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    Posted: 07 May 2024 at 17:48
Our Quick bowthruster (BTR 185) isn't pushing anymore. Meaning, it opens (and closes) properly, but instead of starting the motor there is just a click sound. What we can exclude: battery is ok, connectors look fine, wheels are turning freely. Any suggestions?
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Tobo2,

Did you check the fuse at the batteries? The batteries will still show good voltage but if the fuse is gone or has bad contact the thruster will not go. 

Did you check the voltage at the batteries when the thruster tries to start. If one or both batteries have failed the voltage will drop  when the thruster tries to start. When the thruster is not trying to start the batteries with no drain can show good voltage especially when they are being charged all the time.  

Check the battery cable connection to the thruster motor - loose? corrosion? 
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Hi Will, thanks for your tipps. So far it looked all fine and because the windlass also runs from this 24V batteries, we suspected something else. My dealer suggested to mesure the voltage at the exit of the "relais" . Anyway, the guys of our marina in Sardenia will have some homework to do, as they serviced the bowthruster just 2 weeks ago during the general winter works. Unhappy I will keep you updated, there is always something to learn ...

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At least here in the US,  I've had good luck calling QUICKUSA and discussing the problem over the phone.    They talked me thru one issue, which turned out to be a blown fuse, and my initial confusion regarding controller fuses and the actual thruster fuses.   Not sure if you have someone similar to call in Sardenia.

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I had to replace the control panel on my thruster last year. It was easy to find on-line and not hard to install - two or three wires as I recall. Quick was not very helpful with me. They even said they were short on personnel and way behind. It should have been covered under warranty but I couldn’t get them to respond and I gave up.
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In the meantime a Pro mechanics close to our homeport in Sardinia (http://www.nautitec.net/)   was aboard and measured the currents, concluding that the motor isn't responding. He will take it to his workshop the next days. Although we used it many times sailing from Germany to Greece in two seasons and visiting 120 marinas maneuvering a lot with the bowthruster, I was amazed of this verdict. Four years of use, approx 400 moves and already broken ?? Can't we expect a longer lifetime of these parts? I'll keep you updated.



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It's definitely the motor itsself. The mechanics demounted it - a quick job of 15 minutes.
Disassembling it will show what the issue was.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Black Diamond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2024 at 17:53
One of the things I learned early on was to use the thruster in short bursts.   Long runs for the thruster would damage the motor (I was told).    This may be a myth, but I've tried to keep to it.

Not sure if that matters in this case, but thought I would pass it on.    My damage to the thruster was caused by sucking in some line.   Others have told me that long bursts hurts the motor itself.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Arcadia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2024 at 22:47
Just curious. What is kW rating on that motor. It may be undersized. The bow motor on the 575 and 588 is 8.0 kW and does well with no issues regarding overheat. 
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I believe the BTR 185 was available with a 6.3  kW motor as an upgrade from the 4.3 kW.
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