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    Posted: 11 May 2007 at 09:17
Hi.
 
latest race results from the Abstinenz crew:

In the regatta of this week we were met with a windforce of 14-22 knots. On the first upwind leg we had about 18-22 knots of wind and we took reef one and the selftacker (sheets in second lowest hole). It looked like to be a fair decision. A Hanse 315 with full main followed us but did not poit as high. When we reached the windward mark we reefed out and off we went on a reaching course. At the next mark we should have hoist the gennaker, but for some reason did'nt Confused . Still in front in our group at the next mark and going upwind again the wind had dropped to about 16 knots and Absitenz tacked beautyfully with full main and the selftacker, pointing the same high as a X-43. The 315 was left behind. At the downwind leg the gennaker/asymm. did it's job in the 14-16 knots of wind and doing about 170 dg. On the last upwind leg the wind was about 14 knots dropping to about 11-12 knots halfway and here we should have used the 130 % genua. We were underpowered and a totally kevlar equipped Bianca 107 just passed us, did some clever tacks and came in 1 minut before us.
We came in second in our group and are mooving up.....

Looking back we can conclude:
The standard selftacker is performing well (but not perfect) in windscale 16 knots+, but we should probably have the sheet in the middle hole in this windforce. 

The standard hallyards for fock/genua/main must be replaced with Dyneeme quality.

Though the X-99 is not in our group we outraced one of them in pure sailing time and thats a good feeling no matter how bad/good there crew are Tongue
 
The single line reefing system is operating nicely and fast.
 
We should not have considered hoisting the gennaker on the second reaching leg. Just do it!
 
The 130% genua is the optimum head sail for the 342 in windforce 5-14 knots.

Cheers
Steen & Anne
 
 
  
         


Edited by Abstinenz - 31 October 2007 at 10:55
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Congratulations Steen & Anne - looks like you are making great progress. It will be 1st place for you next time!
 
Enjoy your racing.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rubato Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2007 at 18:56
Steen and Anne,
Excellent account of the race. Congrats on doing fairly well and getting better!!!
 
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Steen & Anne, congratulations!
Very entertaining and informative report.
Would like to see more of those.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1REO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2007 at 21:06
Hi

How high (what angle) are you going when sailing upwind, and what was the boat speed? Do you use stoppers on the selftacking track?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abstinenz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2007 at 09:09
Hi,
 
Upwind we are going about 35 dg app. wind and in waves not exceeding 1 meter and windforces 12-20 knots we shall go minimum 6,2 knots. If we are doing less we are underpowered with "canvas".
 
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Interesting.  What Apparent Wind Angle (AWA) can you achieve in flat water?
 
We're finding that in some conditions we can get as high as 29 degrees AWA but more typically 30 to 32.  We're still trying to figure out the exact combination of conditions and set up that allows us to achieve our best pointing as it does not always seem to be repeatable.  The "groove" seems to be very narrow!
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1REO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:57
That is about the same figures i have come to as well, 29 degrees I think will be a bit high unless you are a bit ower powered? Have any of you tried to use stoppers on the self tacking track when sailing upwind. read some place that the ideal angel for sheeting headsail is 7-9 degrees from CL of the boat?
 
I am currently sailing with the two standard Nort sails, and in addition a 150% genua with medium/heavy cut in Dimentions Flex Aramid cloth, and a 93sqm APR asymmetrical both made by Doyle.
 
My next sail is probably going to be a heavy cut 108% in the same material. If anyone have any experience on sailing a 108% I would appreciate hearing from you.
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Hi
when sailing upwind I find that around 30 degrees AWA gives the best VMG on my 315 with the jib. This is normally the same in different forces of wind.
When you are doing 6,2 knots, what will your VMG be?
I have raced a lot with a X-99, and when the VMG was at top, the normal speed was about 6knots.
 
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Hi,
We can easely do 30 dg. AWA but it cost too much on the speed. We did 30 dg in the beginning and was thrilled about the high pointing, but just to learn that it was a sure way to loose the race. I believe, though, that if we have 4 man on the rail we can do better pointing and obtain a good speed also. The Hanse yachts are extreemly good runners from 40 dg to 160 dg AWA and fair tackers between 32-39 dg AWA. On running legs we can easely follow both X-332 and X-99.
200 kg more in the keel and a draft of +10 to 20 cm, a better and larger jib and the 342 would point much better, but indeed it's not bad allready Wink

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