Lithium batteries

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   Hi. Has anyone taken delivery of a 460 with factory supplied Lithium batteries? If so can they share some initial thoughts.

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ariette Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 12 August 2013 Location: med Status: Offline Points: 202	Post Options Post Reply Quote ariette Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Lithium batteries Posted: 21 June 2023 at 12:35
	Hi. Has anyone taken delivery of a 460 with factory supplied Lithium batteries? If so can they share some initial thoughts.
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Sahinsair Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 14 January 2023 Location: Kaş Status: Offline Points: 68	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sahinsair Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 August 2023 at 11:57
	I have intended and changed my mind. The dealler couldnt sy the brand of the litium batterys. I would preffer to speaks all battery's and controller systems. For that reason i didn't ortdered inverter as well. I was thinking to put Victron inverter and mppt, charge controller etc. I have chosen to buy jeneratör with that money. Then after I will put victron equipment. The factory doesnt put this brand.

kemalgunduz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 09 October 2013 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote kemalgunduz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 August 2023 at 16:26
	As far as I know, the factory uses Lifos brand for LiFePo4 batteries. This is seen on their online spare part shop www.hanseboatonn.com. The RRP on the site is around 2200 Euros including VAT. However if you check by German chandlery www.svb24.com you will see that the same Lifos battery is ex VAT something around 760 Euros

kemalgunduz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 09 October 2013 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote kemalgunduz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 August 2023 at 16:28
	Lifos has been chosen as a good LiFePo4 type of battery by an English caravan and boat magazine in terms of price / quality ratio

H8jer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 14 September 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 1503	Post Options Post Reply Quote H8jer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 August 2023 at 17:00
	Renogy 100Ah is 399 euro. https://eu.renogy.com/12v-100ah-smart-lithium-iron-phosphate-battery/
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H8jer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 14 September 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 1503	Post Options Post Reply Quote H8jer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 August 2023 at 15:16
	Here is another brand that I would consider if I did not already have lifepo4. https://www.litime.de/ Youtube review: https://youtu.be/tAaThjkazkM
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Arcadia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 27 November 2017 Location: Sag Harbor, USA Status: Offline Points: 1112	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arcadia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 September 2023 at 02:05
	I have 1500 amp hours of Litime LFP batteries and can recommend them highly. They have surpassed my expectations and factory service and attention is top notch. They have a very comprehensive BMS on board which manages everything needed for charging and discharging. So much so that they are a drop in replacement for AGM with no changes to charging systems.
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Darek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 16 January 2024 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Darek Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 January 2024 at 16:52
	hallo everyone, what should be the voltage of fully charged lithium battery? I just joined with my new H460 and i have lifos lithium battery bank with inverter/charger from MasterVolt. This setup is original from shipyard. Lithium batteries are new to me. I can see 13.2V and it looks to me 70-80%. I requested the dealer to investigate.
	Darek "Summertime" Hanse 460 #92

Mark_J1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 12 March 2013 Location: Dover&Medway UK Status: Offline Points: 690	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mark_J1 Report Post Thanks(2) Quote Reply Posted: 16 January 2024 at 22:10
	Table of LiFePO4 voltage v SOC. Might help you. Note these are resting voltages, not charge voltages. Not clear what you are having investigated. You are about spot on with your 70-80% logic. Note that SOC readings can bee wildly unreliable with the batteries. Go by the resting voltage. Mark
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Darek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 16 January 2024 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Darek Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 January 2024 at 07:43
	Thanks Mark, interesting.. 100% is between 13.6V and 14.4V. yes, I use resting voltage displayed on the DC Panel. The whole confusion is around the reading from MasterVolt CombiMaster (12V/3000VA-100A) which shows 100% SOC and in the same time I see 13.2V. I will do some tests in coming days together with the dealer. Mark, one more question regarding the table you posted... is it for any LiFePO4 battery brand? I'm wondering why Lifos (manufacturer) didn't include it in technical specs.
	Darek "Summertime" Hanse 460 #92



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