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    Posted: 12 October 2014 at 17:37
Hello all,
 
I want to lower my rudder in order to check the bearings and rudder shaft. I assumed that the black ring in picture will hold the rudder up, so I removed all(?) three set screws. The ring is now loose, but moves only a few millimeters up and rotates only abt. 5 degrees.
 
What am I missing here? Any advice appreciated.
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Yep, I quess that's the way to go.
 
But before that I will once again check that all fasteners are removed, don't want to break anything.
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Hi Sailingjack,
 
On my 341 it is only those three grub screws defying gravity. Maybe just a tight fit in the bearings.
 
I've had my rudder off twice.
 
Regards
 
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The rudder īs actualy floating so that when the boat is in the water there is small chance to lose it since it is pushing up against the lower bearing.
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Thank you Gents for your comments. You were right, it took some light tapping with a hammer to get the ring loose, bearings were a tight fit and the rudder is floating in water and chafing against the hull.
 
The boat is on the hard now and I managed to lower the rudder a few centimeters in order to check rudder shaft condition. Didn't need to loosen or remove any steering link, wire or chain.
 
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Here the ring is lifted. Surprisingly not a groove in the shaft for the set screws to reach, just friction on a smooth shaft.
 
 
Here the rudder lowered. No corrosion, thanks to low salt Baltic Sea water. Maybe I attach a piece of stainless steel plate to hull in order to protect it against wear.
 
 
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Hi Sailingjack,
 I have a 400 from 2006, so there are some differences, but your rudder looks awfully misaligned with the hull line to me. Mine has the top side parallel to the hull and the shaft is at a right angle with the top. The ruder never, in any condition touches the hull, and I honestly believe it shouldn't. 
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Originally posted by Sailingjack Sailingjack wrote:


 Maybe I attach a piece of stainless steel plate to hull in order to protect it against wear.
 


Why stainless? surely your rudder shaft is aluminium
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Contact to JEFA is the best solution!
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Originally posted by panos panos wrote:

The rudder īs actualy floating so that when the boat is in the water there is small chance to lose it since it is pushing up against the lower bearing.

You might find this video interesting. I filmed it a few years ago to show the buoyancy of my rudder. Before I tried this I thought the rudder would disappear under the boat if I removed the locking screws. 

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