reefing lines

I am not sure that you have it set up correctly. Apologies if you have.
I am too computer illiterate to post neat drawings on the forum as I cannot work out how to do them with windows 10. So I did a sketch by hand & photographed it. Not sure if it will work. Once again apologies if I do a bad job. i went to the boat today & took a picture of a mast aligner & can post that if you do not know what I mean.
It occurs to me that some may get tangles because they release all the halyard at once. The process is to release the mainsheet & the vang so that the boom can ride up. Head to wind. Then release only small amounts of halyard at a time whilst winding in the reefing line. I take the halyard one turn round the winch & only part let off the jammer so that as I winch with the other hand I let off small amounts of halyard.
I know many mark the halyard but I found it better to put a piece of tape on the mast at the point where the lowest batten will end up so as it comes down I can guess where to stop letting off halyard. Also I do not have to look down at the halyard for a small mark but can be looking up at the mast at what I am doing. It helps not to have halyards with lots of stretch as well. The sail needs to stop just before the reef block on the luff touches the mast aligner, which is the important point rather than where the end of the halyard is on the cabin winch.
Winch as much clew as possible in before the very last bit of halyard then finally tighten down the halyard for a nice set
If you do not have a mast aligner then you can pop rivet a hoop onto the mast with a stainless steel ring hung through it. Then run the reefing line through that. Do not try to run through an ordinary loop as it will create too much friction
My current main has a ball bearing 65mm block on the luff but when my new main arrives (in the next few weeks - yippee !!) I will probably just fit friction rings




Edited by samuel - 27 December 2016 at 17:42

You have lost the 2:1 advantage of the loops at the luff & leech by & created friction inside the boom with the pulleys that provide no mechanical advantage whatsoever. Your reef lines are also a little oversize.
Change to the sketch i have shown - which is the setup supplied by Hanse- & you should have no further problems

samuel wrote: Hi samuel,  mine is just like yours..what kind of lines (mm) do you have? I am not sure that you have it set up correctly. Apologies if you have. I am too computer illiterate to post neat drawings on the forum as I cannot work out how to do them with windows 10. So I did a sketch by hand & photographed it. Not sure if it will work. Once again apologies if I do a bad job. i went to the boat today & took a picture of a mast aligner & can post that if you do not know what I mean. It occurs to me that some may get tangles because they release all the halyard at once. The process is to release the mainsheet & the vang so that the boom can ride up. Head to wind. Then release only small amounts of halyard at a time whilst winding in the reefing line. I take the halyard one turn round the winch & only part let off the jammer so that as I winch with the other hand I let off small amounts of halyard. I know many mark the halyard but I found it better to put a piece of tape on the mast at the point where the lowest batten will end up so as it comes down I can guess where to stop letting off halyard. Also I do not have to look down at the halyard for a small mark but can be looking up at the mast at what I am doing. It helps not to have halyards with lots of stretch as well. The sail needs to stop just before the reef block on the luff touches the mast aligner, which is the important point rather than where the end of the halyard is on the cabin winch. Winch as much clew as possible in before the very last bit of halyard then finally tighten down the halyard for a nice set If you do not have a mast aligner then you can pop rivet a hoop onto the mast with a stainless steel ring hung through it. Then run the reefing line through that. Do not try to run through an ordinary loop as it will create too much friction My current main has a ball bearing 65mm block on the luff but when my new main arrives (in the next few weeks - yippee !!) I will probably just fit friction rings

Sorry Martin,
I have been too ill for the last days to go outside let along out on the river.
I am getting better and will do the photos soon.
I am particularly frustrated because I have a new main sheet traveller system all ready to install and I just cant get out there.
We had planned a Christmas eve, and a christmas day lunch on Bloto, but had to give up the plan due to the gales and my health.
Perry

Mj
Your sketch is the very good Selden singleline reefing systeem with a car running back- and frontwards inside the Selden boom.
The only thing wrong is the leechline have to go tru the cringle and back down ,tied on the boom by a knot or on a slider in the rail on the underside of the boom. So Martin have it right.
If this give to much friction you can ask your sailmaker to at a smal reefingblock on the leech of your sail and lead the reefline tru this block. This is the way they do it on bigger boats(sails)