Larger Anchor?

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   Hi,
We are thinking of upgrading our 20Kg Delta for something bigger.

Wonder what other owners have replaced the standard anchor with and how big we can go without modifying the roller mechanism.

Many thanks,

Ian & Andrea
SV-Gabrielle

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G8WVW Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 09 August 2019 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 160	Post Options Post Reply Quote G8WVW Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Larger Anchor? Posted: 01 July 2020 at 07:17
	Hi, We are thinking of upgrading our 20Kg Delta for something bigger. Wonder what other owners have replaced the standard anchor with and how big we can go without modifying the roller mechanism. Many thanks, Ian & Andrea SV-Gabrielle
	Andrea & Ian Aboard SV Gabrielle (H445 #164) Portishead, SW England.

Semihh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 10 July 2020 Location: İstanbul Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Semihh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 July 2020 at 13:17
	Because of some problems with it I replaced 20kg with a 27kg Ultra anchor. Mechanism has no problem. But, you can’t insert the anchor stabilizer pin to the hole in larger anchor. This is a Hanse458

Ian Coverdale Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 19 June 2019 Location: Travelling Status: Offline Points: 311	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Coverdale Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 July 2020 at 01:27
	Smashing, thank you.

alain Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 24 September 2009 Location: Aegean Sea Status: Offline Points: 94	Post Options Post Reply Quote alain Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 July 2020 at 15:48
	I also replaced the 20 kg Delta with a 27kg Ultra -- a very good solution -- the only 'disadvantage' of the Ultra is that it tends to slip over weed where the Delta finds a way to dig in. As weed usually is not a good place anyway I don't think this has real importance.
	alain H445 #26

Deep River Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 15 December 2020 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote Deep River Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2021 at 12:34
	Hi Semih , I am from Izmir , I am thinking to replace Delta with Ultra 21 kg , which I have from my previous boat, Hanse has a 21 kg ultra anchor option for 455 ,the bigger is better of course but I think there is a space problem. did you have any problems with 27 kg in case if it hits the bow etc.?

Black Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 24 October 2015 Location: Newport, RI, US Status: Offline Points: 1275	Post Options Post Reply Quote Black Diamond Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2021 at 17:31
	I know this may seem a dumb question, but are you using all chain, chain/rope, or mostly nylon?
	Rick S/V Black Diamond Hanse 575 Build #192, Hull# 161 Newport, RI

Deep River Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 15 December 2020 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote Deep River Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2021 at 21:03
	No, I think it is a good question . I am using all chain 10mm and total 100 meters. I think chain has enough weight to hold the boat . My ex boat was a motorboat Azimut 42 , was equipped with 21 kg Ultra anchor , 10 mm, 80 meters all chain. I never had a anchoring problem. But this boat is new to me and I have no idea.

G8WVW Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 09 August 2019 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 160	Post Options Post Reply Quote G8WVW Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 February 2021 at 21:53
	We've still not decided which way to go with this yet. Our research found this guy on Youtube ... https://youtu.be/ua21k2abK1Q Thoroughly interesting. Independent testing that suggests some big-name high performance anchors don't quite match their reputation and the standard Lewmar Delta actually performs okay. Maybe we just need a a heavier Delta which is half the price of the 'high performance' alternatives. Any thoughts?
	Andrea & Ian Aboard SV Gabrielle (H445 #164) Portishead, SW England.

S&J Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 30 August 2014 Location: Perth WA / Med Status: Offline Points: 1371	Post Options Post Reply Quote S&J Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 February 2021 at 22:32
	What about the new Epsilon? This is Lewmar's answer to the next-gen anchors. It is reasonably priced and has the same shank as the Delta so will fit the bow rollers. Roll bar is optional. A 20kg costs around £290 but not available for a month or two so no real world tests yet. I found the Delta useless in weed and not much better in shingle but these are tough for most anchors. Excellent holding in all types of mud and ok on sand. Edited by S&J - 07 February 2021 at 22:33
	H458 #159 Primal Mediterranean cruising

Deep River Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 15 December 2020 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote Deep River Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 February 2021 at 23:02
	Hi , Is it only the anchor holding the boat or together with the chain? All the new generation anchors are designed to work with chain because they need certain angle to hold the sea bed. I am confused with the anchor test video. At 10 meters of depth I leave at least 50 to 60 meters of chain ( 10 mm ), which weighs almost 120 to 130 kg . At least the 10 meters of it lying in the sea bed so the anchor chain side can not rise up. I always try to stay away from weed. Thank you everyone who comments . Stay healthy .



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