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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote H8jer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2020 at 21:48
From www.vivaenergi.dk where I bought the thee Lifepo4 has this info( google translated):


The next days we will cruise and I will monitor the voltage. During the short stress test, there where no voltage above 13.9v but I would expect this to rise with full batteries.
If I turn off the Sterling the voltage will drop.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote H8jer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 July 2020 at 18:08
Originally posted by Forth2 Forth2 wrote:

14.4 V as float is way too high.

Yes. At 14.4v there is still flowing power to the batteries.


After 3 hours of motoring I will say that the Sterling Pro Alt C (AtoB) has passed.
We began with 95+% batteries and sailing 3 knots in the harbour gave 50+ amps in almost idle rpm. This was at 13.9v.

At some point the AtoB sensed the voltage and Current and changed from boost 14.6v to 14.4v for 30 min(Absobtion mode). After the 30min it changed to 13.8v ( float mode).
This is not described in the manual, but what happend in real life.
The first minutes after the AtoB changed to float the batteries were discharging. Then they settled down.
During the 30 min Absortion mode the charge amps to each battery was 1-3 amps.
In the picture the charge amps are 2.1A. But in float mode sometimes the batteries discharge and sometimes recieve charge.


Another Issue it the Mains Charger, Sterling Pro Ultra 60 Amps with has 2 Lifepo4 programmes. The Preset2 is 14.6v/14.4v which I tried but this is like Forth2' comment too much.
So I used Preset1 which is 13.8v Boost and 13.8v Float.
If you think 13.8v as boost is too low then think again. When harbouring and after waiting 30 minutes the mains charger pumped out 32 amps at 13.8v.

So I think now the settings are as they should be and that I dont need to attend to anything else the either start the engine or plug in the mains power.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fendant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2020 at 07:33
I am also using preset 1 on my Sterling charger. 
After a night connected to shore power with fridge as the main consumer on, the display on the remote shows 14.4 V and "ready".


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Sounds a bit like the Sterling might still be in preset2?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fendant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2020 at 10:15
Afaik it is not:




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote H8jer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2020 at 10:27
looks like there are 2 versions.
This is how ours look: (photo from sterling-power):


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jeb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2020 at 17:38
Hi, attached link is the complete shopping list to upgrade your Hitachi 80A alternator to a Valero 120A incl serpentine belt, new pulleys etc for a Yanmar 3JH4E. I vreated it by comparing the 3jh4E with 3JH5 partslist. Cost is 668€ incl VAT.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote H8jer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 July 2020 at 11:12
Originally posted by jeb jeb wrote:

I vreated it by comparing the 3jh4E with 3JH5 partslist.


Good work Jesper!
This upgrade will be considered if my new setup is not good enough.

My local Engine Repair guy have talked with Yanmar and they didn't have any 125A upgrade Kit. So like the path you and Forth2 follow/ed - it will be a DIY project.
Also the tiny Negative from the Alternator, is part of the Yanmar Electic Harness, so a true Genuine Kit would perhaps also include a new Harness and make this incredible expensive.



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We have now been using the new 300ah Lifepo4 Batteries for a week+.

They are a huge improvement over the old (3×75ah) lead batteries.

We were 2 dags/nights (total 40 hours) at an anchorage. When we left there was still 76% / 230AH left in the batteries.
We have a 100watt foldable Solarpanel we place ontop of the lazyjack that providede upto 50watt during a few hours it was sunny.

The new 80 amp Alternator and the Sterling Alternator to Battery Charger AB12130 ensured that the batteries were fully charged after 1.5 hours. The charge rate to the Lifepo4 batteries alone was 50-60 amps.

But this comes with the expence of heat. 60+ amps is 3 or more horsepower and the Alternator becomes really hot. Via the remote I can manually power off the AB12130 and the charges drops from 50-60 amps down to only 10 amps with is what you get without the Sterling in the loop.

I wrote a mail to Sterling-power because I expirences that the AB12130 sometimes when powered off displays "No Communication please wait" then it turns on by itselves.
There is also a need for better cooling of the engine room. Right now there is only an blower to extract hot air, but no fresh air inlet. Sterling recommads installing a fresh air inlet blowing to the backside of the Alternator where it sucks in air.
Below are pictures showing the lower part of the engine is 100 degrees Celsius and the V-belt (xpa982 Gates QuadPower 4) is 85 degress and the metal casing of the Alternator is a staggering 120 degrees.









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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Arken2020 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 July 2020 at 17:53
hi
Yes I have done this 4 times, in 4 sailboats with very good luck
Firstly, since you choose to adress a forum for answers, you are likely to get several answers   
There are many ways to go and mixing products and suppliers can get you all confused - and things arent working according to plan
What kind of boat and engine?
What is your normal consumption/ 1 hour/ 24 hr?
Do you have other means of charging, w mills/ solar cells?
Do you have an infinite budget? :-)
I can tell what I have done and how I went about getting there  
Im very pleased  there is never any going back!

B rgds  Christoffer/ Arken/ Norway



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