new hanse 630e#035

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Hi Panos

About the Sails.  

I have a sail locker in the front of my 540 and there is heaps of room for sail
storage.  I am unsure if you have chosen this configuration in your 630,
but to me it makes lots of sense.

The storm jib fits on its furler in a relative small bag and is no problem to
store.  Having the storm jib on a furler
I think makes things much easier when the wind gets up.  I can have the
storm jib up well before needed and just unfurl it from the cockpit when needed
or put it away if needed.  Having to hank on a sail in strong winds in a
confused sea when I could be unfurling my storm jib from the cockpit seems to
be not as good an option.

My storm jib attaches to a 2 to 1 halyard / forestay in Dyneema or something
like that (i.e. not a wire forestay).  I can use the Halyard as a forestay
when I do not have my storm jib up and it is easy to store and apparently as strong
as or stronger than a wire inner forestay.

I do not understand why you would need to kept the furling storm jib or
Gennaker hoisted while sailing.  Often I
will but I do not see the need to.

I have not got my Gennaker yet so I can not comment on storage size.  I
see having a gennaker on a furler as a big advantage.  During a days
sailing I could use it many times and furl it in between very simply from the cockpit. 
Having it in a snuffer that requires more work means it is less likely to be
used as often.

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Richard108 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 02 October 2006 Status: Offline Points: 263	Post Options Post Reply Quote Richard108 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 April 2008 at 10:19
	Hi Panos About the Sails. I have a sail locker in the front of my 540 and there is heaps of room for sail storage. I am unsure if you have chosen this configuration in your 630, but to me it makes lots of sense. The storm jib fits on its furler in a relative small bag and is no problem to store. Having the storm jib on a furler I think makes things much easier when the wind gets up. I can have the storm jib up well before needed and just unfurl it from the cockpit when needed or put it away if needed. Having to hank on a sail in strong winds in a confused sea when I could be unfurling my storm jib from the cockpit seems to be not as good an option. My storm jib attaches to a 2 to 1 halyard / forestay in Dyneema or something like that (i.e. not a wire forestay). I can use the Halyard as a forestay when I do not have my storm jib up and it is easy to store and apparently as strong as or stronger than a wire inner forestay. I do not understand why you would need to kept the furling storm jib or Gennaker hoisted while sailing. Often I will but I do not see the need to. I have not got my Gennaker yet so I can not comment on storage size. I see having a gennaker on a furler as a big advantage. During a days sailing I could use it many times and furl it in between very simply from the cockpit. Having it in a snuffer that requires more work means it is less likely to be used as often.
	Regards Richard ("Moksha" 540 #115 delivered Sept 2007) Pittwater, Sydney, Australia

panos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 02 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1939	Post Options Post Reply Quote panos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 April 2008 at 23:23
	Hi all, Today I finalized the details of our 630e #035 with Hanse. This is what I ordered from Hanse. colored hull 630e : color = STARS AND STRIPES (light blue) waterline : white deck :white upholstery : leather porto-fino cream keel=performance options : 1)gelcoat colored hull as above 2)two electric secondary winches AEST 54 (instead of manual ones) 3)two carbon steering wheels 4)retractable mooring winch 24V/1000w 5)Maxpower VIP 150 Bow Thruster 24V 6)electrical deck wash pump in anchor locker 7)two Tecma electric toilets and holding tanks in guest cabins (is standard in owners cabin) 8)Air conditioning 230V , 38000 BTU 9)Indel inox fridge in cockpit 10) 3000w inverter 11)sound insulated PANDA 10.2 KW generator 12)Electric-hydraulic gangway retractable in transom 13)DESSALATOR watermaker Duo (24V/230V) 60lt/hour 14)SIMRAD electronic pack II (GB40 +autopilot+ VHF + Radar + instruments) 15)AIS SIMRAD transponder class B 16)Remote commander for SIMRAD 17)combi-antenna (G3 phone+ VHF + TV + radio) 18)flat screen TV LCD retractable in saloon 19)dishwasher 20)washing machine in hostess cabin 21)layout : A4,B4,C3L,B2 as individual Hanse selections 22)CARBON MAST AND BOOM 23)Inner forestay with tensioner 24)Gennaker pack 25)Inox anchor chain instead of standard one 26)outside lights package (underwater + deck floor + mast) 27)GORI 3 blade prop A long list but I still have work to do. I intend to order from other supplier (Rados) following : a)a good stereo system b)fishfinder c)satellite TV antenna d)G3 - GSM antenna booster and INTERNET/mob. phone installation e)front looking mast-top fixed camera f)gas leak alarm/fire alarm/intruder alarm - Not to mention movable equipment : sails,safety,kitchen utemsils,bedsheets...... A full time job until takeover All help to select the items a to f) is highly appreciated since I have no experience. Never had them in a boat before. Edited by panos - 09 April 2008 at 23:27
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Clivian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 11 August 2004 Status: Offline Points: 264	Post Options Post Reply Quote Clivian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 April 2008 at 23:35
	Just all sounds wonderful - and a dishwasher!!! Sue

