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    Posted: 20 March 2008 at 13:48
My wife Nicole and I have just ordered a 630E for delivery in June 2008 , hull 035. The exact options we must specify until April 21  . The boat we will use to sail in the Med (shorthanded) and also in club racing. 
Any hints from owners forum on issues that we should consider ?  We would like to add a third pair of winches, but we dont know if there is enough free space nor if the deck is strong enough. Any suggestions are wellcomed. We also need a bimini top but I hate INOX tubes.
 
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I have added winches to my 540.  See link for further information

http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1395&PID=13737#13737

The 630 is very different to the 540 configuration and I have no idea about the construction of the 630 or how much work it would take to add winches.

I have added a lot of extra equipment to my 540.  You can see a list on the 540 forum at the following link. 

http://www.myhanse.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1409&KW=&PID=9496#9496

Hope this is of some help.



Edited by Richard108 - 19 April 2008 at 01:14
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congratulations on your choice! if you plan to be around Malta drop me an email!

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For my new boat (her name to be MMBW Nicole) I am considering selecting a 4 to 14 knots 105%  medium-light jib (to be used mostly while racing), a 12 to 20+ (selftacking ) 95% jib for everyday use and while racing in windy conditions, a 3 reef offshore main and one medium-light gennaker for up to 20 knots of wind. My prefered supplier is North sails ,3DL with tafeta backing for main and 95% spade and just 3DL for the 105%. Does anyone has experiance with 3DL sails on a big boat as mine. Until now I only had these sails in my previous boat (first 36.7) used only for racing.
 
 
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Lernea Hydra (first 41S5 -1992) for sale
GANT-Lernea Hydra II (first 36.7) sold
MMBW Nicole (Hanse 630e, June 2008)


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hello Shawn,

Thank U for the invitation. Malta is in our plans, but not for this summer as the boat will be new and we prefer to sail near home waters first. Certainly I will e-mail you before planning a crossing to Malta. I hear from friends that visited, it is beautiful.

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PS. I hope Hanse to keep the schedule and deliver our boat in June.
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Panos,
I read with interest your plans for your sail inventory. I realize that a boat the size of the 630 is quite different than my 400 although being a Hanse I'm sure they have some similar characteristics. As such, my experience is that on the 400 a 108% maxi jib starts being effective around 7-8 knots of breeze. Below that we aren't the least bit competitive with the rest of the fleet. I'm now looking at getting a 135% as well to help in that low range. Perhaps in your sailing area the breeze will rarely get that low but here on the west coast of Canada it is unfortunately in that range all too often.
 
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Hi Panos

I have a 108% Jib and can fully recommend it.  I was interested in getting also a larger jib about 135% for light airs but my sail maker said that I would not be able to lift it and it would be a problem to change to it. 

I also have heavy weather self taking jib about 87% (no vertical battens) for the times when the wind gets up.  I have used this jib in 35 knots and it was great.  To me a 105% and a 95% are a bit close but of course my use is very different to yours. 

I also have a storm jib (on its own removable furler) and am about to order a cruising Gennaker also on a furler that will go on a retractable bowsprit. 

This gives me the following headsail option
23m2 (storm Jib)
47m2 (heavy self taker)
72m2 (108% jib)
150m2 (Gennaker)

Which seemed like a good range of sails to me. 

I looked at Doyle, North and Quantum laminate sails and choose Quantum sails as it appeared the quality of sail was similar to 3DL sails at much lower cost.  The Quantum sails I got had both Carbon and a fibre they call Technora which seemed to be a better mix than what Norths could offer me.
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Originally posted by Rubato Rubato wrote:

Panos,
I read with interest your plans for your sail inventory. I realize that a boat the size of the 630 is quite different than my 400 although being a Hanse I'm sure they have some similar characteristics. As such, my experience is that on the 400 a 108% maxi jib starts being effective around 7-8 knots of breeze. Below that we aren't the least bit competitive with the rest of the fleet. I'm now looking at getting a 135% as well to help in that low range. Perhaps in your sailing area the breeze will rarely get that low but here on the west coast of Canada it is unfortunately in that range all too often.
 
Cheers, Steve
 
Dear Steve,
 
I agree, but also the certificate with a 135% genoa will reflect the competitiveness and get a bigger penalty and I will need 15 persons on the rail = 25 persons team to keep the sail!! No thanks, I used to race a small boat for 10 years (a First 41s5 and First 36.7 later) and a had a 12 persons team , so that we could find 7 available to race. This is the reason I sold the boat and said that I will race for fun only. If there is not enough wind to win we will lose , and if we are not having fun, we will DNF.
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Hi Richard,
 
I am already in Germany and tomorow I will visit Hanse. I have a full page of questions. Now I think I have a new one about your retractable bowsprit. I think installing one is a great idea, but I left it for after I receive the boat. I wellcome all ideas about installing one. Shipman boats, which look similar to ours have one, but the delivery time was 2 years, not to mention the 50% higher price.
Did you ever try the furling storm jib. My sailmaker told me that the jibs and code zero sails on their own furling gear (that can be hoisted rolled-up) take a lot of space in the boat and should be kept hoisted while sailing, even when not in use, so I think I must go for  gennakers (g1 and g2) whith a sleeve (snuffer as North is calling it) and a normal storm-jib with old fashions hooks to attach to a removable inner forestay. But I am open to all those issues since easy shorthanded sailing is very important for us.
By the way, because of the strong Euro, North sails are very price competitive being imported from America.
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Hi Panos

About the Bow Thruster.  I will respond about the sails separately.

Here are some pictures of the bow Thruster. 

From what I hear the Max Power ones are the best. 

It has worked well for me, except no electrical equipment is going to like moisture or salt water like I had in my sail locker.  I had water coming in from my anchor locker through the holes drilled for the electrical connection to my windlass.  I have therefore chosen to move as much of the electrical parts of the bow thruster into a waterproof see through box to protect the electronic parts as much as possible.

Also there appears to be a problem of sheets or people standing on the control toggle in the cockpit and breaking it, so be careful where you put it and it may need to be protected.
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