jib furler very very hard

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   I have the same problem on our 400 and have read the comments. You get a lot of friction caused by the sheet that twists between the block and the traveller.  I send someone at the mast to pull down the jib sheet, which releases the tension and to untwist the sheet at the block. I can then furl it manually. 
My explanation; the twist is created when winching the sheet around the drum. The turns on the sheet are transferred over it's length. Inverting the sheet or replacing it should postpone the effect, at least, I hope...

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Bruno Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 13 August 2014 Location: Bromont, Quebec Status: Offline Points: 112	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bruno Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 September 2015 at 15:54
	I have the same problem on our 400 and have read the comments. You get a lot of friction caused by the sheet that twists between the block and the traveller. I send someone at the mast to pull down the jib sheet, which releases the tension and to untwist the sheet at the block. I can then furl it manually. My explanation; the twist is created when winching the sheet around the drum. The turns on the sheet are transferred over it's length. Inverting the sheet or replacing it should postpone the effect, at least, I hope...
	Bruno Hanse 400, 2010 Hull 660, Canadian flag sailing Lake Champlain, VT USA

iemand Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 13 February 2004 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 1099	Post Options Post Reply Quote iemand Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 September 2015 at 16:17
	I also suggest the block on the selftacker with a fixed swifel (not turning) and a tapered dyneema sheet with 6mm pure Dyneema on 8-10mm Sheet behind the mast. That makes a big difference as well.
	Hanse 312 MJ 2004 - Hanse 370e MJ 2007

Lippe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 05 September 2009 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 356	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lippe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 September 2015 at 20:25
	Iemand. Can you explain more the " with 6mm pure Dyneema on 8-10mm Sheet behind the mast. " Edited by Lippe - 22 September 2015 at 20:39

StavrosNZ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 24 October 2014 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 581	Post Options Post Reply Quote StavrosNZ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 February 2017 at 21:41
	Old thread revived, further to the changes i made already noted in this thread i have also replaced the through factory through-deck block which had 40mm sheave with Selden version that has 57mm sheave. Means furling line has larger diameter sheave to bend around, this and the other upgrades means Selden TD furler can easily be furled by hand. uploads/4780/Through_deck_block.pdf uploads/4780/Through_deck_block_2.pdf uploads/4780/Anchor_locker_furler_block.pdf uploads/4780/Anchor_locker_furler_block.pdf
	Stephen 2010 H400 #691, Auckland, New Zealand

harveymolly Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 22 February 2017 Location: Almerimar Status: Offline Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote harveymolly Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2017 at 06:03
	I have read through your posts with interest and intend to make the changes which you suggested. Its been a few years since you last posted on this topic, I wondered if there were any updates. We have had to have 2 repairs to our jib which could have been avoided if the jib was not such a pain to furl.

Bruno Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 13 August 2014 Location: Bromont, Quebec Status: Offline Points: 112	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bruno Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2017 at 15:31
	Last summer I furled the jib from the through-deck point much more easily, concluding that I had a lot of resistance between the through-deck and cockpit. I intend to replace the leading stanchion blocks by bearing ones to reduce friction.
	Bruno Hanse 400, 2010 Hull 660, Canadian flag sailing Lake Champlain, VT USA

StavrosNZ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 24 October 2014 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 581	Post Options Post Reply Quote StavrosNZ Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2019 at 06:36
	Old thread updated, last and final amendment to get my Selden through deck furler smooth and furling by hand, align the under deck block perfectly with through deck block by using dyneema loops to get the block dead centre. These are Ronstan 6mm x 120mm loops.
	Stephen 2010 H400 #691, Auckland, New Zealand



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