Forward hatch drains

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   The forward Lewmar hatches on our 575 drain via canals that flow from the hatch above the master cabin into the canals for the sail locker and from there into hoses that drain into the anchor locker.      On occasion I clean out the canals with a snake and scrub/wax them so things don't get stuck, but in general you'd think it would work satisfactorily if the trim on our 575 was correct.  Gravity is usually pretty dependable. 

Our trim is not what it should be. 

Our bow sits pretty high out of the water and instead of draining, the water pools back near the hatches and (unless you have a nice clean seal on the hatch) can drip into the boat.     

I've tried to trim it out.   In addition to our sail locker containing a cruising spinaker,    four bicycles (2 of which are e-bikes and thus heavy),   a spare anchor,   beach accoutrements, boat hooks, spare bike tires, lines, fenders, etc.  I've  put 30 gallons of bottled water,  cases of canned food,  cases of dog food (for our 2 dogs),  and anything else I could stick in the sail locker.   The only thing not standard aft  (I assume it matters there as well) is the outboard motor hanging on the stern rail.   There is 300' of stainless chain in the anchor locker.   All chain, no rope. 

I've avoided just putting useless ballast in there (lead or iron ingots) for the sake of trim,  but I'm getting the feeling I'm HUNDREDS of pounds off.    My wife and I standing on the bow does not affect the trim.     I'm guess its going to take 500lbs or so to make a dent.

Do others have this issue as well?     If so,  how did you solve it. 

Rick

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Black Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 24 October 2015 Location: Newport, RI, US Status: Offline Points: 1275	Post Options Post Reply Quote Black Diamond Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Forward hatch drains Posted: 09 June 2025 at 19:47
	The forward Lewmar hatches on our 575 drain via canals that flow from the hatch above the master cabin into the canals for the sail locker and from there into hoses that drain into the anchor locker. On occasion I clean out the canals with a snake and scrub/wax them so things don't get stuck, but in general you'd think it would work satisfactorily if the trim on our 575 was correct. Gravity is usually pretty dependable. Our trim is not what it should be. Our bow sits pretty high out of the water and instead of draining, the water pools back near the hatches and (unless you have a nice clean seal on the hatch) can drip into the boat. I've tried to trim it out. In addition to our sail locker containing a cruising spinaker, four bicycles (2 of which are e-bikes and thus heavy), a spare anchor, beach accoutrements, boat hooks, spare bike tires, lines, fenders, etc. I've put 30 gallons of bottled water, cases of canned food, cases of dog food (for our 2 dogs), and anything else I could stick in the sail locker. The only thing not standard aft (I assume it matters there as well) is the outboard motor hanging on the stern rail. There is 300' of stainless chain in the anchor locker. All chain, no rope. I've avoided just putting useless ballast in there (lead or iron ingots) for the sake of trim, but I'm getting the feeling I'm HUNDREDS of pounds off. My wife and I standing on the bow does not affect the trim. I'm guess its going to take 500lbs or so to make a dent. Do others have this issue as well? If so, how did you solve it. Rick
	Rick S/V Black Diamond Hanse 575 Build #192, Hull# 161 Newport, RI

Arcadia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 27 November 2017 Location: Sag Harbor, USA Status: Offline Points: 1112	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arcadia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 June 2025 at 21:10
	Same here, but has not been a big problem. When water accumulates, there is usually enough pitching fore and aft (even at the mooring), to send the water down the channels. And yes, at times water did sit long enough to come into the hatch and also cause a bit of corrosion on the powder coated frame. I cleaned up around the frame and laid a heavy bead of 5200 around the entire seam where the frame meets the deck. No trouble since then but it won’t last forever.
	Leon / ARCADIA 2018 Hanse 588 Sag Harbor, NY

Black Diamond Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 24 October 2015 Location: Newport, RI, US Status: Offline Points: 1275	Post Options Post Reply Quote Black Diamond Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 June 2025 at 23:55
	Did you try to trim it out? I agree, not that serious, but annoying.
	Rick S/V Black Diamond Hanse 575 Build #192, Hull# 161 Newport, RI

Arcadia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 27 November 2017 Location: Sag Harbor, USA Status: Offline Points: 1112	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arcadia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 June 2025 at 03:12
	No I didn’t try to trim the bow down. The boat sails well in the current trim and as you discovered, it would take an unreasonable amount of ballast to do the trick.
	Leon / ARCADIA 2018 Hanse 588 Sag Harbor, NY

Pzucchel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 13 March 2020 Location: floating Status: Offline Points: 659	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pzucchel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 June 2025 at 07:12
	same here, but not very dramatic either. i see that the water hangs around, but it doesn't have any particular impact on the sail locker content. i have heavy things in the sail locker (two anchors, watermaker secondary tank) and a second forestay that should have a significant momentum effect being very forward. I thought it was more an incorrect design of the water conducts than an incorrect attitude of the boat...this opens another subject: i may have a fraction of a degree tendency of my boat to have a static rolling angle towards port. I have replaced the batteries with lithium surely lighter, and this is true also with the starboard tank full / port empty. the most obvious reflection would be keel misalignment - does anybody see anything similar? again, it's something barely perceptible... Edited by Pzucchel - 10 June 2025 at 07:13
	Hanse588#55

Arcadia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 27 November 2017 Location: Sag Harbor, USA Status: Offline Points: 1112	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arcadia Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 10 June 2025 at 12:08
	When my boat was delivered it had about a 1 degree list to port. At the time there were other owners talking similar trim issues across the product range. Others may not have noticed. Anyway, based on the 588 righting moment, it would take about 600 lbs placed 7 feet outboard to heel 1 degree. I solved the issue by moving the isolation transformers (USA ONLY) from port to starboard, installing a second house bank to starboard and adding a bit of ballast behind the galley area.
	Leon / ARCADIA 2018 Hanse 588 Sag Harbor, NY

saildrifter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 01 July 2025 Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote saildrifter Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 July 2025 at 05:17
	Our 588 has this issue. Water drains towards the bow but not far enough to drain out of the canals, then pools around the master cabin hatches and causes them to leak. It's a very poor design. We plan to reseal the hatches, but not sure much else can be done...

Pzucchel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 13 March 2020 Location: floating Status: Offline Points: 659	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pzucchel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 July 2025 at 11:12
	a simple question: is the hatch water drain badly designed, or the attitude of the boat is wrong and the bow is too high ? do the different keels affect the attitude ? the t-top?
	Hanse588#55

Arcadia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 27 November 2017 Location: Sag Harbor, USA Status: Offline Points: 1112	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arcadia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 July 2025 at 19:06
	Bad design for sure. The drainage channels should have been deeper with more of a slope. Easily done because they drain well above the waterline in the chain locker.
	Leon / ARCADIA 2018 Hanse 588 Sag Harbor, NY

Wild Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vice Admiral Joined: 18 March 2010 Location: Turkey-Greece Status: Offline Points: 937	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wild Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 July 2025 at 11:08
	This is a old pain in the a…. From the beginning 2009-2010 Hanse start with the Lewmar flush hatches and the bad coating of the alu frames doesn’t help with corrosion and leaking hatches as the result. There are several threads about this on the forum. A other proof Hanse pay no attention on the feedback of their customers 😭🤬
	Wild and Wet Belgium 545e#268



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