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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote H8jer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2022 at 15:56
Hi jawi

Nice installation.
Are the Jefa DD1 only used for backup? Or do I miss what the garmin is for?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jawi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2022 at 16:07
Thank you. Sorry for the unclarity. I briefly updated the post.  With garmin power unit I mean the power converter supplying power to the dd1 unit. There is also a garmin sensor unit and a garmin control display based on nmea that together with the dd1 forms the autopilot system. So the dd1 is the electro-mechanical actuator. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote perry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2022 at 18:18
Hi Jawi, very nice installation well done.
I liked the design of the Jefra drive unit but could not justify the price for my yacht. The Hanse agent in Port Hamble is renowned for high pricing, and they are the wrong side of the Solent for me to keep control of project.
 I obtained a substantial discount on my Raymarine equipment which clinched the deal.
I guess you will get as much enjoyment and benefit from proper Autopilot as we do.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jawi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2022 at 19:12
Hi Perry. Thanks a lot and thanks for the help. I got good inspiration from your post. Yes, the autopilot really improves our sailing experience:)
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Originally posted by Jawi Jawi wrote:

Thank you. Sorry for the unclarity. I briefly updated the post.  With garmin power unit I mean the power converter supplying power to the dd1 unit.   

Ok I have a Jefa DD1 on my boat and got confused and also a bit confused from the above because Garmin Reactor 40 is often sold with a hydrolic actuator and you mention power againLOL

But I understand that you have a Garmin autopilot Computer and controlpanel that control the DD1.

Btw. I think that this is a good choice because alone a B&G Precision-9 9-axis compass cost 2/3 of your Garmin setup that also include a 9-axis compass.

I was considering upgrading our compass, but now I know Garmin has this Kit to retrofit, I will go for this instead, when it is time to replace my Autopilot computer.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mistral Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2022 at 15:45
I prefer my 17th years old TP 22 Simrad. Less is more. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote perry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2022 at 16:41
Yes the TP22 is good.
If it should fail you?, my experience of this type may help:-

When removing/replacing case be very carefull with the screws once the threads pull out of the thin plastic you in trouble, new case from manufacturer is huge price. Si if you damage the case the manufacturers price for new case makes repair too expensive against new unit.

If threads fail it leaves only option to drill through and fit long screws and nuts.
If you have to fit screws and nuts to refix case you need to seal each screw/nut.
The silicone rubber seal is not robust and re-fitting it take your time and careful.

Having taken it apart a common failure mode is the small magnets moulded into the large drive wheel [these magnets pass two Hall efffect sensors to give the 'rate signal' for the microprosessor'. The erratic fault caused when the magnets move in the drive wheel due aging of the bonding. Re-fix magnets [Sikaflex or suitable adhesive and position magnets to pass near Hall sensors, but not touch. The rate sensor fault tends to start with erratic behavoir when hot and gets worse until full loss control.

Obviously other faults  may be easier to spot, like drive train etc, water ingress etc, I hope you never have to learn! but I hope this may help? Great Tiller Pilot when working properly.
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Thankk you for your advices. I bought and installed it by myself 17 years ago. Never serviced. It works properly. I hope also for the future.
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Hi,
congrats for this nice perfect solution.
I just want to do the same autopilot system from Jefa at my Hanse 320 this spring time.
Do you have more pictures and information of the working process?
Maybe you have also a list of the parts what you really need?
It would be very helpful for me.
Thanks a lot and nice regards from Austria!
Markus
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Originally posted by Jawi Jawi wrote:

Here is a brief update on the autopilot installation we ended up with for our Hanse 315 2007.
- DD1 from JEFA with integrated garmin rudder sensor.
- New tiller lever from JEFA, 7 degrees, to get approximate offset.
- Draglink from JEFA (200 to 300mm) with approximate 300mm setting
- Garmin reactor 40
- 10mm aluminum shelf for DD1 mounting
- Through hole aluminum shelf mounting on bulkhead with one layer fiber glass on each side.
- Fiber glass mounting platform for rear mounting of DD1 shelf.

So far happy with the solution after a few hundred nm.
- Approx. 1.3A to 1.7A average current Garmin oower unit consumption, fed from LiPO battery.
- Quite compact installation with the drive unit shelf close to rudder shaft. Still use the space in a similar manner as before.
- Integrated rudder sensor simplified the installation.
- No hole though hull.
- Noise level is a lot lower than with the previous wheel pilot. Not noticable with engine, can hear during sailing but not annoying.
- The garmin reactor autopilot has performed satisfactory. Seem to need some adjustment on response setting based on conditions, low response with close-hauled and wind following, and high response with running downwind and fixed heading.


Hi,
congrats for this nice perfect solution.
I just want to do the same autopilot system from Jefa at my Hanse 320 this spring time.
Do you have more pictures and information of the working process?
Maybe you have also a list of the parts what you really need?
It would be very helpful for me.
Thanks a lot and nice regards from Austria!
Markus
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