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samuel
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Posted: 31 July 2013 at 07:30 |
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Re deck shower
My solution was to fit a valve in the stern locker so the supply could be turned off permanently.it is a simple thing to turn it on It also provides a place to disconnect the sprayhead for the winter to prevent freezing |
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Daydream Believer- Hanse 311- No GBR9917T- Bradwell Essex
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John K
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Joined: 08 November 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 73 |
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Posted: 31 July 2013 at 08:00 |
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Hi Chris
re: Main Halyard One way to stop it being released is to lead it back over the clutch and secure with a cable tie. Will still need to cut off and re-tension occasionally as even Dyemma creeps over time and will gradually lose some tension. Loss of any ability to adjust tension in the luff, but with IMF I don't think is an issue, and I cannot see adjustment achieving anything with full length vertical battens as close to the mast as they are. A thought, could probably secure the end in the mast with a cable tie to stop it coming off if that was part of the problem. John |
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<font color=BLUE>Former part owner 445 Four Four Fun, Pittwater, Sydney, Australia.[/COLOR]
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MikeMeer
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Joined: 23 January 2013 Location: Annapolis, MD Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Posted: 31 July 2013 at 16:32 |
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The primary difference between Selden and Sparcraft in mast furler is the support for the extrusions. The Sparcraft extrusions are free-standing where the Selden rigs have an internal stay that can be tensioned. Because of this the Sparcraft rigs need to be tuned straight. Excessive bend in the mast will cause problems while furling.
Another issues is boom angle. Proper boom angle ensures that there is equal tension on the foot and leach of the sail as it furls or unfurls. Play with the boom angle and see what works. Marking the topping lift and vang can let you have settings that can be duplicated quickly. We teach our clients to maintain a good amount of tension on the outhaul while furling to make sure the sail furls tightly inside the mast. A loose furl will clog the cavity with sail. This will be seen as multiple folds of sail trying to exit the mast at once. The fix for this is to pull the sail in and out while keeping tension on the fulring line effectively rolling the sail more tightly from the inside, like you would do with a poster or piece of paper. Sometimes the furling line will jump inside the drum. There is only enough room for the line to coil if properly seated inside the coils of the drum. A poor lead off of the block on the boom will cause this. Our favorite fix for this issue is to hang the block off of a foot or so of line. This allows it to properly align with the drum at any angle. |
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hanafe
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Posted: 01 August 2013 at 08:35 |
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Hi Chris,
I only have time now to answer your questions. We had a leak in the fresh water tank of our 445. This could be your situation as well. Depending where the crack is and how much water you have in the tank, the leaking varies a lot. Sometimes a lot some times not at all. Ours was at the water inlet at the tank. Therefore we only realized it when we the tank was completely filled and the boat was healing over. I posted some pictures under 445. I am sure you will find it when digging a bit. Hope this information is helpful to you. We have the Power Max Bow Thruster and so far no problems. We have a beep when it is down and therefore can not forget it. As well it comes up automatically if not used for a certain time. HanaFe |
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hanafe
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Posted: 01 August 2013 at 08:47 |
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following is the link to the water tank leaking
http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7326&title=water-tank-leaking It is under Chit Chat, sorry. HanaFe |
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John K
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Posted: 03 August 2013 at 10:38 |
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Hi Chris,
A couple of things with IMF. Was just at the Sydney Boat Show and was talking to the Selden Rep. He did not disagree with the cable tie in the mast socket to hold the tack and if your system is similar maybe a part solution. I won't say he agreed either as obviously had never come across the potential issue. He then referred me to another stand which was about washing and cleaning sails where they had a post treatment for sails using Sailcote Plus a Mclube (USA) product. If put on professionally said to greatly improve furling ability and life of sail. Not cheap though. Maybe worth looking into. I have now reread the Selden guide and as Mike has said they emphasise the importance of keeping some tension on the outhaul, however, as previously commented easier said than done when shorthanded. John |
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<font color=BLUE>Former part owner 445 Four Four Fun, Pittwater, Sydney, Australia.[/COLOR]
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pideas
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Posted: 05 August 2013 at 10:53 |
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Interesting message from Hanse Yachts:
Hanse 445 facelift"The new 445 will, besides this, as all Hanse models, be equipped with a high quality Selden rig."I already had insisted on a Selden rig and get it in 2011/12. Now Hanse chooses well but again a quality product. Edited by pideas - 05 August 2013 at 10:54 |
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Sailing is a Passion, ex Hanse 445, now Moody DS 54
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kemde
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Posted: 21 August 2013 at 11:12 |
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Hello,
i have a Hanse 445 as well and a friend has the same boat. We all had the freshwater problems, i twice ad he as far as i know at least as often. Check all connections/hoses/fittings inside the boat and retighten them. Espacially under the sink in the galley, they are just plugged togehter, one inside the other and not properly tightened. Don't forget the small hatches in the showers (front starboard !) and the showerpumps under floor. Can't help you with the sail, have a stadard main with three reefs. Cheers from Porto Santo Klaus Emde |
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kemde
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Posted: 21 August 2013 at 11:19 |
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Bowthruster: i sailed 800 miles at 7+ Knots with an open bowthruster because the display told me it was closed but wasn't. The motor that opens/closes it is by far too weak and the plastic fittings at the sides don't support the weight of the thruster either. Paid 1000 Euros for a repair but still have problems, sometimes it just doesn't open/close, reason unknown. Should have saved the 6000,- ...
But she sails very nice and fast :-) |
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ChrisStockholm
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Posted: 12 September 2013 at 20:09 |
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Hi all,
Again, thanks for all comments. Aided by a rubber hammer and a rig specialist, I finally got the mainsail back into the mast again (after it was jammed at the entrance). The main reason behind my problems, it turned out, was that the main halyard had been adjusted, so the angle of the main became wrong when furling. However, when taking a closer look in the Hanse manual, I noticed something important that I missed before (maybe because the section concerning the mainsail is not even a half-page long). It says that you should not use the electrical winch when furling the main. The e-winch is to powerful, it's going way to fast. When the clogging starts, it's to late to act. In fact, I had already begun to suspect that. But in my defense, the hand-over guy at Hanse used the e-winch several time to furl and unfurl the main on my boat ... Chris |
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