panos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 02 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1939	Post Options Post Reply Quote panos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2008 at 00:17
	Hi, What you mean? Of course a dishwasher . I am the one that does the dishes.
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Peter-Blake Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral of the Fleet Joined: 04 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 2471	Post Options Post Reply Quote Peter-Blake Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2008 at 05:40
	I would recommend some smoke detector too, beside the gasdetector.
	Blake 370

tbjerrehuus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Joined: 19 October 2006 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 33	Post Options Post Reply Quote tbjerrehuus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2008 at 07:26
	Dear Panos I only have too comments for you. Like you I chose two Tecma electric toilets in the guest cabins. I connected the toilets to the fresh water tank because sea water in the toilets often makes an unpleasant smell in the summer time. The problem is that the electric toilets use a lot of fresh water (and electricity). Today I would install a sea cock, so I could choose between fresh and salt water for my toilets. In the cabins Hanse Yard has installed Halogen spots 28V (2007). These spots are almost impossible to get. I have found a German web shop that can get them in 3 weeks. If Hanse still uses 28 V Halogen, make them change to 24V or 12 V. Congratulations with your new boat. Torben Bjerrehuus Diva, Hanse 540 Copenhagen Edited by tbjerrehuus - 10 April 2008 at 10:27
	Torben Bjerrehuus

Abstinenz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List myHanse Moderator - Denmark Joined: 27 May 2006 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 563	Post Options Post Reply Quote Abstinenz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2008 at 10:03
	Hi Panos. Congrats to your new tallship. We would delete item no. 18 (flatscreen TV) and install a beer draughtmaster system instead. TV makes people passive and depressive but the draugthmaster makes people talk and feel alive /Steen & Anne
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panos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 02 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1939	Post Options Post Reply Quote panos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2008 at 10:37
	Thank U all for your suggestions. The TV is only for rainy days. The beer will be stored in the cockpit fridge, which was a last minute addition. A fire and a smoke detector will be installed, but I have not decided yet where (and how many are needed). Galley,engine room and possibly cabins. I have to check the toilet flushing circuit. Thanks, I didn't even think of fresh water. Unfortunately I will have 4 holding tanks (including the head in the utility room). I am also checking for a system which automatically sends to preprogrammed mobile phones SMS's with the boat condition. (position,batteries,alarms etc). I heard of this system but never heard of someone using it or having it in his/hers boat. This system could use the permanent G3/GSM mobile phone. Any ideas ? I am also looking for a tent or smoothing similar for the cockpit that I can remove easily. The bimini top I don't like at all- all those ugly inox pipes. But I like also the shadow . Edited by panos - 10 April 2008 at 10:40
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Richard108 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 02 October 2006 Status: Offline Points: 263	Post Options Post Reply Quote Richard108 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 April 2008 at 15:11
	Hi Panos A few comments 1. Check the size of your holding tanks for the toilets. In the 540 they are small and soon fill up. I have added another holding tank and had he other tanks run into this larger one if needed. It is easy to fill up one of the holding tanks and have the other ones still mostly empty. 2. It worried me that the electrical deck wash pump in anchor locker could be left on and fill the boat with water. The on switch for the deck wash in the 540 is in the saloon and you do not necessarily hear the pump running or worse still you might be leaving the boat. I have added a timer cur out switch so the pump funs for a limited amount of time until I push the button again in the anchor locker. It is also easy to run the pump accidently with the tap closed and end up burning out the pump. 3. I have only cursed my electric winches as they give my crew no feel for the tension that is on the line. It is easy to over tension and start to break things. Next time I will be having all manual (large) winches. 4. If it was me, I would prefer all my winches to be larger the 54's if I as getting a 630, otherwise some of the crew at least will struggle with the winches if manually used. 5. You probably need more power outlets. I added an extra one to the saloon so that I had one on each side of the saloon and one more in the main cabin. 6. Ericsson makes what they call a wireless voice and data gateway (W25) that allows use of a G3 phone and internet connection. This gateway allows using your G3 phone and data connection at the same time and also allows you to use a wireless internet connection with one or more laptops. Works well for me. http://www.ericssonw25.com/index.html 7. The booster for the mast head aerial for my G3 phone and data connection was the CYFREC-819. This booster gives me a connection when I would otherwise not had one. http://www.quantel.co.nz/new.html 8. From what I could figure the interphase SE 200 is the best forward facing sonar (fish finder). Have not used it much yet http://www.interphase-tech.com/SE-200.htm
	Regards Richard ("Moksha" 540 #115 delivered Sept 2007) Pittwater, Sydney, Australia

panos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admiral Joined: 02 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1939	Post Options Post Reply Quote panos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 April 2008 at 17:53
	Hello Richard, I will certainly add a timer to the deck pump. Are you sure there is no deck switch to control this pump, which by mistake is always on? The primary winches in the 630 are size 65 ! I sailed a lot on an Amel super Maramu which has electric winches. We didn't have any problems of any sort with them. I wish we had a captive winch to control the main though. I checked the Ericsson W25 and this is what we need. I heard about the Interphase but since I had a bad experience with another FLS I think I will wait until I read some reports from people that used them for many years.
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