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Posted: 04 February 2011 at 05:21

Could you please advise type and size of furler forspinnaker in photos of hydra race Cheers

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Posted: 05 February 2011 at 14:17

Hi, It is Harken, but I am not very happy with it. In windy conditions it is a 3 person job to furl the gennaker.

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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 13:08

Hi,

I am considering about ordering a furler for asymetric spinakker(genakker).

Panos, you are not very happy with the Harken system,I also get some bad comments on the Karver KF 5 and Selden CX 40 system.

Have anyone experience with the FACNOR Furler Asym FX ? IMO it is the only one who first furling the center of the luff before start furling the whole genakker.Like I understand from the documentation I can bay the FX4500 for a Code 0 or staysail,and use the optional extra fitting with the central furling rope for use it for the asym. genakker, its that correct?

We are most of the time sailing with a small crew or solo ,so the most important issue is the easy handling, not to host the sail but get it down when the wind increases.

Edited by Wild - 06 February 2011 at 14:55

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Posted: 12 February 2011 at 06:50

Hi Panos Thanks for the info .Also Wet &Wild has the same issues as I do .. My wife and I sail our 531 [now 7 years old] only 2up racing and cruising ..Ihave been trying to sort out the best extra running/reaching headsail most easily handled in light to moderate wind strengths. I prefer a furler but the available space ahead of the jib furler is too small. A bowsprit may be the best option but I would like someone to have done it first...We would never give up the self tacker jib and after 7 years we still love the boat Cheers John

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Posted: 12 February 2011 at 19:16

Hi,

Our asymmetric spinnaker which we hoist from a sock proved to be much easier to handle shorthanded. With 3 persons we can even make jibes with the simrad pilot to steer and turn the boat, one person (me) taking care of the main sheet, one releasing and taking in the asym sheet while the third one runs the clew around the forestay. The more windy it is the easier it goes, up to 20 knots real. Handling the almost 300 sqm spi shorthanded makes our crew VERY PROUD.

What we must always observe is to douse the spi from the same side we hoisted it, else the sock gets tangled around the forestay Dead

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To be able to use the sock we made a lot of improvements to the original setup.

Edited by panos - 12 February 2011 at 19:23

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Posted: 19 March 2011 at 14:51

Great pictures of the boat!
This weekend i will rent one of this kind, and go to the mediteraneen.

Cheers!



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Ballistic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 11 May 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ballistic Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2011 at 05:21
	Could you please advise type and size of furler forspinnaker in photos of hydra race Cheers

panos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 02 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1939	Post Options Post Reply Quote panos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 February 2011 at 14:17
	Hi, It is Harken, but I am not very happy with it. In windy conditions it is a 3 person job to furl the gennaker.
	Panos Hanse 630e - selling her -

Wild Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vice Admiral Joined: 18 March 2010 Location: Turkey-Greece Status: Offline Points: 937	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wild Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 February 2011 at 13:08
	Hi, I am considering about ordering a furler for asymetric spinakker(genakker). Panos, you are not very happy with the Harken system,I also get some bad comments on the Karver KF 5 and Selden CX 40 system. Have anyone experience with the FACNOR Furler Asym FX ? IMO it is the only one who first furling the center of the luff before start furling the whole genakker.Like I understand from the documentation I can bay the FX4500 for a Code 0 or staysail,and use the optional extra fitting with the central furling rope for use it for the asym. genakker, its that correct? We are most of the time sailing with a small crew or solo ,so the most important issue is the easy handling, not to host the sail but get it down when the wind increases. Edited by Wild - 06 February 2011 at 14:55
	Wild and Wet Belgium 545e#268

Ballistic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 11 May 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ballistic Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 February 2011 at 06:50
	Hi Panos Thanks for the info .Also Wet &Wild has the same issues as I do .. My wife and I sail our 531 [now 7 years old] only 2up racing and cruising ..Ihave been trying to sort out the best extra running/reaching headsail most easily handled in light to moderate wind strengths. I prefer a furler but the available space ahead of the jib furler is too small. A bowsprit may be the best option but I would like someone to have done it first...We would never give up the self tacker jib and after 7 years we still love the boat Cheers John

panos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 02 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1939	Post Options Post Reply Quote panos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 February 2011 at 19:16
	Hi, Our asymmetric spinnaker which we hoist from a sock proved to be much easier to handle shorthanded. With 3 persons we can even make jibes with the simrad pilot to steer and turn the boat, one person (me) taking care of the main sheet, one releasing and taking in the asym sheet while the third one runs the clew around the forestay. The more windy it is the easier it goes, up to 20 knots real. Handling the almost 300 sqm spi shorthanded makes our crew VERY PROUD. What we must always observe is to douse the spi from the same side we hoisted it, else the sock gets tangled around the forestay. To be able to use the sock we made a lot of improvements to the original setup. Edited by panos - 12 February 2011 at 19:23
	Panos Hanse 630e - selling her -

ankino Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 19 March 2011 Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote ankino Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 March 2011 at 14:51
	Great pictures of the boat! This weekend i will rent one of this kind, and go to the mediteraneen. Cheers!