445 becomes a 455

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Such a beautiful, elegant and confortable boat!  But, as for a first sight, I don't like the battery case together with the engine and the stopper rear from the photo seems to be too near the winch, not having the ropes the right angle. Cheers Diego 

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bozzello Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 25 November 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote bozzello Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 February 2015 at 13:58
	Such a beautiful, elegant and confortable boat! But, as for a first sight, I don't like the battery case together with the engine and the stopper rear from the photo seems to be too near the winch, not having the ropes the right angle. Cheers Diego
	Diego

bozzello Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 25 November 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote bozzello Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 February 2015 at 11:34
	(photos from the link with "Yacht.de")
	Diego

GUHaus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 15 March 2015 Location: North East USA Status: Offline Points: 47	Post Options Post Reply Quote GUHaus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 March 2015 at 20:42
	Hi to all, I am happy to report the arrival of Hull #19 to NEB in December. We are very excited about the boat, and are looking forward to her launch. I am new to the forum, and would like to share some photos, but also have some questions to ask, opinions to obtain... There was a video posted with the 455 (brief shots of the boat) from the Boston Boat Show on Boston.com. http://www.boston.com/travel/boston/2015/02/19/need-winter-getaway-the-new-england-boat-show-has-plenty-picks/s3xeI4tpFJAyDNQXXs15aM/story.html Currently we are wrestling with the concept of davits for a dinghy. The rear transom/ swim platform is about 9 ft wide, making the davit placement a challenge. Any ideas that have worked on other models? Will post some more pictures when I figure out how to use the system better. Cheers Edited by GUHaus - 15 March 2015 at 21:18
	When in doubt go sailing

GUHaus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 15 March 2015 Location: North East USA Status: Offline Points: 47	Post Options Post Reply Quote GUHaus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 March 2015 at 20:47

	When in doubt go sailing

Samtutuki Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 12 November 2013 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 136	Post Options Post Reply Quote Samtutuki Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 March 2015 at 22:26
	Any ideas that have worked on other models? I have a 445 which is a little under a year old and I am also wrestling with how to carry my 2.6m RIB. Others on this forum suggest storing it on the foredeck but this is not quite so easy to do when sailing single handed which is most of the time for me. As you have recognised the size (width) of the swim platform make positioning davits awkward unless you have a much longer (and heavier) dinghy. For my dinghy the davits should be about 1400 mm apart which is not practical on a 445 (or 455 I guess). I have been doodling with a concept that involves hanging a bracket off the stowed swim platform to carry the dinghy vertically and attach a sketch of what I have so far. There will be a few more iterations before I commit to manufacturing a prototype with my local stainless steel fabricator. The key I think is to use the swim ladder socket to secure the brackets on place without having to make any other attachments to the boat. I have purchased an additional swim ladder socket that will be placed in the platform for the second bracket. I hope this is all understandable!! But if not drop me a line and we can discuss.

GUHaus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 15 March 2015 Location: North East USA Status: Offline Points: 47	Post Options Post Reply Quote GUHaus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 March 2015 at 02:59
	Samtutuki, I have been looking at a number of options. There is a good product that I found on line that has a very similar approach to your drawling. Check out snap davit at http://www.snapdavit.co.uk My concerns for their approach are the ability of the dinghy and the transom of the Hanse to merge correctly. Also what happens with the boat at heal, will the dinghy be in trouble? There was some information about a product on that web site for dealing with your engine that turns the engine to keep it mounted with the boat tilted.... I have been also looking at more traditional davit systems. The main problem that I have encountered is the distance between the mounting points for the davits. As you noted the distance for the transom door is quite large ~ ~ 108" (2743 mm) so the lifting points would be very wide. my Rib is 128" (3251 mm) and the distance between the lifting points is 91" (2311 mm) so that is slightly better for the davits than you describe. The work around that most people seem to take is a "lifting bar" which hangs from the davits, and then allows a secondary (narrower) attachment point to the dinghy. Kato has a davit that can toe inward, but the stern rail would need to be reinforced. Still trying to work out what that reinforcement would entail. Possibly jumper from the stern rail to the fiberglass. Also not sure just how much extension from the transom of the boat would be lost by toeing the davits inward. http://www.katomarine.com/saildavits-island.htm Another interesting option would be the Edson Marine davits. The davits that they sell could be mounted flush on the vertical transom with a mounting shoe. This would allow rapid removal of the davits if desired. http://www.edsonmarine.com/marinestore/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=88 I am currently scratching my head, trying to figure this out. I would like to be able to hoist my 108 lb/ 49kg dinghy, with 97 lb/ 44 lb engine and 3 gallon/ 19 lb/ 8.5 kg gas tank, without taking the engine off each time. I really appreciate what you have shown me, and will try to share the next several days worth of work with you on this davit issue. Derek
	When in doubt go sailing

Samtutuki Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 12 November 2013 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 136	Post Options Post Reply Quote Samtutuki Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 March 2015 at 10:35
	I note your dinghy is much heavier than mine. Mine is only 30kg and I do not intend to leave the engine on it regardless of the eventual storage method. Your links are interesting thanks. I have also looked at these :http://www.cooneymarine.co.uk/pages/davits-swivelling-75.html And Plastimo also have an interesting solution: http://www.plastimo.com My dinghy is no ;longer than the width of the swim platform so I do not anticipate and problems with it dragging in the water when the vessel is heeled. Also I am rather keen to keep the dinghy mass as low and as far forward as possible.Of course it is also necessary to secure the dinghy to the davits when underway to prevent unwanted movement. For all these reasons I am interested in the arrangement I have shown above. I would be very happy to hear from anyone who has had a good or bad experience with a similar set up.

Rapetitio Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 11 August 2014 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rapetitio Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2015 at 10:32
	Does anybody here can report about his/hers experiences with the new Hanse 455? Meanwhile there should be some in the water... Believe it or not: I still don't have a concrete date of delivery and this looks strange to me since the order (and the first payment) is with the yard since +6 months now! But when I visited the yard last time (in March) I have seen 455s under construction with higher s/n than mine... strange... Hope to hear about your experiences! Edited by Rapetitio - 08 May 2015 at 10:33
	Born to sail, forced to work!

Nerthuz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 25 December 2011 Location: Oslo, Norway Status: Offline Points: 67	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nerthuz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2015 at 20:53
	Hi Rapetitio. I will have my 455#045 delivered in Greifswald thursday next week, and then sail the boat back to Norway, some 340 nm. The contract was signed October last year with my norwegian dealer.

Rapetitio Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 11 August 2014 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 38	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rapetitio Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2015 at 21:40
	Hi Nerthuz Cool! I hope you will have a successful delivery and always fun with your new Hanse! I am curious to hear about your expieriences and to even see some pics.... Fair winds!
	Born to sail, forced to work!



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