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Br00tus 
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 Topic: 350 For Possible CircumnavigationPosted: 09 October 2007 at 20:05 |
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Having worked out my budget I am contemplating purchasing a 350 (test sail this weekend) with a view to using it as follows: Weekends + Hols sailing around UK (odd trip across to France / Channel Islands) until Sept 08. Then full-time sailing in the Med until Nov 08. ARC crossing 08. Then possibly on to follow the world ARC Itinerary.
I was hoping to afford the 370 but this is not going to be possible with my planned schedule. I am chasing my dream here and welcome any responses. I have budget for all the Bluewater equipment like Watermaker, extra water capacity, windvane steering and battery charging solutions etc ... my main concern is the size of the 350 and the fact that traditionally people recommend a heavy displacement type vessel. Any advice or thoughts ? |
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copain
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:39 |
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Hi Br00tus,
Very interrested in the result of your testsail on the 350 since we will have ours delivered in march 08.
Let us please know your findings.
Redards, Willem
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s/y Copain (Beneteau 281)
from march 2008 Hanse 350 # 061 Visit my BLOG op http://www.wsv-haringvliet.nl/blog/maatje/ |
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Nereide
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:52 |
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i think this is the main show (dream) stopper. World ARC is open to monohulls with a minimum LOA of 38ft [11.58m]
i myself am just considering the ARC atlantic on a H411, and still have many questions over the prep/installation of additional required equipment.
i though this could be of some interest anyhow, to think further on such a project.
Good Luck !
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Br00tus
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 19:35 |
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Thanks for the link - usefull.
While I aim to 'loosely' follow the World ARC Itinerary I will (can) not officially join it being <38ft. I intend to use it only as a guide to ensure I follow the safest route at the safest time of year. I figure they have done a lot of research and have more experience than I. When working out the min / max average speeds between legs, the larger vessel size seems to be reflected. My main concern is the limitations of the 350 - especially size longterm and any thoughts you guys might have on the plan or the 350 in general. Am I completely crazy or is the 350 up to such a trip and the only limitations being my own? |
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bjoris
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 23:32 |
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It is category A - Ocean so technicaly it should be up to such a trip, but by the time beeing, I am sure nobody actualy has done this... so it is a difficult question to get an answer for at this time. I am sure Hanse and Judel & W dont make a boat in class A without beeing sure it has the nessesary dimensions to handel condions in this category. But in practial use you must say it is made not for this kind of use, with is WC in the front, large cockpit and so one. I am sure it can be used for a tripp like this, but I think I would have choosen something else, myself. I do not have journeys like that in mind when ordering my 350... Edited by bjoris - 10 October 2007 at 23:33 |
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Alex Faber
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Posted: 11 October 2007 at 08:30 |
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Br00tus,
The way the Hanses are constructed is so much better than the majority of production yachts that took successfully part in previous ARC's! A head in the front could be less comfortable, but numerous yachts circumnavigated the globe this way and it is more important that your cockpit drains quickly than its size. If you rig your yacht properly and equip it according the requirements, it is not a question if the Hanse is up to the job. You only have to answer yourself if you have enough knowledge and experience to do it. |
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s/y eMotion (H430e #24)
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Junker
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Posted: 11 October 2007 at 08:56 |
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HI
I have crossed the north sea many times ( 20) in various conditions, and boats. ( from 30ft to 52ft)
This is short distances (200-250NM) and there is a lot of fishing/ oil activities, meaning there is always somone relativly close of you need assistance.
This is not the case if crossing the atlantic, and this will last for a long periode.
I would not have done the trip you are planning in a 350. ( at least a LOT of modification would be needed)
You should always plan for the worst case. I'm not thinking of the size, but more the general contruction and dimmensions, sails etc...
But when saying this, longer trips than what you are planning, many peoples have done before you, in much smaller boats.
Sorry if I sounds negative, but this is just my point of view.
For more input on what you need of the safety side, the internaional offshore regulations for racing is a good guide. You should aim for Cat 1 or Cat 0
You will find it here: http://www.isaf.com/specialregulations.php?PHPSESSID=3de2f1a63147fda6e3b320ff721551bc
rgds
Rune
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Nereide
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Posted: 11 October 2007 at 12:51 |
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there seems to be alot on interest on the subject, the article i inserted earlier has received an update, as attached.
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Nereide
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Posted: 11 October 2007 at 12:55 |
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and finally tips for the ARC.
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bjoris
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Posted: 12 October 2007 at 10:17 |
I guess your comment is in general for this kind of boats, size and price? If not I am most interessted in what you find with the 350 that does not make it up to such a travell. For example, it has good balast, with 32% keel weight and a T-keel that give even more stabilty than traditionell keels... Just as an example...
Myself I think I would have choosen a heavier and therefor a slower boat, but not nessasary bigger boat... H-Rassy, Najad or boats like that... But then again it would be 20 years old for the same price...
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