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Wayne's World
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Posted: 26 April 2013 at 11:55 |
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Leilani et al,
I regularly polish the 36 meter motor which
I look after. Over the last 5 years I have used various methods and products
and have now settled on a process which works well and keeps the vessel looking
sparkling and easy to clean. I have used a range of the 3M products and I find
them good to use although they can be expensive. But if you want to use a range
of products from one manufacturer then 3M have a full range for vessels in
various conditions and are available worldwide. The 3M websites have plenty of
additional information . If your vessel is in poor condition or has
heavy oxidization of the gelcoat I would suggest - 1. Wash with 3M Marine Boat Soap or any good
quality boat wash. 2. Use a cutting compound like 3M Marine Rubbing
Compound or similar. 3. Machine polish with 3M Finesse -It 11. 4. Hand apply a wax like 3M Marine Ultra Wax
or 3M Marine Liquid Wax. If your vessel is in reasonable condition
with light oxidization of the gelcoat I would suggest- 1. Wash with 3M Marine Boat Soap or any good
quality boat wash. 2. Machine polish with 3M Finesse -It 11. 3. Hand apply a wax like 3M Marine Ultra Wax
or 3M Marine Liquid Wax. If your vessel is in as new condition still with
good gloss retention I would suggest- 1. Wash with 3M Marine Boat Soap or any good
quality boat wash. 2. Hand apply a wax like 3M Marine Ultra Wax
or 3M Marine Liquid Wax. The "compound" is used to removed
oxidization and stains and removes gelcoat as it works. Compounds come in
various levels of abrasiveness - often referred to as 1. 2 or 3. 1 being the
less aggressive and 3 the most. The Finesse "polish" is a much finer
abrasive than a "compound" and includes a polish which remains on
surface to provide protection to the gelcoat and some gloss. The "Wax"
forms an additional protective film over the gelcoat and gives a high gloss. The Marine Liquid Wax is easier to use than
the Ultra Wax which is a thick paste. Here in the tropics with very strong sun I
would polish and wax twice a year. I think in less severe weather areas once per year would be
enough. To make the job as easy as possible you need
the right equipment - a large (200mm) variable speed electric polisher, I
prefer to used foam pads to apply compound or polish rather than lambs wool
pads. The lambs wool pads are preferred by professional but are more difficult
to use. I find the foam pads easier to use for us non "professionals".
The foam pads I use are about 125mm in diameter and about 50mm thick and screw onto the polisher. I use the
blue coloured pads. In Aust these pads are available in 4 different hardness
and each hardness is a different colour. The harder pads are more aggressive but
a bit harder to use. I find the blue pads are a good combination of being easy
to use and not too aggressive. You need plenty of clean towelling to clean off
the products. When it gets to applying the wax by hand I use 100mm diameter microfiber
polishing mitts. These cost about AUD$4 each but are much easier than using a
piece of cloth. You probably need scaffolding or trestles and a plank or a work platform
to be able to reach all the areas on the hull safely assuming you are polishing
whilst the boat is on the hard. Polishing the hull with the boat in the water is
more difficult and presents more problems. Not impossible just more difficult. At this point you need to assess if you should
spend your money on all the polishing equipment, supplies and scaffolding and
commit several days of your time to polish your hull or pay a tradesman to do the
work? I think to polish and wax a 35 ft hull which is in fair condition to
start with will take about 20- 25 hours of fairly hard work. If your boat is in
poor condition and with heavy oxidization I would think very carefully about
having tradesman do it this year and then
you could take over the polishing/waxing next year. To start the process = First rinse the hull with plenty of fresh
water then wash the vessel hull, or area you wish to polish, well with a specific
marine wash/soap. Next - use the electric variable speed
polisher to apply either a cutting compound or polish. I use a firm foam pad
(blue colour) which is moistened with water. Apply the product to the pad and
then spread it over the work area without starting the machine. If you just
turn the machine on a lot of the product will fly off. Leave the machine in
contact with the work area and then start the polisher and move it slowly over
the work area trying to cover the area evenly. The pad should remain flat on
the work surface. I have a small spray bottle with plain water in it which I
use to make sure the area I am working on does not dry out. If the product
dries out and you continue to polish it
can "burn" the surface. I set the polisher on speed 2 ( on a scale of
0=nil, 9 = scary fast). If the polisher is too fast the polish flys off and
makes a mess. If the polisher is on high speed it is also easy to damage the
surface. I rinse the compound or polish residue off with a damp cloth and then
hand buff with towelling once the remainder has dried. I make sure the foam
pads are washed out frequently - every 2 square meters of polishing, rinse out
the damp cloth several times for an area polished (about 1 square meter) and I
make sure the towelling does not get too much compound/polish build up. The
more product you can get off by rinsing the easier it will be to buff off remiander. Note - be very careful when applying the
