Fuel Tank Sensor Replacement

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I am posting this under Chit Chat, as it obviously concerns all models. Hanse uses a mechanical automotive sensor, which often gets stuck and provides erroneous readings.
Within 10 minutes this can be corrected by a drop in interchangeable capacitive Phlippi sensor.
You to order the following parts ( example is for the 160 ltr tank on Hanse 345 ):
1) Tanksensor TGT 250 P/N 6 6011 7081 ( Other models check the tank height ¨)
2) Adapterflange P/N 6 6010 9010

Remove the old sensor, place new seal over the SAE hole pattern and screw adapter flange into existing threads ( don't forget the little O-ring seals on the screws ! )
Screw new sensor into adapter and connect into existing wire

Edited by Fendant - 18 August 2015 at 14:49

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Fendant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 03 November 2012 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1671	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fendant Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Fuel Tank Sensor Replacement Posted: 18 August 2015 at 14:47
	I am posting this under Chit Chat, as it obviously concerns all models. Hanse uses a mechanical automotive sensor, which often gets stuck and provides erroneous readings. Within 10 minutes this can be corrected by a drop in interchangeable capacitive Phlippi sensor. You to order the following parts ( example is for the 160 ltr tank on Hanse 345 ): 1) Tanksensor TGT 250 P/N 6 6011 7081 ( Other models check the tank height ¨) 2) Adapterflange P/N 6 6010 9010 Remove the old sensor, place new seal over the SAE hole pattern and screw adapter flange into existing threads ( don't forget the little O-ring seals on the screws ! ) Screw new sensor into adapter and connect into existing wire Edited by Fendant - 18 August 2015 at 14:49
	Frank

415 Singapore Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vice Admiral Joined: 23 September 2013 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 935	Post Options Post Reply Quote 415 Singapore Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 October 2015 at 09:32
	Hi thanks for this, we too were getting fed up with crazy readings on the fuel sensor, so have changed the fuel sensor as you described above, having first checked the depth of the tank However I decided to go one stage further and replace the water tank sensors at the same time, so measured the depth of those too! However not being an electrician It didn't occur to me that they original water tank sensors work differently and have 5 wires instead of the two on the Philippi TGT sensors, is there a work around to this or do I have get new new sensors? Any thought would as ever be much appreciated All the best Paul - Night Train
	Paul - Night Train - 415 #136

Fendant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 03 November 2012 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1671	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fendant Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 October 2015 at 06:01
	Hi Paul, the TGT sensor is resistance based. I did the same. You only need two wires. I used the two outer wires from existing cable from the tank to the switch panel. You can either cut the plug off or use a standard electronics male connector to get the two wires connected to the display instrument. Does the thread of the TGT sensor fit into the existing crappy 5 wire Osculati flange ?
	Frank

415 Singapore Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vice Admiral Joined: 23 September 2013 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 935	Post Options Post Reply Quote 415 Singapore Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 October 2015 at 06:59
	Hi Frank Thanks for the reply, do you have the Wuerth panel? I have been told that if you bridge pin 1 and pin 5 of the 5 pin connector at the panel it will work. I am still not sure which of the five wires I should use to connect the new sensor and have asked for further clarification. Unfortunately the TGT sensor thread is far larger than the existing flange, but I am reasonably confident I can resolve that bit, it is the electrics that baffle me!
	Paul - Night Train - 415 #136

Fendant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 03 November 2012 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1671	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fendant Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 October 2015 at 07:44
	Hi Paul, I used the split flange with the 1 1/4" thread to mount the sensor. However I did not connect it to the Würth Panel. I used the Phlippi TCM tank Monitor instead. As this is a pure resistance measurement i used wire 1 and wire 5. I am not sure if this works with the Würth Panel. At least you need to c.hange the Input o 0 - 180 Ohm. Just try it out, ist digital, it either works or not.
	Frank

spam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 22 February 2017 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 96	Post Options Post Reply Quote spam Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2021 at 02:02
	Hi All: I am trying to mount a decent water sensor in the water tank. Managed to pull the crappy 5 wire one out after some persuasion and found the port is really tiny. Looks like the hole is about an inch diameter. How did you go about installing your sensors? What sensor did you use. The standard KUS/Wema ones I am aware of are around 1.4" and the flange is around 1.5". Did you just drill another whole in the tank? Drill out the flange that is there? Or can it somehow be made larger? Harold Ventus, Boston Hanse 415/#314

Merinalle Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 16 January 2007 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 292	Post Options Post Reply Quote Merinalle Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2021 at 06:19
	I left the old system as it was. Just installed a new sensor to another place, and a new gauge and an ON/OFF switch next to the panel.
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Fendant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 03 November 2012 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 1671	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fendant Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2021 at 10:49
	Same here!
	Frank

richz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 02 September 2013 Location: Milan Status: Offline Points: 242	Post Options Post Reply Quote richz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2021 at 20:13
	I used the same hole; obviously you need to widen it to adjust it for the flange size.


spam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 22 February 2017 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 96	Post Options Post Reply Quote spam Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2021 at 21:30
	Great, thanks for the feedback. For those that installed a new flange, did you bed it? If so what did you use sikaflex or something else? Or do you just rely to the rubber seal? Did you bolt through and have nuts on the inside (I noticed the inspection hatch is open) or screw in the tank?



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