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    Posted: 18 October 2005 at 17:06

I have just ordered a new 315 for delivery next year.  It seems the 315 is the only Hanse model without a fuel gauge, and Hanse Uk quote £495 to fit one.

1.  Does anyone have information on fuel efficiency - i.e engine running time per litre of diesel?

2.  Has anyone fitted a gauge themselves?

Otherwise the boat seems to have everything, except a grill on the cooker - apparently the Germans do not realise the importance of toast!

 

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Hi Tony

I bought a brand new 312 last year. I ordered a fuel guage as an extra to be fitted by the dealer. I can assure you it did not cost anything like the figure quoted - much cheaper. I shall'nt say how much but either they sold it at a loss or there is a good profit in it for the dealer at the price you're referring to. since I was there when they installed it, I can say it took 2 guys about 2 hours, though this is probably longer than it should, because they had to go away to get a circular hole cutter and really it was only a one man job anyway!. my suggestion is either see if you can negotiate with Hanse or alternatively have a word with a local marine electrician for an alternative quote.

With respect to whether you need it. I think the engine must be fairly efficient. It takes a lot of motoring to empty the tank. I'm always surprised at how little fuel has been used whenever I look at the guage. Against that I dont think you could conveniently 'dip' the tank - would require a flexible rod and standing on the side deck. It is very comforting to know how much fuel you've got - diesels dont like running dry- bleeding injectors etc! I think the comfort factor makes it a must for me!

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Originally posted by tony1 tony1 wrote:

1.  Does anyone have information on fuel efficiency - i.e engine running time per litre of diesel?

Hi,

Based on two summer's worth of experience with a 312, the average consumption is pretty close to 1 liter/hour. This is based on sailing habits of only motoring in and out of harbours, and occasionally motoring on calm days at 3000 rpm.

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Susanne

 

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536 Hours now on the clock. Volvo 2020MD standard 2 bladed prop.Standard fin 315 Hanse

Average is 1.66 litres over whole period .normally do about 5.9 Knots at 2800 revs. In the Dutch canals over 2 lots of 2 week holidays we did a bit less - about 1.3 litres - averaging about 5.5 knots.

Highest consumption was in a severe gale when we could not carry main as 2nd reef was too big. Consumption went up to about 1.9/2.0 litres per hour. But we were really struggling in head wind.

 

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Hi,

I think 1-1,5 is the effektive Yanmar 2GM20 fuel consumption. You need to remember that you maybe have a diesel heating. Therewith you don't have a hour counter.

I would talk to a local service partner because the gauge cost's 100-200€ (a good one) and it shouldn't take longer than 2 hours.

I think about building in one with a switch also for a water gauge.

Regards Thomas.

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I bought a brand new 311 in 2002 (hull #101) and it did come with a fuel gauge.  It is down below next to the battery charger panel.  It even has back lighting so I can see it in the dark. 

I burn about 1 to 1.5 liters per hour depending the seas and the RPM's I am at.

Matt

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Hello

There is a formula for liters per hour over horse, however I have lost it. I think 25 hp is 4 lts or one US gal.

I work on 2 lts per hour,so clock hours on fill up and always have plenty in reserve, when tank is in theory low.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BlueMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 October 2005 at 15:56

You'll find a fuel consumption graph for the 3YM20 here....

http://www.yanmarmarine.com/products/pdf/GM_YM/3YM20_TechDat a.pdf

Between 1 and 2 litres per hour fits with our year of experience with our 2GM20. We keep filling up too early as well since we don't have a fuel gauge either.

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Tony

I have a 3YM30 on my 312 and the fuel consumption figures at the lower revs seem to agree with those given on the Yanmar website that Andrew mentions above - i.e. between 1 and 1.5 litres per hour.

Without a fuel gauge I was always filling up early as well. The problem is that if you increase the engine revs to overcome a strong head wind the fuel consumption can go up to 3 litres per hour so you have to apply caution to any calculated consumption.

Last winter I fitted a plastimo fuel gauge and sender which from memory cost about eighty pounds. I fitted the sender unit into the tank access hatch which could be drilled off the boat and avoid getting swarf into the tank. The gauge itself I fitted next to (and wired into) the engine switch panel. The only problem I have is it tends to read low. So when the tank is full it reads just over 3/4 full. When it reads empty the tank is still over 1/4 full. I think this may be excessive resistance on the sender wiring so this winter I may try increasing the wire thickness. But the gauge does give an indication of what's left and currently reads on the safe side.

I put a similar gauge into the water tank.

 

Tank sender fitted to hatch

Sender unit in place

Fuel gauge in Cockpit

Hope this may be of help

Regards

Alan



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Where is the tank situated?
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