compound or polish with the electric polisher as it can be easy to cut through
the gelcoat in areas where there are sharp edges. In smaller areas apply the compound
or polish by hand. Once compounding is finished ( if compounding was needed) use the same procedure to apply and remove the polish. After a large area or one side of the hull is finished
I then I apply the Wax by hand, buff by hand and then a final buff with a lambs
wool pad on the electric polisher set at speed 3. When hand applying the wax I use
the small microfiber round applicator pads. Again I change these pads over
after say 4 square meters of work. I find you need to make sure there is no
build up of polish residue or wax on the applicators or towelling as any buildup
makes it more difficult to remove the product off the boat. Because we have so
much polishing to do we buy large bags of old towels from a commercial laundry
for polishing. A bag costs about AUD$25 for the equivalent of about 30- 40 towels
and are often ex hospital or hotel towels. Once the towels become worn out from
the polishing they get used in the engine room and other cleaning and they then
get thrown out. We have about 20 of the microfiber applicators which we wash
out and dry for their next use. They last about 25-30 uses and washing cycles. After the polish/waxing process is complete regularly wash
the boat with a good quality marine wash or shampoo. Don't use aggressive
detergents like "truckwash" as they will remove the wax and damage
your gelcoat. Always start the washing with a good fresh water rinse to remove
salt and then shampoo the boat. There are a lot of " miracle one shot" products
around - you know the ones that promise to wash, polish and wax all in one easy
and fast process. I have used some of these products and have not found them to
be as good as the full, labour intensive separate wash, compound (if necessary)
, polish and wax. You may find variations to the above procedures are better
for you and your boat in your location
but start with this and see how you go. A well polished boat is a beautiful thing to behold and very
satisfying if it is a product of your own labour. Happy polishing. |
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CharlesP
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Posted: 26 April 2013 at 12:20 |
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Excellent Wayne. Thanks for all that information. I do my boat in a very similar way. Sometimes I have to use 2000 gauge wet and dry paper on bad scuffs. My machine polisher is the Makita 9227CB which is around £190 in UK.
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Wayne's World
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Posted: 26 April 2013 at 12:45 |
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Charles,
The use of wet&dry 2000 grit is a very effective way to prepare rough/damaged areas for final polishing but it can be a bit agressive in novice hands. But it does take a lot of elbow grease to do much damage with 2000 grit. Actually some of the cutting compounds rate themslves as 1500 grit so are very agressive especially on a high speed polisher. I have used a few different polishers and in the end bought a Ozito (Chinese I guess) which costs about AUD$80 - cheap as chips- has a 3 year replacement warranty and plenty of low rev power. I have used it for about 300 hours over 2 years. If I happen to drop it in the water or it completely fails for another AUD$80 I have new one. I looked at other brands at over AUD$500 but I don't think they would be any better for the use I put it to. Different if I was using it for 8 hour every day. Hopefully you are finished polishing for the season and can get out and use you boat.
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CharlesP
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Posted: 26 April 2013 at 14:23 |
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I have not found Ozito over here except for Strimmers. We finished polishing in a blizzard because we were launching the next day, which was a few days before Easter. Such very cold conditions for almost the whole of March are unheard of in the South of England. We refused to be beaten and ended up using a fan heater and blanket when applying epoxy primer and Coppercoat to a part of the keel.
Last year at the same period we were enjoying over 20 degrees C. Charles |
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Posted: 01 May 2013 at 05:59 |
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Hi Leilani, a good bet is that it is applied with a rag and a hand. You have 2 of them but sometimes they are occupied in your pockets.
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leilani
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Posted: 02 May 2013 at 04:32 |
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Thanks for all your feedback and comments, will attempt procedures soon. Yes Mr Stephen Dadour, my hands are always occupied in my pockets that's because every time l catch up with you l am buying you drinks. On the other hand your pockets are so deep that you can never reach your wallet?
LEILANI
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Posted: 21 May 2025 at 00:11 |
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Leilani,
Did you end up dealing with the faded grey strips on the hull. I tried cutting nd polishing. Worked well for the white bits. Did nothing for the grey. Also, where is that boat locker with the dancing girls...I keep on looking for it.
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