (said prob minor, but could be major and would have to drop the keel to see)
he had some comments about mildly sloppy job with which the bulkheads were tabbed on (although at least they are tabbed on, unlike some other manufacturers), the glassing around the water tank had dehisced, didnt like scuppers draining into the aluminum steering linkage compartment under the cockpit sole, lack of true stuffing box for the rudder column etc but none of it was very damning. it is a very well laid out boat - seems more comfy everytime i get in.
thanks! and more to come after the engine survey. Edited by ArgleBargle - 09 October 2008 at 06:19 |
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ArgleBargle
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Posted: 09 October 2008 at 06:21 |
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just thought I would update to say that after the sea trial, survey, mechanical inspection, negotiations and discussions, I bought the 2006 370e.
sincere thanks to everyone for their very useful input and opinions.
i hope to be joining your forum more in the future.
if you want to know my (hardnosed) surveyor's criticisms of some design issues, I would be happy to share.
cheers
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Peter-Blake
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Posted: 09 October 2008 at 10:24 |
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Congratulations to your new boat
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