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    Posted: 21 June 2024 at 06:04
Hi All,

I have ordered a 460 for delivery to Sydney AU hopefully by March next year.

Does anyone have an electrical wiring diagramme they can share?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cimbro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 August 2024 at 18:16
Abbiamo varato la nostra 460 a metà luglio di quest'anno e subito dopo siamo partiti per una crociera di un mese lungo la costa dalmata.
L'impianto elettrico ha creato subito grossi problemi che non sono ancora stati risolti. 
Mi hanno inviato lo schema elettrico in formato PDF. 
Se mi mandi i tuoi riferimenti privatamente, posso inviarteli
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Hi which kind of priblem you have.  In fact I have also some. For example i have noticed that  ni charges and understand that battery combiner is not working. We changed Vuctron CttixsCt combiner. Its still not work well. I am thinking to find originalbattery combiner.
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The problem is that the AGM batteries are not sufficient to power all the services that remain switched on even if everything is switched off.
My boat has two batteries of 160 AH each, I have already decided to install two more (I hope there is enough space).
After one night with all services switched off except the two fridges and the water pump, I find my batteries with only 36% charge (in the evening they were at 70%). I point out that one fridge consumes 4 A and another 2 A (but when the compressor is running... so not continuously).
It often happens that the switch that checks the state of the batteries senses low batteries and immediately disconnects all services and we have to be ready to reset it. The first time we had to look for it: it's under the sofa in the dinette. The trouble is that it jumps up and switches off all the electronic instruments, the anchor windlass, the manoeuvring propellers, the autopilot... and if you're sailing at that moment, it's not very nice...
You also have to be careful because even if you switch off the inverter from the small black panel, the MasterVolt inverter will work automatically if it does not feel the 220 dockside volts. This draws 1.6 amps. You have to operate the MasterVolt switch to really switch off the inverter (obviously if you don't need it, but at night you don't need it!).
I did a test: I disconnected the batteries and switched off the inverter and I can see that 0.9 amps are still being consumed. I will now try to understand how this can happen.
To conclude: too many electrical and electronic devices have been added that are not under switch and continue to draw power even if the batteries are disconnected. An example for all: the ‘Sentinel’ device that I do not want to use, requires a subscription that I will not make, but it is always on!


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If I turn off the red master service switch, the boat still needs about 70Ah a day.
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You are right!
I am an electronics engineering graduate, I confess I don't understand what all these Ah can be used for, now by removing the inverter I think I have brought it up to 22 Ah, but it still seems like a lot and I don't understand what it can be used for.
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In my case most of it is for the Internet-Router, Security-Cam and DC/DC-Charger for Bowthruster.
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I am not very comfortable even though I added 2 Victrons. When I turn on the third refrigerator, if I enter the night with 70% electricity, the protection fuse is activated.

 The Simarine on the boat actually has the capacity to show how much each appliance is consuming. However, Hanse has refrained from installing the necessary shunt for this. But I would like to have it installed somehow.

 Does anyone have information about the necessary product list and cost?
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Originally posted by Sahinsair Sahinsair wrote:

if I enter the night with 70% electricity, the protection fuse is activated.
I have 840Ah and set the battery protection to 15%.
What SOC did you choose for activating the battery protection?
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Simarine shunt SC303. 109,95€ on SVB one year ago. Supplied with connection cable to Simarine unit. You just need to add a power jumper beetween batt and shunt. I did connect it on minus. Very usefull to control charge and discharge.
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