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angorsan 
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 Topic: Sailing performancePosted: 26 January 2025 at 20:55 |
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Hi everyone.
It is still a few months till I step on my boat, but in preparation I would like to ask some questions about sailing performance. 1) Imagine you have both self-tacker and reacher on the second forestay on your boat. Now, you are about to enter the regatta where only self-tacker is allowed. What would you do to with the reacher: Take it down to be able to point upwind better or keep it furled since its bad influence on the airflow for jib is minimal? ( Iasked it in another thread, but maybe better to have all in one place). 2) Self tacking jib in light air going upwind - has anyone moved it further out with a block and extra sheet to get better airflow? Did it help in any noticable way? Thanks in advance for your comments!
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Lhsrris218
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Posted: 27 January 2025 at 18:38 |
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I think leaving it up is a good option. I would go with a Genoa for racing and not the self tacker.
Not sure why you would want the sail out more - keep it sheeted tight for upwind sailing.
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angorsan
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Posted: 27 January 2025 at 19:10 |
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Well, perhaps I can use it, but the handicap would level the potential advantage.
It is hard to tell if this handicap would favor me or not - hence the question ;) In regards to moving the sail out more - I got the idea from this video:
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Arcadia
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Posted: 27 January 2025 at 20:28 |
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So the video reference is for REACHING, not close hauled upwind. I have used this option many times and it is very effective.
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angorsan
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Posted: 27 January 2025 at 20:35 |
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Indeed, for "close hauled" it would be a no go.
Sorry, I am more used to Dutch points of sail names, sailing English is my second language
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Arcadia
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Posted: 28 January 2025 at 20:39 |
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The trick is to lead the new sheet very much forward. These self tacking sails have a very low clew, so the sheeting angle needs to be downward in order to prevent twist. Start with a location in line with the jib traveler. Once I had the best location, I fixed a heavy pad eye to take the turning block.
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Leon / ARCADIA
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Lhsrris218
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Posted: 28 January 2025 at 21:26 |
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Good idea. Thanks
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angorsan
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Posted: 29 January 2025 at 07:57 |
On 460 there are 2 padeyes just in line with the st. jib traveler, I think they should do the trick just fine.
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Martin&Rene
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Posted: 02 February 2025 at 12:05 |
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Angorsan
I consider controlling the twist of the jib downwind is vital. We sail 2 up in an area with gusty and variable wind conditions, so it is not often we get out cruising chute out. I have been telling Hanse sales people for years that they should put something on the yachts so people can set up a barber hauler system. I think that pad-eye you mention is a good starter. This thread shows how I set a barber hauler on the jib and we use this all the time. Almost every time we do do a major adjustment of the jib sheet, I will adjust the barber hauler at the same time. |
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Martin&Rene Hanse 341 Dipper Wheel steering, 3 cabin layout, normally based in Scotland
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jtjk
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Posted: 18 February 2025 at 12:33 |
Btw, what was your order number? Do you know your hull number already? When did your order and what is scheduled date? I was just placing an order
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